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Dolphins at Bills

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Finatik, Oct 29, 2024.

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  1. Tuanon4Life

    Tuanon4Life Well-Known Member

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    I'm guilty of having higher expectations than most going into this year but I don't think anyone expected us to have two wins halfway through the season. The team is worse than anyone expected including the typical nay sayers.
     
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  2. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    We’re not beating the Rams next week.
     
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  3. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    This was a masterclass in how not to play football by Seattle. Good Lord.
     
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  4. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    So you're admitting that you're a troll. Good...That's a step in the right direction. You've now admitted to it, it's written, these are your words. Confirmation is good. Back on ignore you go.
     
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  5. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Did your pharmacy run out of your meds?
     
  6. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    No one is blaming the offense?

     
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  7. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    You know, something just occurred to me. For those playing the pick ‘em, no one picked the Dolphins to win. In the first pages of this thread, many (myself included) expected the Dolphins to get annihilated.

    So it poses the question, are some of you butt sore because we lost on a last second field goal? Would so many still be so down on this team if we had lost by 20+ points?

    The point being, NO ONE expected the Dolphins to be in this game until the very end. Everyone expected the Dolphins to be obliterated and because we were so close in this game, instead of seeing what we did right; what we did well, it’s the same rancor we would have heard if the final scored had been 44-23.

    Astonishing!
     
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  8. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    There was a 70-13 prediction I believe.
     
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  9. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Can you read or are you just blindly quoting posts at random?
     
  10. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I can read just fine. Now, if your message is being misinterpreted, practice your writing skills to clarify your position.

    I’m psychotic, not psychic. I can only read what is written, not what’s meant. My subscription to the Dionne Warwick’s Psychic Friends Network expired decades ago.
     
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  11. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    I honestly don't believe he’s all there. And I’m being serious. His posts are mostly gibberish and nearly unreadable. I think he’s a stroke victim. For real…If he’d admit it I’d stop calling him out for his crazy posts.
     
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  12. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Trolls live to gaslight.
     
  13. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Where am I blaming the offense for losing in my post though?
     
  14. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Calling a master class on how to play offense “safe” and then denying he’s placing blame on the offense is the epitome of gaslighting.
     
  15. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    What does the offense playing safe and the defense playing well enough mean?

    To me it seems like you think the offense could have done more and the defense did it's job.

    Stop playing stupid.
     
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  16. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Saying the defense played "well enough" doesn't mean played "well."

    You should listen to your own advice and stop playing stupid.
     
  17. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Dumbest post ever?
     
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  18. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    That’s impossible for him. You might as well ask a Jest fan to not be a mongoloid.
     
  19. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    I’m sure he’s just getting warmed up.
    I mean, seriously? And some people don’t think he’s a troll. He’s either a troll or one dumb mother****er.
     
  20. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    You should read your own posts more.
     
  21. TheHighExhaulted

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    So what did the defense play "well enough" for? Well enough for what? To win the game? To stay competitive?
     
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  22. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    The way he just takes your posts and turns them around on you is a thing of genius!
     
  23. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Oh OK. Good! Glad you do understand the nuance between saying played "well enough" and played "well."

    The defense played well enough to stay competitive and win the game. Bass misses the 61 yard field goal, and Buffalo is below their seasonal average (28.8). You also really have to remember how many pieces the defense is missing. You aren't ever going to get excellence out of this unit without any real pass rushing attack. Set the bar lower. The defensive roster just isn't that good.
     
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  24. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    When you say the defense played well enough, you’re implying they played well enough to win ergo, fault lies elsewhere.

    Add in the played a nice safe strategy on offense, when your quarterback played a near perfect game implies the offense didn’t play as well as they could have…it was a nice safe strategy.

    Even a novice could see the Dolphins defense collapsed and didn’t play well.

    My wife’s an English major and for years she’s often said to me, “words matter”
     
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  25. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    It really is amazing how you eat up your own bull****.
     
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  26. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    The narcissism is off the charts.
     
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  27. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    You are correct, the defensive roster really isn’t that good. We’re missing Sieler, Chubb, Holland and Ohillips to boot however, when the defense gives up 20 second half points after holding the Bills to 10 in the first half, that’s a defensive collapse.

    During Tua’s absence on IR, the Dolphins defense kept the team competitive and gave the Dolphins a chance to win, but the offense under Huntley and Thompson just couldn’t deliver. Fault of those losses on the offense but today’s loss? Last week’s loss?

    The offense did what it was supposed to and expected to do. The defense did not.
     
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  28. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    How am
    I being narcissistic? I’m mere saying what I read.
     
  29. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Not you.
     
  30. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    I disagree with the ergo. I don't think any side is to "blame." I don't think it's a "fault" thing.

    The offense DID have a safe strategy. They averaged 5.4 yards per run, which is amazing. They ran often. 19 out of 25 completed passes were around 5 yards or less. I think Tua played perfectly within that framework. I don't think he's to "blame," or the offense is to "blame." I just don't think that offense as constructed is very explosive and capable of putting up big points (35+). I don't blame anyone, just playing within that framework is going to be limiting.

    This game doesn't move the needle for me either way. The best thing they can do the rest of the way is tank and draft as highly as they can, and just make sure Grier isn't the man making those picks.
     
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  31. StaleTacos

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    1. Buffalo is a 2nd half team. Look at their 1st half vs 2nd half offensive numbers.
    2. You aren't going to limit the Bills to 12 at home with this defensive roster. The Bills had only 6 at halftime, and they got the ball first. You want to call it a collapse, but what it actually is just a correction to average.
     
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  32. TheHighExhaulted

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    It wasn't a "safe" gameplan. The Bills over the past few years have played two deep safeties and begged the Dolphins to run the ball and throw it short.

    It was a great gameplan today and it was executed damn near perfectly.
     
  33. StaleTacos

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    No. That's how many teams have played the Dolphins. This isn't exclusive to Buffalo. The difference was the Dolphins decided to play within those limitations and pass/run underneath. You can do that, and have success with passes underneath as the Dolphins did. Also, can have a lot of success with the run, 5.4 yards per carry, as the Dolphins did. It's just not very explosive, and you'll be limited offensively. If you want different, then you'll need your QB to run a different offense, and that just isn't going to happen with Tua being so fragile. This is the system. This is the offense. Enjoy the bar.
     
  34. TheHighExhaulted

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    Buffalo had the same gameplan. Allen threw the ball over five yards maybe twice. The difference was his third string running back catching a ball out of the flat and breaking three tackles for a touchdown.

    If Mostert doesn't fumble that ball in Buffalo territory, the Dolphins score and put up 30+ points on the road, in Buffalo, which people said would never happen and probably win the game.
     
  35. The_Dark_Knight

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    Ok, reading your post…twice, I think you’re overlooking something, or misinterpreting the strategy.

    What you call “safe” and not explosive, you have to look at what you’re facing. The Bills had the 5th ranked defense in the league but they were 16th in the league in rushing defense. The Dolphins running the ball as often as the did was not safe, it was smart!

    If you have a defense that sucks against the rush, the last thing you want as a defender is that team rushing the ball against you. You’re not good at it, you can’t stop it and you get that team off the field to give the ball back to your offense.

    The Dolphins strategy against the Bills defense was PERFECT. Run the ball, move the chains, keep their explosive offense and beast of a quarterback on the sideline, be patient and points will come.

    Additionally, if you’re facing a great defensive secondary, you take them out of the game. By running the ball and the number of shorter passes did just that. The Bills are the number 1 team in the league in takeaways. Why play to their strength and risk getting burnt, especially when they suck defending the run?

    Tanking does nothing for a team. All it says for a team is you’re a loser and you’re desperate. Continue playing as if every game is the last game you’ll ever play. Strive to win. Get rid of Grier, draft what you need, make a few roster moves and you’re set.

    McDaniel, like any other head coach in the league isn’t going to win 11 games every season. Even the great coaches in this league had their 5 win seasons but continued doing what they did, made off-season adjustments and picked up where they left off.
     
  36. Striking

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    It was very frustrating to watch this defense they honestly should have given up more then 30. Kudos to the offense for putting up a fight.
     
  37. StaleTacos

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    They are 15th in rush yards per game and 13th in pass yards per game. You are seeing correlation that isn't there. The Dolphins played underneath because that's the limitation you have when you need to get the ball out quickly and defenses play back. It'll never be very explosive.
     
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  38. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Buffalo isn’t necessarily a 2nd half team. If you go back and look at all of their games this season, maybe half of them they came out and rolled in the 2nd half.
     
  39. Vertical Limit

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    Us dolphins fans have been waiting two decades for the demise of the ptriots and when the empire finally collapse, its not us capitalizing it, its the ****ing Bills..
     
  40. StaleTacos

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    Let's stop comparing Allen to Tua. It's laughable at this point. Allen can do anything on the field.

    You can play various "what ifs?" Who cares? They lost, and are 2-6.
     
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