Dolphins at Bills

Da Fins posted this in the Club game thread. I agree with the tweeter, favorite highlight from the game. Shows why the offense is so much better with Tua. That glance right to move the LB out of the throwing lane, while the LG gets totally smoked, and Tua throws a 25 yard hand off.

 

It’s funny that the trolls are still moving the goalposts regarding Tua.

What’s not funny is that the trolls are still allowed to post here.

I do like that it seems more and more people are getting fed up with the trolls. Even TDK, who has “yelled” at me to “stop it” is starting to see the light and respond in kind.


The board would be better off without:

Etrius
Hitman
StaleTacos

I’d say pump, but I think he’s a Dolphins fan but also a stroke victim. He has an excuse to be that dull.

 

I'm dull.You accused me of blaming the offence for the Bills.
Say it!I was wrong and apologize.

 

And if u keep chasing people of this site there will be nobody left for u to argue with.

 

... Sorry to get you all worked up. LOL... It is a stat like any other. The distance the pass travels in the air... not the yards per completion or yards after the catch. Someone else felt the need to look it up and post it here... So we are talking about it.... And now all of a sudden you have sand in your ***. With 10 of his passes to the running backs ... Tua was dinking and dunking for most of the game... Do we need to pass the hat around to get you some summer's eve?

I know you saw that also...

Hell even that pass to Smith was a little 2 or 3 yard shovel...

Tua was not throwing the ball down the field.

Game manager.

 

If you're going to say something say the whole truth.

Tua is TIED with mega super star Patrick Mahomes for the lowest air yards. Notables on the bottom of the list are Burrow at 26, Jared Goff at 29, Mayfield at 32.

Lions have the #1 ranked offense in the NFL, Bucs are #3, and Bengals are 7th. Someone should really tell these teams they don't have elite offenses.

 

This is just another symptom of the disease that is Grier.... Overpay for expensive veterans from other teams in trade... then severely overpay them with new contracts...

So we have no draft picks
And we are in cap hell.

Oh and we get to mostly suck year in and year out...

Bravo.

 

Does this mean these QB's have limitations too? They're near the bottom of the list this year too.

 

The Chiefs offense is ranked 11th at the moment. Mahomes is also the GOAT and can do anything on the field.

Lions run a rushing offense. They aren't built for passing. The Dolphins created a passing offense and spent many assets there. They went from being one of the highest air yards per attempt team to the lowest. You want to become the Lions? I'm down, but you are going to need to re-tool.

A yard is a big difference. The difference between the QB ranked 26th and 12th is one yard.

 

Some of the greatest QBs in history are often called game managers lol. Tom Brady anyone?

What matters is how much you increase the team's chances of winning. Tua played great in Buffalo. There's no criticizing his play in that game by saying he didn't throw the ball down the field much. Who cares? He took what the defense gave him.

 

Because they lost and scored only 13 points in 3 quarters?

 

They lost because of the defense. The only real critique of the offense is Mostert's fumble. You put up 27 points on offense you are not the problem. And the game is 4 quarters. Doesn't matter what you do in 3.

 

You keep saying that, but sometimes you get into shootouts with other strong offensive clubs. They lost two games in a row with 27 points. It wasn't enough.

 

It wasn't enough obviously. So if you want to say 5% of the loss is on the offense I'm with you. But the lions share of the blame is on the defense, and I mean like 95% or so.

btw.. the Buffalo game for me is different from the game prior. In the previous game the offense had a late opportunity to add points and didn't. I said back then offense might be 20% responsible for the loss because of that. But the Buffalo game? Really can't blame them (except a tiny amount if you wish).

 

The defense is completely gutted. Expectations and talent are relevant.

The offense is healthy and most of the money and assets are on that side of the ball. They aren't carrying the defense like they should. It shouldn't be an equal thing because they don't have equal assets.

 

You haven’t. I’m just stirring the pot of the malcontents. Apparently there are some here that don't realize football consists of offense AND defense.

 

They've underperformed over the season, but not the last 2 games. If they can put up 27 ppg consistently they'd be #6 in points scored, not just last year but this year after half a season. That's good enough. It really comes down to how they perform the rest of the season.

 

Any good GM could of determined how big of a step Poter lost in the evaluation process

Well respected clip member D late also confirms in the td run by Josh Allen it was liter who did not try to hit Allen and pulled up

 

It’s what needed to happen and what he needed to show

 

Tua has to cover for the defense now is where we're at.

 

If Tua had thrown into coverage and left guys underneath that were open they’d criticize that, too.

They’re trolls. Period.

 

No dude. He brought up the actual passes because you guys were once again going on about rating.

Only you twist that into him complaining about Tua. He was simply countering a claim that was made.

 

Should a QB not throw to the open receivers? Passer rating is based on efficiency and mistakes. Tua was nearly perfect in both.


When Tua throws deep to Hill it’s all Hill, when Hill can’t get open and Tua throws to the underneath guys he’s not good enough. This line of thinking is asinine.

 

Not calling me out at all... I was the one stating how many throws to running backs... Someone else chimed in with the stats for the ball being thrown in the air.

There is nothing to be called out on.

This is just you wanting to ***** and argue...

Ergo... sand.

 

There is literally no talking with you or your multiple personalities. It's like arguing with a petulant child. You refuse to even try to understand any other ideologies but your own. There's a reason you're in the position that you've gotten yourself in.

 

Are you guys seeing these deep passes Mahomes is throwing? Oh wait…

 

Dink dunk game manager.

 

It’s almost like a good QB will take what the defense gives you.

It’s almost as if Tua has never been able to hit the deep ball. But when he did, the credit was given to all of his receivers. When those receivers are well covered, and he hits the open man on shorter passes, he’s a “game manager”. The absurdity is unbelievable.

 

No...

I was not the one that tried to change the argument...
Someone else was talking about and posting the stat line for distance in the air (on balls thrown on Sunday)... I made reference to it.

He instantly jumped on it confusing it with YPC trying to say I did not watch the game or some crap.
His reponse immediately was: It was not 4 yards Tua had 9 yards per catch... blah blah blah. I was not talking about yards per catch... He did not take the time to read my post and tried to start an argument on something I was not even talking about.

I never mentioned yards per catch, I never mentioned yards after the catch.

Both of those things were added by the other side for the purpose of arguing.

That is a fact.

Back peddle that.

 

Lol, hypocricy is unbelievable. Last I checked criticizing a team that consistently ****s the bed is allowed on a discussion forum. What is not allowed is throwing around personal insults at other posters which is what you do constantly.

If anyone should be banned you would be #1 on the list.

 

Again... You came in and tried to change the argument with yards per catch and other things... Things I was not talking about and were not part of the discussion.

Then after the fact you try to talk smack... Saying I backpedalled or what the heck ever....

Nope... I did not studder. I had a point to make, I stayed on topic from another poster... I made the point.

You and a couple of others got butt hurt and then all of this crap ensues.

You know you are allowed to simply read a post, without getting your feelings hurt. That way you do not have to jump in and try furiously to muddy up the water so you can feel better about this team, yourself, or life in general.

This insistance to ram full speed ahead against anyone that has anything negative to say about Tua and a football team that is 2-6... Is crazy... It is splitting this board in half.

I really am puzzled why people cannot talk about the failures of this team and the disappointment this franchise has caused... without being attacked?

If you do not agree with criticism of Tua... Why get upset and then post furiously going all in to try to diminish any and all posters that have a different view of things than you?

Last I checked this was supposed to be a message board.... And they work best when people feel free to express their thoughts and opinions.
I am seeing talk where posters are attacking each other and mentioning posters being banned...

There is absolutely no need for that sort of thing among fellow fans of this team that come to actually talk football.

Maybe you do not agree with me... or think I am strange... that is fine... People can be different and strange and have unusual or different views... That is why we all come here. If all we wanted was to have our thoughts and opinions reassured... we would just all sit alone and talk to ourselves.

I really am okay with you differing in opinion with me... This other crap is what puzzles me???

I was away from this place for a few years... I do not remember the place being this divided... I understand when I came back I was walking into something that has been going on for a while.

As to that, my question is Why?

 

Again, LITERALLY NO ONE is making the argument you claim is being made.

 

I fail to see how what any other QB on a different team is doing, is adding "context" to Tua and Miami.

Great, a number of QBs are struggling.

I don't want our QB struggling.

 

Try not attacking posters. It's funny, you accuse me of not being able to understand others, yet for like 3 years, you guys have continuously misrepresented my position.

And what the actual **** do you mean "multiple personalities"? I have one ****ing account on here, I've had it since the beginning.

GFY

 

The only person that misrepresents his own position is you. You have been called out on it numerous times, in BLACK AND WHITE, and still whine about it.

 

That’s not correct. Tua is being criticized for not throwing to receivers that were, and I quote, “blanketed”.

 

And Mahomes offense isn't elite this season, so yes, that's problematic. Nor was the Chiefs offense elite last season either when they were 14th/15th in points and last in IAY/PA. Also, it's nice to cherrypick, but there's many other teams that are passing the ball down the field and being successful offensively (eg Baltimore, Buffalo, SF, Washington, Minn, Cincy, ect...)

It's all moot though. The Dolphins built the offense around a passing attack with two of the top speedy best receivers in Hill and Waddle. Added OBJ. If the idea is to now change that to a hard nosed smash-mouth team like the Lions, I'm down, however you don't have the right personnel.