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Dion Jordan cut

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Itsdahumidity, Mar 31, 2017.

  1. Itsdahumidity

    Itsdahumidity X gonna take it from ya

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  2. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya!
     
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  3. firedan

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    Well that never quite worked out now did it?
    Thank the lord those days are gone.
     
  4. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    I remember being so excited when we drafted him, he was THE player I wanted. It really sucks how he basically pissed away his career the way he has.
     
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  5. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    He was my dream pick that I did not think Miami could get.

    Sometimes I am wrong. Very, very wrong. Wow, was I wrong.
     
  6. TheOne

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    Wanted us to take Ziggy Ansah that year.
     
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  7. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    As of his release the entire 2013 draft class is no longer on the team. Those of you that think the draft is the cure need to reevaluate.
     
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  8. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    It's not the draft, it's who's drafting.
     
  9. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    I honestly did not like that we traded up for him like we did, that was just stupid. His physical gifts were impressive but that was about all that was impressive about him. His game film was nothing special. His pass rush consisted of straight up speed rushing and not much else. Definitely not worth 3rd overall pick let alone trading up and giving up multiple draft picks to get him.

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  10. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Between 2005 and 2011 twenty teams had the same or less FA's than the Pats. During this span, the Pats had a winning % of .800. Out of those 20 teams with less FA's than the Pats, 10 failed to win at least half of their games.

    The Steelers, who had less FA's than the Pats, were the next highest team in the NFL with a .688 winning %. The Jets and Bills each had fewer FA's than the Pats and had a .513 and .375 winning %, respectively.

    The Lions had the greatest number of FA's and had a .313 winning % and the Saints had the second highest number of FA's and had a .650 winning %.

    The Packers had the least number of FA's and had a .613 and the Colts had the 2nd fewest and had a .638 winning %.

    Dolphins were around the average in terms of number of FA's and had a .400 winning %.
     
  11. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    The idea of not signing free agents and building through the draft seems blown out of proportion to me. Belichik and the pats are a perfect example. They have used the draft but also have been aggressive in free agency as well and always seem to make it work. The most important thing is having a good coaching staff and people who actually know how to evaluate talent and make it work in their system.

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  12. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Exactly. Ideally, building through the draft is best because it's the cheapest. However, no one is going to make the right picks enough to solely do that.
     
  13. KeyFin

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    It will be interesting to see if anyone picks up Jordan and gives him a 2nd chance (well, really a 5th chance but who's counting?). I think he can still be a great player in the league IF he can get his head on straight. I can't name sources but a little birdie told me there may be some mental evaluations involved with the decision to move on.

    Still, I wish the guy the best of luck finding a new career or resurrecting himself in the NFL. We make it out like he was a massive bust but I really didn't see that- the team told him to bulk up and his personal trainer convinced him to take a shortcut. Then he was bummed out and smoked a few joints- almost everyone these days has done that (including most NFL players). Just bad luck and even worse timing...it just wasn't meant to be. The talent was once there though; that's undeniable.
     
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  14. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    The guy definitely has mental problems. However, even if he got his head on straight I don't think he has anything left. There have been a few people to come out and say that he's slow, weak, and just not good anymore.
     
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  15. Deus ex dolphin

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    Such a waste of resources, spending that first and second rounder for Jordan. Funny, that at the time it was a GREAT deal trading up that far for just a second rounder. I was hoping against hope that he might turn it around, but no surprise he has been cut.

    The only way this could get worse? If he got picked up by another team and had some success on the field. Not really worried about that though, as he seems to lack any real desire to succeed.
     
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  16. Dorfdad

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    Soon Jordan comeback player of the year 2017! How are we going to feel when he's a patriot or jet?
     
  17. KeyFin

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    Well, he spent months in an elite training facility on the West Coast just to get reinstated- so the desire part isn't true. But if he's lost speed (which athletes naturally do) then he may have peaked early and wasted his prime on the sidelines. That sucks but it is what it is...just a whole lot of wasted potential.
     
  18. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    That's my biggest fear- welcome to Pats Nation! The home of Hogan, Welker and too many other discarded Dolphins to fully list.
     
  19. Mike8272

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    Looking back at the 2013 draft class, especially the top ten, it really has turned out to be a pretty poor class:

    - busts: Luke Joeckel, Jordan, Barkeviois Mingo, Jonathan Cooper, Dee Milliner
    - debatable: Tavon Austin, Chance Warmac
    - solid: Eric Fischer, Lane Johnson, Ezekiel Ansah

    If you expand it, there was a better success rate in the bottom half of the first round than the top half. So not really the best top end draft in recent memory, but did we mess up trading up for him. Even at the time I wasn't sure it was a good idea, I preferred to stay at 12, or used our 3rd pick on Johnson. But hey ho, that's history and so is Jordan. Que Jordan breaking out elsewhere...
     
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  20. dirtylandry

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    Pats will take a chance


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  21. dirtylandry

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    Freeing up more money. Something is up


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  22. Vertical Limit

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    All hail Fireland
     
  23. Vertical Limit

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    Yea, something is up.. its called his weight...

    When I think about the decision to cut Dion Jordan, I think of those guys waiting in the parking lot of team facilities with a sign begging for a try out.. and then i think yea, cut this loser. He had the opportunity of the lifetime to try to be successful in this league. You can respect the guy had he made it as a star or had he been average. But the guy literally didnt even try.. he wasted our resources and our time, and thank god for Gase we werent setback for too long because of it.
     
  24. dirtylandry

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    I meant for a signing. Misi took a paycut too


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  25. Pauly

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    Basically my thoughts after watching his college highlight reel were that he was an athlete masquerading as a football player. He just didn't have technique or show any diagnostic ability.

    On top of that Ireland drafted him to be a 3-4 edge rushing OLB when our coaches were running a 4-3. So when he shows up in the lockerroom he wasn't exactly greeted with enthusiasm and open arms since he wasn't big enough and lacked the pass rush moves to be a 4-3 DE and wasn't smart/skilled enough to be a 4-3 OLB.

    So we drafted the wrong guy for the wrong reason and gave him to the wrong coaches and then wondered why he became a bust.
     
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  26. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    I didn't like the pick at all, at the time. Wanted an offensive lineman.
     
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  27. brandon27

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    What a waste of talent and physical ability.
     
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    We got stuck with Tyson Clabo.
     
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  30. dolphin25

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    I hated the trade and hated the pick. I thought we were trading up at the time to get Johnson, that I could have lived with.
     
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    I have a Jersey that is now available. Cheap.
     
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  32. Tin Indian

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    Never wanted him, Never understood why we traded up to get him, Never understood why they didn't use him as an OLB.

    Good Riddance.
     
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  33. MonstBlitz

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    Another one of Ireland's smelly old floaters finally flushed.
     
  34. Not So Fast

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    Man what could have been. Should have stayed pat that year and drafted Kyle Long at 12.
     
  35. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    I didn't like the pick at all at the time, but I was willing to support it. I thought that Lane Johnson without a doubt would be the pick. WTF?
     
  36. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    Go to a local sewing supply store, get a stich remover. Turn the jersey inside out and cut the stitches the nameplate is sewn on with. Pull the loser nameplate off. Soak the remaining glue in 50/50 fabric softener overnight then wash. You'll have a blank (??? What was his number??? 95???) Jersey. I did that with a Culpooper jersey I got clearance from the website for $10 after that mess. 8 is my number. And 13 but I didn't pull the name off the 13 ;)
     
  37. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    Point being its a crap shoot and trading picks for veteran players isn't much worse a way to build a team. Balance of course is key but saying the draft is the only way to build a good consistent team has not been proven.
     
  38. MikeHoncho

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    Well, I think John Madden would agree that you need players to have a team. 100% of the time.
     
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  39. hitman8

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    I agree 100%, with the amount of draft busts and idiot GMs there is no way you can depend mostly on the draft.

    Just look at how a guy like cam wake can go undrafted while dion jordan gets drafted 3rd overall. That tells you all you need to know about NFL talent evaluators. They are generally clueless.

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  40. Finster

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    Well I never did say building through the draft is the only way, all I'm saying is that's how you build a sustainable good team, trading picks for players shouldn't be done often, it tremendously offsets your ability to acquire superstars.

    Lets look at our drafted SS's of recent memory, and I'm gonna be a bit loose with the term SS, Jayjay is only one season but, Miller, Matthews, Landry, Pouncey, Long, Jones, Clay, Davis, Soliai, OV, Madison, JT, Zach and Surtain.

    Unfortunately that about covers it for quite some time, 3 of those are 1sts, both OL guys with injury problems and Davis, the rest range from the 2nd to 7th.

    There's been more and more talk about higher picks year after year it seems, but the truth is, the league is built on 2nd through 5th round draft picks, there's only one 1st round every year, but there are 6 other rounds every year, so obviously the league is built with guys outside the 1st.

    What this means? The teams with the best talent evaluators build the best teams, the Steelers have 1 top 10 pick since 1990, and it's not even Ben, and they don't sign big name FAs, period. The Pats since BB, big name FA's coming in is rare, getting picks for losing talent? They always seem to have extra picks.

    Good teams draft well, that's never going to change under the current format, where every player in the league comes through the draft, lol, but if your guys can't draft for ****, then yeah, you might as well trade your picks for players.
     
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