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Dolphins Acquire Tyreek Hill!

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Finatik, Mar 23, 2022.

  1. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    The owner hires a GM who hires coaches and they pick the talent. Just sayin.
     
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  2. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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  3. KeyFin

    KeyFin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Never watched this guy before, but he had me laughing so I decided to share. Fun unbiased opinion anyway.

     
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  4. Phil Hutchings

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    That was very enjoyable.

    The guy is very knowledgeable and very funny.

    Thanks for posting.
     
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  5. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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  6. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    This is inaccurate imo..
     
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  7. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member Club Member

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  8. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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  9. Fishhead

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    His speed never ceases to amaze. He waited until they were almost on him, then…. gone
     
  10. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I mean, I hope he can outrun middle/high schoolers?
     
  11. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    It was a fun video, that’s all. There are plenty of clips of him running past and away from world class athletes. Of course they are not the same opponents, but with his speed, it really doesn’t matter. That was the point
     
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  12. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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  13. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The receiver position is currently undergoing a revolution in the NFL. Teams are finding them anywhere and everywhere. They’re plentiful in the draft, but veterans are getting huge money. For some teams, the right call has become to trade a receiver who wants huge money to another team that will give it to him.

    The Chiefs have landed right in the middle of this narrative, with Tyreek Hill traded to the Dolphins for five draft picks. Chiefs G.M. Brett Veach recently visited with #PFTPM to discuss these various different approaches to finding, and keeping (or not keeping) receivers.

    “It’s certainly a crazy dynamic,” Veach said. “I think we got certainly tipped off early on in free agency. When you start to see the receiver deals come in, I think it’s one of those situations where it’s probably a case-by-case basis. I’m sure it has a lot to do with where teams are and the stress to win right now and do you have a rookie under contract, or do you have a veteran?

    “Someone asked me earlier about where we stand on that and I think it’s truly just the year-by-year basis. If your cap is in a situation where you’re good now and you have some years that fall where you’re in a position to be aggressive, I think teams will be aggressive. This year was just a different year for us in regards to where we were with our quarterback and some other players on the team. Now, this may come full circle where in a couple years from now we’re going out there and we’re one of those teams signing that big free-agent wide receiver. We like where the draft was and we thought this was a point in time during this run here with Pat [Mahomes] that we can take a step back and get the resources and add receivers, and we did that with [JuJu Smith-Schuster] and [Marquez Valdes-Scantling] and certainly Skyy Moore there in the draft, but also use some of those resources to add to the defense. We certainly wanted to get younger and deeper there, too. This was a scenario we took a step back and we thought it’d be best for the team and we went ahead and made that trade and I think both teams will benefit from it.”

    Was it easier to move on from Hill because he had been with the team for a first contract and most of a second contract?

    “Yes and no,” Veach said. “I think on one end . . . it was a third contract not a second contract. Father Time is undefeated in this league, unless you’re Tom Brady. . . . To that degree that was a part of our in-depth conversations about the landscape of the NFL, and then more specifically where we were as an organization. Yes in that regard, but also it is tough [when] on the flipside you have accomplished so much. He’s still playing at a high level. The rapport that he has with Travis [Kelce] and with Pat is special and is unique. I think it goes both ways. I think it probably helped push the ball over the goal line, so to speak, to do this. Trades like that are never easy, and they’re always emotional. I know it’s a business and everyone knows this from people that are GMs and coaches and certainly players. I mean, at the end of the day it’s a business, but it doesn’t mean that you are totally void of emotional attachments and he was certainly a player we had one with. It was tough, but I think it was certainly the best thing for our organization.”

    With Hill on the team (and Mahomes throwing the ball), defenses had to defend every blade of grass on the field. Will that still be the case post-Hill?

    “I think that the cool thing about what we have here is when you have a coach like Andy Reid and an offensive coordinator like Eric Bieniemy and Pat Mahomes,” Veach said. “I think there’s many ways to score points and many ways to move the football. I think you’ve seen Coach [Reid] do it over the years with different types of skillsets and different types of quarterbacks. He’s had an advantage because no quarterback he’s ever had is quite as gifted as Pat. But sporadically throughout the last four, five, six years, we’ve had many games without Tyreek and many games without Travis. Now you could easily argue that it’s a small sample size and it’s only a few games and what have you. We still love the talent on this team. We have guys that can run in Mecole Hardman and MVS. We’re going to add a rookie here in Skyy Moore. We have some size with Travis and with JuJu. I think on top of that, we also have a great offensive line. I think there’ll be many ways to score points and I think Coach will never be short of creativity. I think our game plan will be much like it was and has been every year. That’s just find ways to get these guys in positions to win. Now listen, with Tyreek it was a little easier because we’d just tell him to run. That’s the way of winning. With these guys we have here, they may not be as fast, but we have a ton of talent.”

    Indeed they do. But that have consciously parted ways with a guy who has a ton of talent. He will not be easy to replace.
     
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  14. OwesOwn614

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    That's a good read. The current situation of spiking salaries for WRs is unsustainable because most teams will never be able to spend that loot on two guys and there's also a lot of players on the cusp of being top-10 caliber. It's easier to find quality wideouts than QBs, so smart organizations are going to keep an eye on whether it's worth it to pay or let them go.

    The market's bound to dry up and eventually, a really good receiver's going to be allowed to walk and find out nobody's left to give him that much cash. Especially if the free agent receivers don't lead to team success.

    The fact that great receivers are available in most drafts is also going to contribute to the market's decline in the next couple of seasons. If I can get a first and a second-round pick while paying similar talent $20 million less, I'm going to do it. Miami's going to have a big decision in three years when it comes time to figure out Waddle's extension. There's no way we're going to put $60 million per year into the pockets of two guys in the same position group.
     
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  15. plc001

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    If Waddle is the player we expect him to be, he'll be wanting to get paid in 1 or 2 years.
     
  16. KeyFin

    KeyFin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Well, to counter that, it may make sense to have Tyreek taking half those catches away from him. I think they'll both have good numbers but Waddle won't dominate like he did in year one. Maybe that's enough to keep him from wanting $20M a year or something crazy.
     
  17. Serpico Jones

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    Waddle seems like he’s going to be a great player. Pay the man.
     
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  18. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Waddle will be due about the time Hill is expiring. Works out. :up:
     
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  19. Wilkimania

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    If everything has worked out then we'll be trying to figure out how to pay Tua, Phillips, Holland and Waddle within a couple years of each other. I'm sure the cap guys can't wait to work out that one.
     
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