Yep I read this too as Ross blessing drafting a new QB in the draft. Good because Palmer doesn't excite me at all.

 

Palmer is ideal to QB while we groom our QB for the future. As long as he can be had for a late draft pick I'd be all for it.

This reinforces Ross' confidence in Jeff as a GM, that was apparent when we were rumored for Cowher (wanted his own GM or control of personnel, etc) or when we went for Harbaugh, Jeff was always in the picture. I personally like that, Ireland has had a few solid drafts IMO.

 

This is also a signal that those three year extensions for both Sparano and Ireland are actually three year extensions, not one year deals masquerading as three year deals.

 

But another 7-9, or worse, season without a rookie QB I think would spell Tony's end.

 

I think that's more on Ireland than Tony. A coach only has the tools a GM gives him.

 

cool, iam fine with this, its what Ross should say, hes been a good owner thus far..however, it doesnt change the plan, its all about what QB you have conviction about. and whether you wanna just get 1 QB, or Mark Ingram and 1 QB.

 

That would depend on a lot of factors. Too early to start talking about scenarios in which people get fired. We don’t know what the roster looks like yet.

 

If Ireland gives him Carson Palmer...

 

THIS is the way an owner should think and talk. I'm loving that Ross has come out and said these things publicly. A huge reason for playing hard and working hard for any employer is knowing that the boss has your back. Ross seems to have both Ireland's and Sparano's back. Like them or not, Ross is playing his cards correctly and I love it.

IMO, Ross is a winner and will get this franchise back to elite status. It can't and won't happen overnight though.

 

I like the fact that Ross is a believe in continuity. But I still have concerns about Tony Sparano. If he was the primary decision maker in the Daboll hiring, I really have concerns over whether or not he has what it takes to fix this offense. The good news is if he can't get it done, I think we can keep continuity by having Mike Nolan become the head coach and bringing in a qualified offensive coordinator. That's IF the 2011 season ends up being the disaster I think it might be.

 

I think we picked up Daboll because it was the only OC he could persuade to come to Miami. Holmgren got rid of him for a reason. His resumee is less then impressive. I perdict we see an offense from him very similiar to the one we ran under Henning.

 

Exactly. Nobody wants to work under a lame duck coach except a guy who had little chance of being hired anywhere else. My nightmare scenario is we'll be wishing for Henning to come back. Like I said, I'll support the guy until he proves my worst fears to be true, but I am not optimistic at all about this season and the combination of Tony Sparano and Brian Daboll are the reason.

 

I disagree. The guy has a pretty impressive, albeit short, resume and has worked with some of the games best coaches. Add to it the fact that the lowly Browns stomped the Pats, beat the Dolphins, and should have beat Jets ( blown coverage led the Jets to an OT TD) shows that he, for whatever reason, is able to play the AFC East tough. Also, the Browns face the Ravens and Steelers 2 times each, every season, and I'm hard pressed to say that they should have had too many winning seasons. IMO, both the Ravens and Steelers, overall, are better teams than the Pats and Jets.

Overall, Daboll looks as if he'll be a solid hire. I'll at least give him some time before I burn him at the stake.

 

While it was the smart thing for Ross to say, let's see how he feels if this team starts off 0-2 or 0-3, with a home loss or two in there.

How many more years do they get? If they draft a 1st round QB, it's got to be playoffs or bust in 2012

 

Shouldn't it be that way regardless of what we do at QB?

 

I am hoping it means Ross gave his blessing to drafting Colin Kaepernick!

 

Well of course, but if we don't draft a 1st rounder and go with Henne plus random veteran, I imagine another season of no playoffs gets Tony tossed.

If Newton/Gabbert/Mallett or somebody else is on the team, I think he gets through 2012.

 

I really really really hope you're right. And I agree that we should all give him a chance before calling for his head on a stake before the season even starts.

But that doesn't stop me from worrying. The one thing that bugs me is when I read Browns threads from last year how much the criticism sounds exactly like the things we complained about with Henning. Very predictable playcalling, no in game adjustments, etc. I know these have to be taken with a grain of salt as fans criticism of coaches can be undeserved or over the top, but reading what Browns fans had to say about this guy might be a sign of the things to come. Here's a sample -

http://www.barkinghard.com/forums/cleveland-browns/21669-can-we-fire-brian-daboll-now-please.html

 

That's not necessarily what this means. That's just what Omar the buffoon wants it to mean.

It could very well mean Ross wants to stick with Henne and continue developing him rather than prematurely and irrationally ditching him for a quick fix vet with limited upside.

We just don't know...... and until we know, we won't know....... so stop speaking for Ross you idiot b/c you don't know what his blessing are or aren't.

 

Taking the Henne stuff personally still I see.

 

Figured you'd twist it into that. :wink2:

The guy doesn't know what the hell Ross meant by his blanket statement, but he sure as s*** tried to make it seem as though it were whispered directly into his ear.

 

Who cares what Omar blogs? Everybody has their own opinions about what Ross meant. I simply take the guy at his word, there will be competition but that if Henne wins the job then fine.

Omar is correct though when he says that having more time makes it easier to draft a first round QB

 

This is correct, and I agree that there will be competition....... but to think Omar knows exactly what Ross means is arrogant IMO.

 

A good owner ? A good owner wouldn't have embarrassed himself with the pathetic Jim Harbaugh flirtation and subsequent ridiculous "roundtable" that followed. A good owner would have fired Ireland & Sparano in the off-season and hired Bill Cowher. A good owner would not be asking for the public to give him money to help improve his PRIVATELY OWNED facility, with zero payback for the public with their good money (that will take away jobs from firemen, teachers, EMT's and policemen) - sorry but a good owner would do whatever he could to make his team a winner, not keep the same crap FO and HC that have produced two losing seasons in a row, and lost 9 out of the last 10 home games. A good owner would worry more about the on the field product than orange carpets, pseudo celebrity co-owners and dance clubs at his stadium.

 

I can tell you already it will not be good enough. We just don't have the means to make the team good enough this off-season.

 

You have been reading my mind Blitz ? :lol: That is exactly my fears as well. I have a terrible gut feeling this season will remind us a lot of 2007.

 

Very scary.......I am nauseated reading that. We could have a 2007 Dejavu ! :tantrum:

 

Well its not like the players are going to help pay the bill :lol:

 

Well tell Mr BILLIONAIRE Ross to keep his hands off of my wallet too.

 

Maybe they can play in the big field behind my house

 

True...... but he is the one who hired the guy that is responsible for those calls,

 

:chuckle:

I read that and can't help but chuckling immaturely with Henning's name above the underlined part. It's funny b/c you didn't mean it to be funny. lol.

 

Did he though? Or was that Parcells.

Sparano has a lot more riding on the season than Ireland imo. Ireland has acquired good talent, Sparano has not made the most of it.

 

Fair point, but lets not forget Ireland says he has supported Tony throughout this entire off season. He does not feel our HC is a problem area. That is a direct reflection of Ireland. I also have a hard time laying the Sparano hire (good or bad) solely at Parcells feet. I think Ireland had to discuss who the head coach would be before taking the job, if not he is an idiot. Parcells might of sold Jeff on the idea, but Jeff had to agree to it and he knew he was tied to it once he agreed. He even got a chance to seperate himself from it and he instead chose to say that Tony was his guy.

 

I dont understand why you automatically take the worst case senario. what if we start 3-0 . wtf

 

these people are all full of ****

 

"Long-term" as in "get ready, plan ahead, because you'll be out on your *** soon"?