Dolphins at Bills

"danmarino wrote:

The Bills have been giving up about 17 ppg. The Dolphins put up 27. Of course it’s the offense that needs work.

These clowns just have no ability to admit they are wrong about Tua.

Tua today:

25/28 for 231 yards, 2 TDs and no INTs.

In Buffalo. He's good enough. I do agree it would be great if we had someone better than Grier, but Tua is good enough.

I thought the defense did well on that last drive except for poyers stupid penalty.. 61 yard field goal, with the way bass has been struggling this season i was expecting us to get in position for Sanders long attempt and then bass makes it easy, couldve been good for 70 lol thats how it is.. o well, onto the next game..

Achane Tua Tyreek Waddle jonnu smith and that offensive line all played a good game today. Mostert did as well but that fumble may have lost us the game

"hitman8 wrote:

Offense is good, not great, and Tua cannot be depended on.

Our problems are a lot bigger than just needing a better defense.

Like I said up front: we need to fix the defense and get a good backup QB. That's what you called a bad assessment. It's not. It's right on.

"cbrad wrote:

Well.. disappointing on one hand, but on the other hand not so much.

Tua and the offense played VERY well against the Bills in Buffalo. That's two games in a row we lost because of the defense. We don't need a total rebuild, we need to fix the defense — and get a good backup QB.

No cap space to add to the defense or for a good backup QB. The window to win for this team is now closed for this season and beyond. If you want to keep building around a fragile Tua, is it realistic to expect a different result?

"Deus ex dolphin wrote:

No cap space to add to the defense or for a good backup QB. The window to win for this team is now closed for this season and beyond. If you want to keep building around a fragile Tua, is it realistic to expect a different result?

Get the right DC and it's definitely realistic to expect a better result.

"Deus ex dolphin wrote:

No cap space to add to the defense or for a good backup QB. The window to win for this team is now closed for this season and beyond. If you want to keep building around a fragile Tua, is it realistic to expect a different result?

Not true at all… there will be plenty of cap.

"danmarino wrote:

The Bills have been giving up about 17 ppg. The Dolphins put up 27. Of course it’s the offense that needs work.

These clowns just have no ability to admit they are wrong about Tua.

Dan this offense is supposed to be a powerhouse. Great, we scored 27. 10 in the first half, right? I mean, is that what you expect from THIS offense? This isn't Tannehill and Hartline/Bess. My issue with Tua is I don't think he's physically dependable, and I think the offense tends to disappear when they need to make plays. The drive to take the lead today was great, I'm not trying to throw shade there. But they have got to start games better.

Maybe you don't, but it often seems that you feel that there are no fair criticisms of Tua, and honestly I think that drives some of the responses you get.

"resnor wrote:

Dan this offense is supposed to be a powerhouse. Great, we scored 27. 10 in the first half, right? I mean, is that what you expect from THIS offense? This isn't Tannehill and Hartline/Bess. My issue with Tua is I don't think he's physically dependable, and I think the offense tends to disappear when they need to make plays. The drive to take the lead today was great, I'm not trying to throw shade there. But they have got to start games better.

Maybe you don't, but it often seems that you feel that there are no fair criticisms of Tua, and honestly I think that drives some of the responses you get.

Context.
They played against the #5 defense. Not many offenses put up 27 on the Bills.

The play calling was a thing of beauty. The QB, RB’s (minus Mosterts fumble), OL, and receivers all played really well against a fantastic defense.

"resnor wrote:

Dan this offense is supposed to be a powerhouse. Great, we scored 27. 10 in the first half, right? I mean, is that what you expect from THIS offense? This isn't Tannehill and Hartline/Bess. My issue with Tua is I don't think he's physically dependable, and I think the offense tends to disappear when they need to make plays. The drive to take the lead today was great, I'm not trying to throw shade there. But they have got to start games better.

Maybe you don't, but it often seems that you feel that there are no fair criticisms of Tua, and honestly I think that drives some of the responses you get.

The Bills only put up 10 points in the first half against the 16th ranked defense. Think about that.

"danmarino wrote:

Context.
They played against the #5 defense. Not many, if any (maybe KC), put up 27 on the Bills.

The play calling was a thing of beauty. The QB, RB’s (minus Mosterts fumble), OL, and receivers all played really well against a fantastic defense.

Agreed but for what things are atm, we needed better games from the O in the last 2 games to win games because of our current status of the D. This season shows Grier has to go at the minimum, don’t know if it will happen though.

"danmarino wrote:

Season is officially over.

There’s really nothing wrong with the offense. Injuries most definitely hurt the defense, but even then they just aren’t very good.

Saying that, to lose on a 61 yard FG, it’s hard to place blame on any one group. Poyer

Poyer really hurt us.

Smith and Poyer helped lose the last two games. Who signed/drafted Smith and Poyer?

Chris Grier. Bauck steps with Grier. He botched the rebuild even though he had more picks and resources to work with than probably any other GM.

"hitman8 wrote:

Smith and Poyer helped lose the last two games. Who signed/drafted Smith and Poyer?

Chris Grier. Bauck steps with Grier. He botched the rebuild even though he had more picks and resources to work with than probably any other GM.

I think we all agree on Grier. No need to keep beating that drum. Problem is, realistically he's not getting canned.

"cbrad wrote:

Like I said up front: we need to fix the defense and get a good backup QB. That's what you called a bad assessment. It's not. It's right on.

The problem with your assessment is it makes it seem like we are just a couple players away from being real super bowl contenders, and keeps Grier in town.

We are not, and Grier needs to be fired, the sooner the better. I've been saying it for years now. We are not winning anything significant with Grier at the helm.

"hitman8 wrote:

The problem with your assessment is it makes it seem like we are just a couple players away from being real super bowl contenders, and keeps Grier in town.

We are not, and Grier needs to be fired, the sooner the better. I've been saying it for years now. We are not winning anything significant with Grier at the helm.

I'm just saying what's wrong with the team, not how likely it is what's wrong will get fixed. Tua isn't the problem. Much of the offense isn't either. It's defense (including DC), backup QB, and yes.. to make you happy.. it all leads back to Grier. But I'll emphasize.. the problem isn't Tua.

"cbrad wrote:

I'm just saying what's wrong with the team, not how likely it is what's wrong will get fixed. Tua isn't the problem. Much of the offense isn't either. It's defense (including DC), backup QB, and yes.. to make you happy.. it all leads back to Grier. But I'll emphasize.. the problem isn't Tua.

It’s not McD either… he’s been calling some great games.

Regardless what we all think of Grier, Ross loves him and he isn't going anywhere. No matter whatever excuses Grier comes up with Ross will believe them as Ross believes in Grier.

"danmarino wrote:

It’s not McD either… he’s been calling some great games.

I'm still high on McD, but he needs to improve as a HC. There have been lots of bad calls by him in previous games. Also, getting the right DC isn't just on Grier, that's on McD too (HC has a lot of input on the coordinators they work with). So I like McD because of what he's proven he can do with Tua + Hill and co., but he needs to get better. Teams adjust, and you're seeing them take away what worked so well last year. Anyway, today the offense was really good.

"Onehondo wrote:

Regardless what we all think of Grier, Ross loves him and he isn't going anywhere. No matter whatever excuses Grier comes up with Ross will believe them as Ross believes in Grier.

Does anyone have the inside scoop on why Ross likes Grier so much? I never heard a convincing argument.

They had a very nice safe strategy on offense. Defense played well enough. A lot went right and they still lost.

Keep tanking and draft high.

"cbrad wrote:

I'm still high on McD, but he needs to improve as a HC. There have been lots of bad calls by him in previous games. Also, getting the right DC isn't just on Grier, that's on McD too (HC has a lot of input on the coordinators they work with). So I like McD because of what he's proven he can do with Tua + Hill and co., but he needs to get better. Teams adjust, and you're seeing them take away what worked so well last year. Anyway, today the offense was really good.

I agree that McD has made mistakes. But we have to remember he’s halfway through his 3rd season and it seems he’s learning and learning fast.

"StaleTacos wrote:

They had a very nice safe strategy on offense. Defense played well enough. A lot went right and they still lost.

Keep tanking and draft high.

“Safe”… lol… nice backhanded compliment.

"danmarino wrote:

“Safe”… lol… nice backhanded compliment.

Tua can't throw deep. Tua throws deep. Teams take it away. Tua can't adjust. Tua adjusts. Very safe playing.

"danmarino wrote:

Not true at all… there will be plenty of cap.

I'm no cap expert, just looked at overthecap dot com and it seems Miami has 38 players under contract with about $4 million in cap space for 2025.

You can play with the cap numbers a lot, so space can be created and money pushed out -but you have to mortgage some of your future to do it. Plus, you have to pay beyond top money for the free agent players you want as you compete with teams with LOTS of cap money.

Drafting well is still the best and only real way to build a contending team. Not really a Grier thing though....

Tua was outstanding today!

He played solid but, he flubbed another shotgun snap and took a sack.