Now this is interesting in light of the discussion of the Bills bringing in a "Expert" in Tae Kwon Do:
Per 'Nando..
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/
Apparently this is a "Okinawan" Art, I'd guess Aikido?
Interesting that JT and JP took advantage of the training, Cam Wake had best get in line as well, his hands are not good at the moment.
And Cam Cameron...yoga....fail..
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jt should learn crane style
jp monkey style
wake snake style
crowder tiger style.
and at the very least we will have the starting cast of kung fu panda.Silverphin, HULKFish, GridIronKing34 and 3 others like this. -
What? No Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon style? They could fly over the LOS and land in the backfield..:lol:
Actually, I really hope Wake is taking advantage of the offer, running the speed rush every down is not a strategy for long term success.
I like what one of the consultants had to say here:
Boy is that the truth, guys just stayed glued to blocks, but the teacher is as only as good as the player uses the techniques. -
naw crouching tiger hidden dragon isn't real. everybody knows kung fu panda is based on ling ling the panda from the tokyo zoo......Ophinerated, padre31 and SICK like this.
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Pfft...Ling Ling mock soft Tokyo Zoo panda:
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great conditioning as well. something new and fun to mix the conditioning up. if only we did this when Eddie Moore was on the team......
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if only we didnt draft eddie moore..................................Silverphin, The Aqua Crush, HULKFish and 1 other person like this.
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Eddie Moore was injured so often it wouldn't have mattered.:sad:
I like it, the guy could be name dropping with "JT and JP were excited to take part" but with stuff like this, 9 guys may try it, and only 1 or 2 guys really be helped with it. -
Eddie Moore would just be that whiny failure that drops out of karate school, tries to turn evil, then gets his *** kicked by the good guys.Silverphin likes this.
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This reminds me of some crackpot back in the old HeraldTalk days.
I think Ricky or somebody broke or sprained their arm and some guy said the injured player didn't know how to fall correctly and that all Dolphins should be taught judo, so they would not get injured while falling.
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apparantely some are getting my joke...eddie more was knocked out at a club while he was on the injuried list one season..
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Mike Storms is/was an MMA fighter for one fight and I believe he refs some. His school doesn't specify a style. The article says "Okinawan" so I would guess that whatever they are learning would be based off of Kung Fu or Kempo. Aikido is Japanese so I don't think that would be the style. It also doesn't involve much striking.
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This is very cool stuff. Martial arts has many practical applications in football.
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Per wikipedia.com .
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I don't remember that but I do believe that learning to fall can help avoid injuries. When I was a kid I took judo. I didn't get very far in it but I did learn how to fall. I took several falls from bikes or general kids playing around stuff and I would instinctively roll. I believe that it was one of the reasons I never broke anything. Of course in football its a bit different as you take some falls that can't be controlled. And I've had more than my share of football injuries so it hardly a cure-all.padre31 likes this.
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Depends, the difference between a martial art and football is the player is not trying to fight the opponent, they are trying to move past the opponent or trying to keep the opponent from moving past them.
Trace Armstrong in that article a couple of days ago mentioned you have 2.5 seconds to reach the Qb or it's a coverage sack, that is not much time to do much more then one move, maybe two moves, on a 300 pd man to get by them.
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I believe that their martial arts styles take their names from the region they were developed in but they originated from the chinese arts of Kung Fu and Kempo which they learned from their chinese trade partners.
I think Okinawan karate is also famous for all the weapons adapted by the peasants to fight the Samurai and Nobles (who were the only ones legally allowed to carry weapons). -
Maybe, that is one of the areas where football and the arts may not mesh well, the action takes place in a small semi circle around each player, and there no blows struck normally, there is an Olineman's "punch" where that concept could be quite helpful.
the Tackle loads up the hands to deliver the "punch", the OLB moves offline while swatting the oncoming arms down while keeping their feet and body lean moving forward.
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I'm certainly no expert, but I do know that martial arts is not all about attacking the oppenent. There are many techniques in avoidance and countermeasures. All useful stuff in the trenches.
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i always thought aikido was mainly defensive........... the whole don't enter my circle thing ya know?
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I'm no expert either, there are large differences though, in football the players approach each other with no concern for protecting their heads.
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From my wanna be martial arts days (growing up watching Bloodsport and steven seagall movies) Aikido was a more defensive martial art, but the key point was using the opponents motions and energy against them. Basically what you see in Steven Seagall movies.
If those same skills can be applied to blockers you can shed them faster is what I'm thinking. Even throw them off balance.Frumundah Finnatic, k-bayfinfan and padre31 like this. -
I know that as a WR my martial arts helped immeasurably. I am/was a small guy but I really felt that I was unpressable (probably a made up word, LOL). If the CB came up to the line I always felt they had no chance.
Now I also played some rush end in flag football but that was more difficult b/c there was more holding going on. I would have needed more skill or more power to break through the holding.cnc66 likes this. -
Well obviously there are HUGE differences. The same way ballerina dancing and boxing are vastly different. That doesn't mean there aren't any practical applications from one sport to the other.
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OT: While we are discussing Martial Arts everyone please offer a momment of silence for:Kwai Chang Caine.
Actor David Carradine, a born seeker and cult idol who broke through as the willing student called “grasshopper” in the 1970s TV series “Kung Fu” and decades later as leader of an assassin squad in “Kill Bill,” was found dead Thursday in Thailand. Police said he appeared to have hanged himself.k-bayfinfan and padre31 like this. -
ballet for the receiving corp, track/sprint specialist for the RB's to go w/ the martial art instructor
whatever works!
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Aikido is a type of fighting style where you would turn your opponents strength and aggressiveness into your advantage(swim move anyone?). Steven Segal is a master at this fighting style.
Kempo is kinda like taekwondo.... just not as much kicking. Kempo= Japanese kickboxing.
Judo is more like japanese wrestling(not sumo!!).
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Matt Roth bolstered his skills after the season in the boxing ring & Jerry Rice used ballet
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IMO the most easily adaptable style to pass rushing would be Ju-jitsu. Aikido's smaller circles and precision hand placements are more difficult to apply to in a football situation. I also find that Aikido takes a very long time to master.
Kempo works well for WRs b/c there is a lot of quick hand parrying.
I do think that Sumo seems very applicable as well although its not something I've ever practiced.
All martial arts training styles provide some benefit b/c they focus on body awareness (both yours and your opponents) but there's also a great deal that doesn't apply to football, for example kicking. So as a martial arts fan myself I applaud the use of some of the training but I also realize that there's only so much benefit.
I heard the Bills brought in a Taekwondo trainer and that doesn't make much sense to me. This was a style that was created to defend against people on horse back (hence all the high kicking). There are some general principles and some stances that apply but most of it doesn't. Now I don't know what additional principals this guy teaches but at some point a football player derives a greater benefit from training specifically for football.k-bayfinfan and padre31 like this. -
Bess probably recieved the highest grade from the instructor for his unbelievable feet movement while carrying the ball.
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:lol: you must have been dissapointed when you heard of his career move.
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I remember reading how Steven Seagal went to Japan to learn true Aikido, and when he came back here it was almost unrecognizable to the American Aikido practitioners.
Imagine a JT doing this stuff to some Left Tackles, how awesome would that be. HOw about that beesnatch Matt Light.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu7aauJuQHY"]YouTube - Steven Segal Kicking real life ***! Aikido Martial Art[/ame]k-bayfinfan and Silverphin like this.
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