DO we Cheer JT? I say yes!

Yeah well I happen to think it was classless of JT to want out of Miami after the 1-15 season, and for him to sign with the Jets as well.

I could care less about an agent. Agents suck imo, and i happen to know one...

 

Let me ask you this, do you personally believe that if Jason wouldn't of signed with the jets, he would be forced to retire?

 

I believe that if he didn't sign with the Jets it was much more likely that he would have been forced to retire than that he would have played again. And if some team did come calling after an injury that he would have gone to a team where he had very few opportunities. If he wanted a chance to actually play any kind of significant role this season, he had to sign somewhere by training camp.

 

If you work with somebody for 12+ years then it's very likely that you form a relationship. By all accounts JT's agent is also a friend. It would have been far more classless to screw over his friend.

 

The agent works for JT. Whatever JT wants to do, the agent should be alright with.

It seems to me that JT had little interest in playing on a team where he wouldn't rack up sacks. IMO he went to the Jets because he knew that was his best opportunity to pile up stats.

 

Cheer? A Jets' player?

Yeah...I'm cheering for him to break his *** in training camp and never contribute a thing to that team.

I wish nothing but bad things for him professionally as long as he is under contract to them.

 

Not nearly as classless as screwing over the friend who paid him. It's a buisiness right? Well, your best friend in buisiness is the one who pays you.

 

I wouldn't call Parcells and JT friends. And I disagree with your equations. Whether somebody pays you has no bearing on whether or not they're your friend. Personally, I value friendship higher than that.

 

His agent is a bushiness associate just like the Dolphins. You're using the word friend way to loosely and I'm just going with it.
The Miami Dolphins made him one of the highest paid defensive lineman in the NFL more than once. He owes them a heck of a lot more than some negotiator imo

If his agent is his friend then the Dolphins should be his best friend...

 

No, I'm saying he's not just a business associate, he is also a friend.

 

Yeah, I understand that, and I'm saying no to that. You're not supposed to mix buisiness with pleasure.

 

Then we disagree. If somebody told me to cut a long time friend out of the deal, I would say no and tell them I'm going to handle this just like every other contract I've signed.

 

That's why you don't mix friends with business.

I could be wrong (And I apologize if I miss read something you posted) but didn't you say JT didn't know about the second offer until it was pulled? Should he not know the moment an offer comes in?

Taylor to me showed his true colors (It's all about him), and that's fine, but to me its all about the Dolphins, I have more respect for what Zach did, it's that simple.

Yes Taylor should be in our ring of honor someday, but now he is the enemy.

 

I cheer for no man in a jest uniform.

 

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I just don't believe that a guy who just had 7 sacks while out of position, a skilled veteran, a guy who has been there and done that wouldn't sign unless somebody got hurt in training camp.
NJ brings up a good point. If the offer was "take it or leave it" as you state it was (out of curiosity, where did you read that?) why didn't the agent dial Jason's number the second the offer was "officially" extended. Did he make the decision on Jason's behalf? As a friend or as a agent? At least that what it sounds like to me, based on what you have stated.
My point is simple - if Jason disliked the Jets as much as he said he did, and was as loyal as he said he was, he would of found a way to work out a contract with a team that wasn't the New York Jets.

 

BTW, how am I supposed to cheer when there is vomit in my mouth.

 

That was my understanding. The agent responded to the Dolphin's offer either with some questions or some suggested change (that part was unclear). The agent seemed to think it was pretty standard whatever it was he did. He left a message for JT saying that he received an offer and that he had responded in the usual fashion. The Dolphins apparently said it was a take it or leave it thing so they pulled it the moment the agent had responded with anything other than yes.

I guess I wonder why you would decided that what you disagreed with was his true colors. Why wouldn't the previous year when he took $6 million less (it might have been $7 million) to play in Miami be his true colors?

 

I think that was the issue. The Jets were willing to work with JT, while the Dolphins weren't. Basically, when JT didn't respond with a yes to the post-it note Parcells took some offense and made it this take it or leave it thing. In other words Parcells behaved much like Parcells has behaved several times in the past. That's why I have no problem believing that it went don exactly like that.

 

Unclear is something that's been very consistant when it comes to JT leaving.........both times. He, IN MY OPINION, has lied both times, constantly, and very consistantly, to save face.

 

All JT said was that his agent said he responded in the standard manner, that he thought it was a standard negotiation. I said it was unclear b/c "standard" could mean different things. What is clear is that you're going to say he lied regardless.

 

Well, I did make that clear. Just like you've chosen to believe what they've stated, I've chosen not to. BUT I have chosen to because he did lie.

It's not just being biased or hurt either. I'm not big on being a fan of players over teams, but JT is one of my favorite players in this era.

I listened to his talk after he signed with the Jets. His words at his press conference were if you wanted me, you never, ever reached out to me so I'm doing whats best for my family. Then after Miami let out a statement saying they made two offers to him, he then let the cat out of the bag as to how they did it. My conclusion is he, imo, lied or held back all the truths, more than once and that right there is one example. It's a clear lie and has nothing to do with regardless.

 

I don't see the lie there. I wouldn't characterize those "offers" as reaching out. Marik mentioned asked in another post why was JT able able to work out a deal with the Jets and not Miami and I think it's pretty clear that the Jets reached out and Miami didn't. All Miami did was say take it or leave it in a couple of unreasonable ways. That's not reaching out.

 

What do you expect the Dolphins to do as far as reaching out? Taylor lied to the team more than once and let his personal feelings get in the way too. He wanted to be worshipped like he was some type of god by the FO and they weren't going to do that and Taylor got his poor little feelings hurt. It is like the so called non acknowledgement by Parcells back in 2008 when Taylor got his feelings hurt because he was treated just like every other football player. I think the Dolphins got sick and tired of his *** and didn't care anymore. His play on the field is not near as big as his ego and now he is old. To say the Dolphins were unreasonable with Taylor is a joke. The guy is a grown baby who wants all the attention he can get. We are still building our football team. No time for has beens with elevated sense of self importance.

 

It's all good. I've been very clear as to saying NO, I won't cheer him in another uniform. Boo him is more like it because he is playing on my most hated team.

 

Well, he admitted they offered him something after he said if Miami wanted me, why didn't they call me, or contact me. Then he switched his stance after Ireland said they did.......twice.

If you don't consider that a lie then I don't know what to tell you.

 

Hell NO, he's a ficking Jet.

Never ever cheer for a dumb arse Jet

 

Guys, he is gone it doesnt matter anymore, training camp is Friday!!!!

 

Worshipped like some god? He was treated poorly. Parcells has done this at every stop. He treats some player worse than others (so not like every other player) in order to make some point. That player usually ends up being gone regardless of whether it was deserved. The only reason JT played under Parcells at all is b/c he took millions less to play here. If he had been treated like every other player then this would not have been n issue.