Dolphins Gaslit Flores into insanity

Brian Flores was a terrible head coach and person. Now he's an assistant towel boy on the Steelers.

 

I think it's telling when the Dolphins can only win one more game this season and have added this much talent by mortgaging their future. God damn. It's possible they lose more games. How can Grier pretend he should have a job?

 

Terrible coach and person according to who? Tua and Grier? Most players liked Flores and played hard for him, he just didn't have a lot of tolerance for Tua and Grier's stupidity.

 

Feel better now HM ?

 

Terrible person? Wtf? Youre way out of bounds on that. Because he didnt think he can win with Tua that makes him a terrible person? There are players around the league that still respect Flores. You dont know him personally, he has no criminal history and is a family man.

 

He is a really poor head coach that wanted to mortgage the future for a sexual predator which is going real well for the Browns

 

The entire organization was all in on Watson. Folks got to stop scapegoating Flores. Really buying what the billionaire paid for you to believe.

 

Yeah but that doesn't make him less bad. Grier should go and Ross is a horrendous owner. Everyone being bad is not a defense of Flores.

Flores also signed off on Tua which doesn't make the decision any better either.

 

Flores was a fraud!
We are still paying the price… he is the idiot who brought Boyer here.
Even with all the flaws…. We moonwalk into the playoffs with a half competent defensive coordinator.

Also hilarious to say Tua was holding him back.
Tua was winning games under Flores.
Flores sure as heck didn’t win any games here without Tua.

Dude brought like 18 different players (and PS squad players) and coaches with him from New England. They were all pretty much useless except for one season of Van Noy. Also had a strange hard on for Hunter Long.

 

You guys are funny- it's one extreme or the other. Flores was a great defensive coach, but he was also difficult to work with. Someone can be both, LOL.

 

What a difference a month can make. When Tua was an MVP candidate just a month ago leading the league in QBR Flores was the villain. Now he was right all along? Some guys need to just pick a narrative and stick with it.

 

It became really hard to talk about these problems when the team was winning agaist banged up teams, who were not covering the middle of the field.

Now Tua and his shortcomings are on full display with a complete collapse, 4 game losing streak in December, and all the stuff some of us have been saying for a couple seasons is being shown to be true

 

Agreed. I don't know how anyone can argue Flores didn't get the most out of his teams in terms of wins. He might have not been Tua's friend, but nor was the owner or GM who both tried to move on from him. The coach saw Tua more than anyone else, and knew he wasn't the goods. Why waste time? Instead Grier won the front office battle, and mortgaged the future to try to prove his 2020 draft wasn't a complete friggin disaster.

 

We're out here caping for Flores now?

 

But he got the least out of Tua

 

The team is more important than Tua. He tried to make it work but ultimately saw Tua for what he was.

 

He tried in incompetent fashion. Do you really think this team would have been better of if they handed Flores the keys to do what he wants?

 

Flores was piece of **** who used the race card to cost us a number 1 pick.
**** him!

 

I think you need an offensive minded coach to win big in this league, which Flores was not. I'm fine with getting rid of Flores for that reason. I think organizationally the much larger problem was and is Grier. This team is MUCH more talented than last year's team due to mortgaging the future, and their win total will be the similar or less. You cannot argue with Flores' results and win totals.

 

The beat writers were not fond of him. Many of the players said they could feel a better feeling within the locker room.

 

The biggest problem is Ross but yeah they should have fully cleaned house. Flores signing off on drafting Tua and then failing to get anything out of him and wanting to make a disaster of a trade means nobody should talk about him being right.

And no I don't care that they went on a run against against some of the worst QBs imaginable last year so yes I will argue against them. If Tua beating bad defenses doesn't count then Flores beating Ian Book can't either.

 

In fairness Ross is to blame there. Yeah Flores could have not snitched but they also could have just not tampered.

 

Do you think teams are having talks with Sean Payton right now under the table? If you don't, I have a bridge to sell you.

This happens all the time but only Miami gets punished because the big baby Flores cried about it.

 

All owners do this ****!This guy is a snitch!
We will never ever be a head coach again!

 

You are disgracing the good name of Don Strock, a Dolphin legend.


I suggest changing your name to Sh*tPoster.

 

Doesn't matter if they are competent enough to not get caught. Keep in mind Flores didn't reveal anything about Sean Payton. He only revealed the Brady part.

 

Flores would have gotten the Texans HC job but he threw them into his lawsuit against the NFL. That's how much of an idiot he is.

 

Or, hitman9 since his other account uses 8.

 

To be fair, Flores had Austin Jackson and Liam Eichenberg at LT instead of Armstead and no Tyreke Hill. Maybe his personality dug his own grave but to me the consistent problem is Grier is a horrible GM and has blundered a once in a lifetime opportunity with the Tunsil trade.

 

Sure Grier is no good but its clear he looks to get guys the coach wants. The offensive roster improvements are a result of McDaniel having a clue.

If Flores was here they wouldn't have Tyreek because they would have spent on the picks on a QB who wouldn't have been in the building for most of the season

 

I don't think either Flores or Mcdaniels are bad coaches. One is a defensive wizard with little clue on offense, and the other is an offensive wizard with little clue on defense. Overall the end result is the same, we have a barely .500 team. I do however think Grier is a terrible GM who gets the most important decisions and whole drafts wrong. And please quit using the "he just gets the players the coaches want" excuse, that is just a copout for a GM's stupid personell decisions. By that logic GMs will never be held responsible for anything and will always deflect blame onto the coaches.

It's not the coaches job to scout players year round, and it is Grier who has final say over all personnell decisions and draft picks, not the coaches. He is the one who should be held ultimately responsible.

 

McDaniel’s playcalling and game day decisions are much worse than Flores.

 

That's bold to say McDaniel's play calling was worse than Flores considering Flores had nothing at all to do with the offense. And, Flores was terrible with timeouts and the clock.

 

Ultimately the issue with the team is the owner. Ross is the ultimate boss of the entire organization. Grier answer to Ross and Ross only. The entire team, from the coaching staff to the last player on the practice squad is what the GM outs together.

I remember an interview with Jerry Jones one year. Long story short, Jones said in this interview, because of how badly the Cowboys were doing that if he had to fire the GM, he would fire himself. That’s how bad it was.

I just don’t understand how Ross can allow Grier to remain as the GM. The Dolphins have been terrible with flashes of occasional lightening in a bottle since he became the owner. I just don’t see Ross as a true FOOTBALL guy. It doesn’t seem to truly bother him how bad the Dolphins have been.

I know if I were the owner, I wouldn’t care what the GM has TRIED to do. Like the “skipper” penguin from the Madagascar films, don’t give me excuses, give me results. If my current GM wasn’t putting together a team that could win, then I’m getting someone who can.

 

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Not McDaniel's fault QB is throwing INT or missing open players.

 

kinda like America currently.