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  1. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    It was an „off“ day for him against us, still was enough….
     
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  2. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    No… if his 95 was “enough” then Tua’s 115 should have been more than enough, right?

    That’s not really a good way of looking at things. The Dolphins punted once. The offense did “enough” to win, right? So why didn’t they win?
     
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  3. cbrad

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    I think you have that backwards. Grier can get fired without McD or Tua getting fired, but if Tua fails it's almost certain McD will fail and get fired and Grier will also get fired at that point. I can't see Ross firing Grier as long as Tua does well. If Ross watched the game today, he probably thinks Grier found us a franchise QB.. which probably means we're stuck with Grier for many years.
     
  4. hitman8

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    Probably sex tapes. I'm thinking Grier is the PDiddy of the NFL can't figure any other good reason why Ross hasn't canned him yet.
     
  5. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    The thing I hate about losing to a division rival, particularly the Bills in a CLOSE game like this one was is all of the nonsensical gibberish that seems to follow.

    The Dolphins offense faced off against the number 5 defense in the league, allowing only 17.7 points per game. A STOUT and STINGY defense and the Dolphins put up 27 points. Offensively, we went toe to toe against their defense and won that battle, bottom line. We scored 10 more points than their defense allows.

    However, that stout and stingy defense was ranked 16th in rushing defense and McDaniel exploited that kink in the Bills’ defense. The Dolphins rushed the ball 29 times for 146 yards with 2 touchdowns. Tua was 25/28 for 231 yards, 2 TDs and 0 Ints. The Dolphins offense did what they were supposed to do, again. The moves the ball and scored 4 touchdowns.

    On the opposing side of the ball, the Dolphins defense collapsed yet again when they needed to step up to secure a chance for overtime, allowing the Bills to drive the ball with under 2 minutes to set up a 61 yard game winning FG.

    Someone needs to explain to me like I’m a 6 year how the defense failing to stop Buffalo from getting into position for their FG is somehow Tua’s fault?

    Tua’s fragile. Tua’s weak armed, Tua Tua Tua. We need to tank for a high draft pick. We need to sell sell sell before the trade deadline. Ya’ll are nuts!

    I was optimistic yet cautiously concerned about Anthony Weaver’s hire as DC. Having had come from Baltimore where defense is the main course served, I was hopeful to see what he could do with our defense but it’s apparent the entire philosophy of bend don’t break doesn’t work. It doesn’t help having Phillips and Chubb out with injuries but this is where Grier’s inability to bring in talent that can step up is also evident.

    But the defensive woes are overlooked and all fingers point to Tua. Makes perfect sense.

    Grier has got to go. I doubt it will happen. He like Rasputin, he just won’t die but until HE is gone and a better GM is brought in that recognizes and able to sign talent on the defensive side of the ball, the woes of the Dolphins will continue.
     
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  6. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    Because they had to do more because of our poor defense. What’s your point? We lost and even an off day from Allen was enough…
     
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  8. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    That sums it up pretty good, sadly!
     
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  9. pumpdogs

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    So who's fault is it Einstein?
    He is head coach!
     
  10. cbrad

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    Tua had a 124.9 rating. Only thing missing was the deep ball but that's because Buffalo made a serious effort to take that away. Really happy with the offense. In some previous games the defense would take away the deep ball and either our run game couldn't take advantage or we couldn't drive down the field with shorter passes. Today we did both successfully. I hope they can do that consistently. It will be hard to stop this offense if defenses can't beat us by simply taking away the deep ball.
     
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  11. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    So the defense sucking is why the offense isn’t good enough? Doesn’t make sense.

    Again, the offense put up 27 points. Against a team that average giving up about 17. How is that not good enough?

    How about, the DEFENSE wasn’t good enough?
     
  12. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    It’s your fault.
     
  13. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    “More” is not always enough. I pointed out after last week’s game that I remember a NFL quarterback who threw for 446 yards, 6 touchdowns and STILL lost.

    At what point does the focus on blame shift to the other side of the ball?
     
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  14. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Never as long as Tua is the QB. If Allen, who they love, was the Dolphins QB today, then it would be the defenses fault.
     
  15. Vertical Limit

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    Right now we are #9 in the draft order.. and i dont even know what direction we would go with that pick. To me even though the offensive line has been playibg well, you cant trust that it would rollover to next season, and you almost can expect it to collapse at some point this season.. thats just how its been.. so the best available tackle or guard may be in play..

    but then we also have a major issue as far as pss rush,, who knows chubbs and phillips future.. chop looks decent.. we also need a linebacker with ball hawking skills and that can tackle..
     
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  16. JJ_79

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    Of course the D wasn’t but that was to expected before the game. The O played a good game but needed an even better one. What’s your point with my Allen statements?
     
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  17. cbrad

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    Linebacker for me is top priority.
     
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  18. TheHighExhaulted

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    The Dolphins will be 5-6 going into Green Bay on Thanksgiving night. Who knows what kind of team Green Bay is fielding then? They don't look very good right now.
     
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  19. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Before injuries last season they played well. The worry is injuries, not really their play. And because of that drafting linemen has to be a priority.
     
  20. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    And DB.
     
  21. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    Good point but I thought we needed at least 30 to have a chance today, I know that’s a lot but you can’t count on our D atm…
     
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  22. pumpdogs

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    Haha!
    So funny.
    Look in the mirror and say I was wrong.
    You can't can u?
    Meaning weak minded.
    Now that's funny!
     
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  23. Tuanon4Life

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    Out of the three Tua is the last to go.
     
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  24. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    You claim it’s the HC and offenses fault for losing. If we’re being stupid, I’m going to say it’s your fault.
     
  25. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    Not so sure I might put my money on Grier…
     
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  26. cbrad

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    Sadly it's nearly impossible to make the playoffs now. There are 5 teams ahead of us to get a WC, and 3 more losses probably makes it impossible anyway as we'd have 9 losses to the season. GB, Texans and 49ers look like losses right now, and to think we'll sweep everyone else is unrealistic. It is true we're not mathematically eliminated yet though.

    If we end up not making the playoffs, I hope it's because we played well on offense and lost because of the defense. That isolates the issue that needs fixing and gives us a higher draft pick. We'll see what happens!
     
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  27. pumpdogs

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    Moron where did I say it's the offences fault.
    Didn't realize,Chubb,Phillips,Van ginkel ever played offence.
    As for McDaniel I thought he was in charge of team?
     
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  28. hitman8

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    Stop with the delusional talk please. GB is 6 and 2, we are 2 and 6.
     
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  29. The_Dark_Knight

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    Then by your own statement, blame for today’s loss has to be directed at the defense.
     
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  30. TheHighExhaulted

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    The 6-2 Bills needed a 61 yard field goal at home to beat the Dolphins.
     
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  31. TheHighExhaulted

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    I don't agree that Green Bay, Houston and San Francisco at home are lock losses. Love is hurt. Houston is decimated by injuries on offense and Stroud is regressing. San Francisco is also banged up.
     
  32. Vertical Limit

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    I cant trust Armstead to last another season which is why i also believe best available tackle needs to be considered.. last year they were playing strong too at some point and then collapsed.. then they got injuries.. we need a franchise tackle that is available and depended on to play all the time..
     
  33. TheHighExhaulted

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    Paul was drafted as the heir to Armstead. I think he has a lot of promise.
     
  34. hitman8

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    Season is over genius. I'm not even sure we winn next week against the Rams. No point in winning more games anyway other than to lower our draft position.
     
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  35. Tuanon4Life

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    I meant anything that happens short term. Tua is here for at least three years unless he retires. But yea Grier hanging around past that point wouldn't be much of a suprise sadly.
     
  36. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    lol… I’m not sure you’re stable enough to be using the internet.
     
  37. resnor

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    Right, what isn't being understood about what you are saying? Allen played poorly, for him, and didn't really capitalize on our bad defense. Our offense played great.

    Also, I didn't see all the game, but did that kicker miss an extra point and a field goal earlier? Like, were we even sort of lucky to even be tied?

    We still lost. So if we can't beat them when they play badly, do people think it's gonna have a better result when Buffalo plays better?
     
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  38. resnor

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    No one is blaming the offense.

    We are trying to tell you that the offense IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH to overcome the bad defense. That doesn't make sense to you, because you believe that these Dolphins have the ability to contend. You think this is still a good team.

    Yes, the defense sucks. But even on an off day from Buffalo, with the offense playing about as good as you can expect, it still wasn't enough.
     
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  39. danmarino

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    Plenty here are blaming the offense.

    How did the Bills have an “off day”?
     
  40. pumpdogs

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    Haha!Great response
    I guess we are now 8-0 and on are way to Superbowl..
    All because u were right about everything and us trolls were wrong.
    Haha!!!
    And the Haha is really sad because I actually wish you were right.
     
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