Dolphins’ D-line far from static

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Fin Fan In CaliFin Fan In Caliluxury_boxOP
Jul 26, 2009, 03:07 AM


Rest in peace bigbry and dolphin debby!

BpkBpkluxury_box
Jul 26, 2009, 03:48 AM

1) Randy Starks is a more effective pass rusher from a DT spot in a four-front, imo

2) Don't think we have a good 2nd DT option inside in a 4-front on our roster

3) On passing downs, I could see Wake being tried as a down (or maybe even two point stance) DE. Still, Merling doesn;t have the moves or speed to threaten on the other end in a four-front, imo. Maybe you would see Jason Taylor at the Right End spot in a four front look, with Joey Porter outside him rushing... but that would mean a nickel, so might not work against spread offenses with 4 and 5 receiver sets (those would necessitate dime, at least). But imagine a left tackle having JT lined up over him AND Joey Porter to his outside shoulder. lol. Man.

I feel like we don;t have the ENDS to play an effective 4-front, yet we don;t have the right NOSE to play a great 3-front. We need a Nose in next year's draft.

the 23rdthe 23rdNew Member
Jul 26, 2009, 12:55 PM

Holliday is waiting in the wings to return
@32 he's got another two or three good years left
hope no one picks him up before we are in a position to bring him back

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Fin Fan In CaliFin Fan In Caliluxury_box
Jul 26, 2009, 01:03 PM

"the 23rd wrote:

Holliday is waiting in the wings to return
@32 he's got another two or three good years left
hope no one picks him up before we are in a position to bring him back

But would he after he was released?


Rest in peace bigbry and dolphin debby!

the 23rdthe 23rdNew Member
Jul 26, 2009, 01:23 PM

I think he (Holiday) knows the Front Office is all about the business of the team & his release was as reluctant as it was impersonal.
I believe he would welcome a return (i.e. Jason Taylor & Crowder made sacrifices to play for the Dolphins under similar circumstances)
I know it's a long shot but believe it is one worth considering.
We'll know by mid-training camp. Got a feeling McDaniels is skating on thin ice. We'll see.

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ANAnonymoussubscriber
Jul 26, 2009, 02:17 PM

"Bpk wrote:

1) Randy Starks is a more effective pass rusher from a DT spot in a four-front, imo

2) Don't think we have a good 2nd DT option inside in a 4-front on our roster

3) On passing downs, I could see Wake being tried as a down (or maybe even two point stance) DE. Still, Merling doesn;t have the moves or speed to threaten on the other end in a four-front, imo. Maybe you would see Jason Taylor at the Right End spot in a four front look, with Joey Porter outside him rushing... but that would mean a nickel, so might not work against spread offenses with 4 and 5 receiver sets (those would necessitate dime, at least). But imagine a left tackle having JT lined up over him AND Joey Porter to his outside shoulder. lol. Man.

I feel like we don;t have the ENDS to play an effective 4-front, yet we don;t have the right NOSE to play a great 3-front. We need a Nose in next year's draft.

Well, we have some choices for next year. Suh, Terrence Cody, and the DT from Duke.

BpkBpkluxury_box
Jul 26, 2009, 03:07 PM

"Ashraf wrote:

Well, we have some choices for next year. Suh, Terrence Cody, and the DT from Duke.

NOt sure I know the Duke NT. I like Suh plenty.

ALalen1New Member
Jul 26, 2009, 03:09 PM

"Ashraf wrote:

Well, we have some choices for next year. Suh, Terrence Cody, and the DT from Duke.

Oghobasee I think you're talking about. He's awfully big, like 6'6". He might be too big but we'll see how he plays with leverage. I have seen very little of him.

ANAnonymoussubscriber
Jul 26, 2009, 03:11 PM

"Bpk wrote:

NOt sure I know the Duke NT. I like Suh plenty.

Vince Oghobaase. Not sure if he can play the nose, but from what I'v read, he excels at stopping the run.

dolfan22dolfan22subscriber
Jul 26, 2009, 06:21 PM

would he? yes

"Fin Fan In Cali wrote:

But would he after he was released?

Holliday was on aqua vision and he stated he would come back . From the interview you clearly have the sense that he WANTS to be a dolphin again and that is his difinitive preference. He didn't dramatically announce it , but he left no doubt on where he is at for this.

BpkBpkluxury_box
Jul 26, 2009, 06:23 PM

We'd nab Holliday if there's a training camp injury, or if our kids REALLY struggle.

Vonnie will be available. I'm sure our F.O. recommended he stay in shape.

PhinsRockPhinsRockluxury_box
Jul 27, 2009, 08:19 AM

Thanks for the link John, the guy didn't put a whole lot of work into that article, did he?

I expect if the FO doesn't like what they see with our existing DL, we'll see Holiday back in a similar contract to JT.

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the 23rdthe 23rdNew Member
Jul 27, 2009, 10:51 AM

"dolfan22 wrote:

Holliday was on aqua vision and he stated he would come back . From the interview you clearly have the sense that he WANTS to be a dolphin again and that is his difinitive preference. He didn't dramatically announce it , but he left no doubt on where he is at for this.

it is a good thing when good players really want to be a part of the team

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