Dolphins’ Henne leading QB pack

The same things were said about John Beck during last year's training camp.

"padre31 wrote:

The same things were said about John Beck during last year's training camp.

:lol:

Yes they were.

I find it a stretch as well for this site to proclaim that Henne has "vaulted" to the front of the QB competition.

yeah uh they seem to fail that henne does this against the 2nd and 3rd string defenses.....

but i still think it would be hilarious if henne actually DID beat out everyone and was our Trent Edwards this year.

i mean the irony would be seriously thick.

I don't get the negative reactions to articles like this. The fact that the youngest guy on the roster is playing the best is a good thing.

well word out of the front office continues to be that no one QB has moved ahead of either of them so I would take this with a grain of salt. Just because 1 leads a scoring drive and the others do not means little. From yesterday's blog there were a few TD's that were good throws and dropped by the WR's so just scoring a td or not means little until it is all taken into account.

i wouldv'e thought that after beck had thrown some 4,000 passes this offseason that he would have a leg up on this competition but i have to say even for being only the first week of tc there have been alot of incompletions wether it be errand passes by the qb or mess ups from the reciever(iv'e read alot about it being more on the qb either throwing a little behind the wr or overthrowing/underthrowing the wr so far).
it worries me because theres no real pressure out there by the defense...we should not be having incompletion problems in camp. man the tb game can't get here quick enough.

"m ino wrote:

i wouldv'e thought that after beck had thrown some 4,000 passes this offseason that he would have a leg up on this competition but i have to say even for being only the first week of tc there have been alot of incompletions wether it be errand passes by the qb or mess ups from the reciever(iv'e read alot about it being more on the qb either throwing a little behind the wr or overthrowing/underthrowing the wr so far).
it worries me because theres no real pressure out there by the defense...we should not be having incompletion problems in camp. man the tb game can't get here quick enough.

i think beck's issues are not talent or anything, but he's just playing scared. he was beat up so bad last year i think he's hearing footsteps, as john madden would say. even during practice. he's too conservative now, hitting the check-downs and throwing picks. The greatest thing going for Henne right now is that he's a young gunslinger with no real pressure, so he's out there, loose, and just playing football. I think the most pressure is on beck, and that's why he's struggling.

signed, Omar.

"texasPHINSfan wrote:

i think beck's issues are not talent or anything, but he's just playing scared. he was beat up so bad last year i think he's hearing footsteps, as john madden would say. even during practice. he's too conservative now, hitting the check-downs and throwing picks. The greatest thing going for Henne right now is that he's a young gunslinger with no real pressure, so he's out there, loose, and just playing football. I think the most pressure is on beck, and that's why he's struggling.

signed, Omar.

i totally agree...it's like he expects to be reamed on every play almost instinctively going into "oh-crap" mode at the snap and very unconfident in the o-line. thinks he has to get rid of the ball quickly but ends up holding it too long at times and panicing.
but my same post could be said about mcnown as well and there shouldn't be that "playing scared" feeling for mcnown..while i didn't expect mcown to be marino-esque i did expect more completions so far in t.c. maybe the finger is bothering more than he is letting on who knows as long as one can step up and become consistant im happy.

"MonstBlitz wrote:

I don't get the negative reactions to articles like this. The fact that the youngest guy on the roster is playing the best is a good thing.

It's not a negative reaction to Henne playing well at times.
That has nothing to do with it.

Without a doubt any positive signs from the rook is good.

The "negative reaction" is to the media and bloggers that consistently add knee jerk spin where it's not necessary.

Padre brought up a very valid point.

Henne has had his share of good pracitices which is good.
However, this writer makes it seem Henne has been a solid performer above McCown and Beck while comments from the Phins have consistently been along the lines that no one has distanced themselves from the pack.

Add to that a list of practices where all the QB's have shown inconsistent performances and the viewpoint becomes even less valid.

"texasPHINSfan wrote:

yeah uh they seem to fail that henne does this against the 2nd and 3rd string defenses.....

but i still think it would be hilarious if henne actually DID beat out everyone and was our Trent Edwards this year.

i mean the irony would be seriously thick.

I'd be happy texasPHINS, as long as he played well, I mean come on, us fans are looking back to Gus Frerotte with nostalgic longing for the "Good old Days of Gus"...

"padre31 wrote:

I'd be happy texasPHINS, as long as he played well, I mean come on, us fans are looking back to Gus Frerotte with nostalgic longing for the "Good old Days of Gus"...

seriously.... if you would have told me in 2000-2002 that in 2008 i'd be pining for the days of Fiedler, i would have thought you were retarded.

"Coral Reefer wrote:

It's not a negative reaction to Henne playing well at times.
That has nothing to do with it.

Without a doubt any positive signs from the rook is good.

The "negative reaction" is to the media and bloggers that consistently add knee jerk spin where it's not necessary.

Padre brought up a very valid point.

Henne has had his share of good pracitices which is good.
However, this writer makes it seem Henne has been a solid performer above McCown and Beck while comments from the Phins have consistently been along the lines that no one has distanced themselves from the pack.

Add to that a list of practices where all the QB's have shown inconsistent performances and the viewpoint becomes even less valid.

I see some of your points. But there is also a very potent pro John Beck spin on this board. If there's any postive Beck news it's received with joyous posts and a never ending flow of these - :lol::lol::up::hi5::lol::yes:

Any pro Henne articles are automatically read into as a shot against John Beck and looked upon with skepticism.

Why can't we just be happy that one of the young guns, or I should say THE young gun is playing well?

"texasPHINSfan wrote:

seriously.... if you would have told me in 2000-2002 that in 2008 i'd be pining for the days of Fiedler, i would have thought you were retarded.

It isn't THAT bad. We could have a bag of doornobs as QB and it would still be better than Fiedler

"MonstBlitz wrote:

I see some of your points. But there is also a very potent pro John Beck spin on this board. If there's any postive Beck news it's received with joyous posts and a never ending flow of these - :lol::lol::up::hi5::lol::yes:

Any pro Henne articles are automatically read into as a shot against John Beck and looked upon with skepticism.

Why can't we just be happy that one of the young guns, or I should say THE young gun is playing well?

That is not true. The skepticism comes for years of reading "Good camp" and then the regular season becoming total crap. It has nothing to do with John Beck. Dolphin fans on this board are very jaded

Henne had no turnovers, which is big in the minds of Sparano and front-office leader Bill Parcells.

I am hoping that Chad Henne keeps this up and can start for us. I would love to see that .

"MonstBlitz wrote:

I see some of your points. But there is also a very potent pro John Beck spin on this board. If there's any postive Beck news it's received with joyous posts and a never ending flow of these - :lol::lol::up::hi5::lol::yes:

Any pro Henne articles are automatically read into as a shot against John Beck and looked upon with skepticism.

Why can't we just be happy that one of the young guns, or I should say THE young gun is playing well?

Thank you. The extreme pro-Beck bias of the board makes no sense to me. Sure he seems like a hard worker and a nice guy but he has done absolutely nothing worthy of such devotion. I'd love for him to step up and win the job b/c that would mean he performed best. Same with McCown or Henne (ok maybe not McCown so much)

"texasPHINSfan wrote:

seriously.... if you would have told me in 2000-2002 that in 2008 i'd be pining for the days of Fiedler, i would have thought you were retarded.

Why on earth would anyone wish for a QB like ears back?

What we should want is for the first talented QB we've had to emerge since Marino, not to go back to one of the rejects we've relied upon.

ACK! You're killing me Tex. :lol:

"MonstBlitz wrote:

I see some of your points. But there is also a very potent pro John Beck spin on this board. If there's any postive Beck news it's received with joyous posts and a never ending flow of these - :lol::lol::up::hi5::lol::yes:

Any pro Henne articles are automatically read into as a shot against John Beck and looked upon with skepticism.

Why can't we just be happy that one of the young guns, or I should say THE young gun is playing well?

I said this in the Club Level, I'll gladly admit to you that I'm a fan of John Beck. I really like the guy, the character and the player. I think he has the tools to succeed in this league. But if he can't get the job done when asked to, take a seat. Let the guy who can do the job take over. I like all the Quarterbacks on the roster and I'm happy when a positive article comes out on one of them. In the end, this comes down to winning games for this team and I don't know about others but I want the best guy out there.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

It isn't THAT bad. We could have a bag of doornobs as QB and it would still be better than Fiedler

our bag of doorknobs we've had the last several years haven't been as good as fiedler. ;)

EDIT: and to clarify i'm not "pro-fiedler", just "anti-anything we've had since" :up:

"texasPHINSfan wrote:

our bag of doorknobs we've had the last several years haven't been as good as fiedler. ;)

EDIT: and to clarify i'm not "pro-fiedler", just "anti-anything we've had since" :up:

Honestly I feel that even AJ Feeley would of done better than Fiedler. Fiedler played on some really good teams.

I agree with tex here...Fiedler wasn't great, but hey we won with him.

As far as the current QB's go...I like McCown, but I would rather see one of the young QB's take control. But more importantly...I wanna win, so if McCown can deliver I'm 110% behind him.

"texasPHINSfan wrote:

i think beck's issues are not talent or anything, but he's just playing scared. he was beat up so bad last year i think he's hearing footsteps, as john madden would say. even during practice. he's too conservative now, hitting the check-downs and throwing picks. The greatest thing going for Henne right now is that he's a young gunslinger with no real pressure, so he's out there, loose, and just playing football. I think the most pressure is on beck, and that's why he's struggling.

signed, Omar.

And then BOOM!

I agree 100%. The guy wants to prove he's not the mistake that got CamRam fired, that he's different...better.

"texasPHINSfan wrote:

signed, Omar.

LOL! :lol:

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

It isn't THAT bad. We could have a bag of doornobs as QB and it would still be better than Fiedler

While I agree fiedler was no Marino, the guy has been the best Qb we've had since Marino thus far.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Honestly I feel that even AJ Feeley would of done better than Fiedler. Fiedler played on some really good teams.

but this is just crazy Feeley sucks!!!!