"were"?

Uhm, yeah, what we've come to expect

 

Become a Jaguars fan if we lose on Sunday :lol:

 

Jets actually have a chance to reel off a few wins now if you can believe that.

Tennesse, Buffalo and the Chargers.

We are actually better off finishing last at this point. We already play at TB as part of the NFC South rotation, but if we finish last as opposed to 3rd we'd play at Jacksonville rather than at Tennessee. That would mean we'd play in the State of Florida 10 out of 16 games.

Every little bit helps.

 

Sad but true

What worries me is Tannehill's stankass play.

Cripes going forward with him reminds me of JVille buying into Gabbert...this kinda sucks

 

We're not worse than the Jets or Bills.

Those teams are basically finished, and in a point where realistically they need to rebuild their team, fire their coaches, and find a new quarterback.

 

So I take it you are the kind of people that paid close attention to this offseason and Hard Knocks and screamed "SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" ?

talk about unreal expectations.

 

Well, if the fail continues, we'll have a shot to trade up to get Manziel hopefully.

 

Tannehill has got quite a bit better, if you don't see some blatant improvements, then you are just hating just to hate. I've also been very happy with Rjones and Dthomas this season as well if you wanna talk about improvement. But there have been shines of improvement from several players, really. Our defense has been somewhere between "sicknasty" and "not bad" all season aside from a game or 2, other teams/ NFL analyzers / writers/ commentators all know it. with a few tweaks our D is scary as hell. secondary and YPG is the most glaring need. As it is they are already containing some of the elitest of teams down to well below their average making all those games WINNABLE, when we expected those teams to put 30-40+ on us with ease. Our offense is what is killing the team. Revamp the offense with weapons and its on. People are finding it really hard to understand that Raw-er Rookie QB + TWO AVERAGE WRs and the most inconsistent squishy O-line = Low scoring games/ Losses.

FFS we are trying to run a WC no-huddle offense with a fat spread with nothing but Bess and Hartline. This season had 2 wins written all over it. You can't polish a turd.

 

Did you watch Gabbert play?

I'm not suggesting Tanny is the second coming but he is far better than Gabbert ever was.

 

I don't want to get into Ireland, AT ALL. Theres enough of that everywhere else. He SEEMS To know what the holes are (hard not to) I don't care if its him or someone else, I just hope they have a good draft / offseason.

But like I was saying, Our D has been GOOD all season. Although secondary is banged up and was never any good to begin with. The D needs so many LESS tweaks than the offense does. I'd drop EVERYONE in the back except Rjones if it was up to me. I don't know how I feel about Smith. This and some LB depth and movements on the line, you're gravy.

Outside of QB, RB, and Center The Offense literally needs almost EVERY position replaced/upgraded/smacked in the head. Other teams work AROUND their QB, which is what we need to spend this offseason doing. Surrounding RTH with a supporting cast that works for him and knows how to tie their own shoes without assistance.

This season should scream one thing and one thing only:

You can't MAKE PLAYS without PLAY MAKERS.

 

This is an annual topic from you Dorfdad, yes?

 

Eek, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but there is a good chance we DON'T pick a receiver in the first round. Quite franky, the value for the receiver class doesn't start til the early second round this year. In the first round there is Keenan Allen out of Cal and Justin Hunter out of Tennessee. Justin Hunter is one of those big sprinting types who has good long speed, but as far as YAC goes, he might not be a fit for this system (then again the way that Hartline gets YAC you'll have to wonder how much this REALLY comes into play). Keenan Allen is awesome at YAC, he practically transforms into a running back when he receives the ball, although I heard he is a little bit raw (in his routes) and he has been suffering from injury this year. Maybe someone can confirm this for me.

However, offensive line prospects in the first are aplenty. Not only the two bookend tackles coming out of TAMU but also some of those big boys that play on that Alabama interior. All considered first-round prospects. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if we picked up a pass-rusher in the first round either considering no one seems to be consistent across from Wake this year.

In the second round Terrance Williams will be available, Robert Woods (not a big fan), and the two guys I'm huge fans of; Deandre Hopkins and Cordarelle Patterson. Deandre Hopkins is the type of guy that can both get deep on a route but also go the distance if you were to throw him a quick dump-off. Patterson is so shifty.. he might not be the greatest receiver but just get him the ball and let him run with it. He cuts like nobody's business. Williams has been having a stellar year, he's tall and seems pretty fast but I just don't know fast he really is, and won't til he runs at the combine. But you don't rack up 1700 yards (albeit in the worst defensive conference in all of NCAA football) if you're a scrub. Also, keep an eye out for Stedman Bailey in the second or third round too out of West Virginia.

 

It's an annual topic for all of us, that's the point.

 

Both of those team's GMs made sure their new rookie QB had a better receiving corps to throw to, than our GM assembled for Tannehill.

 

having a worse record doesn't make us worse

 

He won't be in the draft before 2015.

 

It's like Jeff Ireland is the exact mirror image opposite of Matt Millen when it comes to position-priorities. lol.

 

Which is just about the time that, if the fail continues, we'll be getting a new front office and looking for a new QB.

 

Totally wrong that people don;t get it, DC.

Everyone gets it. And it is why they are saying why, after four years is this team this riddled with talent holes? There is a guy whose job is to specifically not allow that to happen.

Three guesses.

 

THAT'S your solution?

Doctor: You have a condition MR.--
DC: NO! Don't tell me. I don;t care what's causing this.
Doctor: But then how will you know what to do to get better?
DC:I'll just hope it happens.

Yeaaaah. The franchise will fix itself. The players will pick themselves, but be great picks this time.

Good non-plan.

Dude, you may not like looking at the truth, because it's an unpleasant one, that the guy responsible for the talent on the roster has failed to assemble a good enough roster, but the only way to get better is to actually figure out the cause and then DO something about it.

 

Couldbn't have anything to do with the Dolphins sucking annually, I suppose, and not fixing the problem?

 

Agree. It's not an awesome year for drafting premier receiver prospects.

 

I don't agree with this at all. I don't think building a team is some type of linear process. Its a lot more like starting a band than building a structure IMO.

Thats not to say anyone has or hasn't performed well. But I think suggesting that the problem can simply be identified isn't the right approach IMO.

 

I've been posting in the Tannehill thread because some of the hate for the kid is mindboggling, and that was the basis for most of what i'm saying, so that was my fault. Everyone doesn't get that. Really they don't. But thats for the other thread.

In our quest to find a QB, finding one only revealed so many holes that were not so glaring otherwise. I'm not arguing that the lack of talent and our mediocrity isn't primarily the fault of the front office and GM, it is. What i'm saying is posts like this make it seem like the expectations were so unrealistically high for the season to some posters here, especially with knowing what you just said, and seeing how our offseason went. Some of the rants seem so unwarranted at this point. We already have more wins than I thought we would, (by double.) When they announced RTH the starter I was already MAJORLY looking forward to the 2014 offseason/season and shrugging this one off unfortunately, but thats how rebuilding works. I'm excited about the future. We have a very stout Defense to tweak, and a QB to build A-R-O-U-N-D. But I feel like if i set my expectations low, I won't be too disappointed.... which is what is happening here, Lol

 

It is all up to Ross at this time. He stated before the year that he expected the Dolphins to have a winning season and to make the playoffs. The best this team can do now is 8-8 and that is not a winning season. While they are still alive in the playoff race, it is highly unlikely they will make the playoffs this season.

So now it is up to Ross to make the changes necessary to get this team beyond mediocre. Parcells left the organization two and a half years ago and that didn't change anything. Sparano was fired during the 2011 season and that didn't change anything. Philbin was hired, along with a new coaching staff. Same old results.

The problem with this team is the severe lack of play makers on both the offense and the defense. One person has been here for the last five years and has been instrumental in drafting the talent and signing the free agents, Jeff Ireland. He has been a failure at selecting talent which can get this team beyond mediocre. Ross needs to put his big boy pants on and finally fire the person who is most responsible for the overall lack of talent on the roster.

Perhaps when he sees less than 50,000 fans in the stadium this weekend, he will finally see what needs to be done.

 

I'm going to the Jax game... good seats too, If that game isn't a Win, even my optimistic self is going to rage and pop a blood vessel or two.

 

Well, it's a bit of the being unlucky that they were so lucky, I think.

Most of us came in expecting 3-7 wins somewhere. No one really hoped for the playoffs.


You're right that it was Tannehill looking good that made uss start to hope and believe. That's the thing, it's hard to go from thinking we have no chance, to realizing we do, to totally not having a chance again.

It's been an emotional experience for a group of fans whose threshold for tolerating disapoointment has been exhausted by years of disappointment. A very raw-feeling fanbase.

So, yes, Tannehill ends up punished, somewhat, for giving us too much too early, in ways. lol. We would all rather have seen him struggle early, and look better NOW, because that's progress.

Instead, that Zona game gave us all hope he was here, he was ready... and going back to him struggling, then playing well, then being limited, then being okay... it's been hard to flip the switch backwards.

I do think he needs better receivers and a second year before we know what we really have. That said, ALL that matters is if he pans out so we will be hyper-observant of any of his tendencies. It this habit a concern? Is that one a good sign? I mean, so much rides on this kids shoulders and, by the way, no one ever talks about what a great job he has done with THAT burden!

 

And that's why it's the Dolphins own damned fault for AVOIDING the word rebuilding.. because they WANT people to think there is a chance this year, and that's stupid because it sets the fan base up to feel horribly disappointed again. And then mad, and hurt, and fed up and all the stuff you DON'T want your customers feeling.

This organization would have been better off saying, yes it's a rebuild, and we have exciting new players, new coaches, and new systems, come be a part of something great as it's born.

They take a hit in early attendance, but that wiould improve as the product improved... as the team grew.

Instead, they wanted to let fans think we had a chances, so attendance was better right at the start of the season.. and as soon as the 'rebuild secret' began to show people got pissed, disappointeted and I'll bet attendance has dropped. It sure looks like it has.

Stupid expectation management. Another example, io, of bad mamabegemnt of the organization and dumb ownership.

 

No argument from me, friend. I agree with you. It should have been called a rebuild and rightfully such from the get go, to temper expectations. I'm just saying some of the deep enders here seems like their high expectations go WAY beyond whether or not it was considered a rebuild or CHAMPIONSHIP TIME. its like Go undefeated or any decent player we have is a bust. No inbetween.

I repeat though, I agree with what your saying, and you can only change the players and coaches so much before you realize its time for a front office / culture sweep. Unfortunately the time for that is sooner rather than later and getting pushed back more and more

 

Tannehill has put us all through an emotional roller coaster, I think its fair to say. Especially after the Zona game. But i've been craving that QB spot finally filled once and for all so bad, that i'm pretty happy either way I look at it. He really seems to have what it takes to be the one, and I haven't ever said that about any phins QB of my lifetime, really. Other teams have it right by surrounding their QBs with needs and positions that compliment them. Now that we have the QB and its exposed the glaring needs, For the love of god we have so much money and picks this offseason, just make it right FFS.

 

God willing we are not picking top-10 by then.

 

Hmmmmmm, I don't think he can come out for 2 more years

 

I don't think Ireland can hear you.

 

Well then that must mean someone hasn't done his job, right ?

 

Can you imagine the zoo this place will be if he takes a OLineman in the 1st ? OMG......:lol: