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Dolphins Interest for 2009 Draft DL OLB

Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by joeydolfan, Apr 29, 2008.

  1. joeydolfan

    joeydolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I know we just got past the 2008 draft but I have been looking at some of the prospects that either will be graduating or look to come out after their Jr. year next year and found a few interesting prospects.


    Al Woods*, LSU
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 324.
    40 Time: 5.08.

    Possible NT for next year.

    Tyson Jackson, LSU
    eight: 6-5. Weight: 292.
    40 Time: 4.76.

    I really liked what I saw from Tyson this year and was hoping he would come out in 2008. Prototypical size for a 3-4 DE and fits parcells mold. Kid is strong at the point of attack and has good speed for his size to rush the pasher.

    George Selvie*, South Florida
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 255.
    40 Time: 4.65.
    Projected Round (2009): Top 10 Pick.

    Really explosive and quick kid that plays DE for the bulls right now, Parcells must be salivating. Should easily convert to OLB in a 3-4.

    Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech
    Height: 6-7. Weight: 250.
    40 Time: 4.65.

    Will watch this kid with great interest this year just doe to his measurables.
     
  2. Swampfox

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    Better start looking at CB's. This is W. Allens last year and considering his age he will want the money or a ring so I doubt he resigns with us. This means we will need 2 starting CB's as it stands right now.
     
  3. BuckeyeKing

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    Any Buckeyes really have a shot at playing for us.

    I like Jenkins from Ohio St and Rey from USC.
     
  4. adamprez2003

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    We have to draft Selvie. The guy is a monster. He will get after the QB like a beast. Sorry just warming up my arguments for next year. Right now Selvie is my guy
     
  5. Regan21286

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    I'd be interested in Laurinaitis if our run D continues to suffer from poor MLB play.
     
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    Being a native of S. Louisiana and a current Tampa resident, I am very famaliar with three of these guys.

    I think Woods stays for his senior year. And I think it'll help him. If he comes out in 09, hes a third rounder. If he comes out in '10, I think he could be a top five pick.

    I think Selvie might come out, and Selvie is a beast.

    Tyson Jackson is a stud. Only problem is, hes the same position as Langford and Merling. I think next year we go LB and DB more than DL and OL.
     
  7. PhinsRock

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    Adam, you're not allowed any flaming Selvie fonts in your sig until January earliest. :no::lol:
     
  8. vmarcilfan75

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    bring on Rey Rey!!
     
  9. ColoradoPhin

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    Exactly....Rey M. of USC is one of the best LB's I have ever seen. :up:
     
  10. BuckeyeKing

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    Well in a 3-4 Rey would be ILB. JL would be OLB in the 3-4. I'm guessing we will draft a LB next year. Since its core players and we spent picks this year on trench guys it only makes since we draft some LBs.
     
  11. vmarcilfan75

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    being a UCLA fan i hate SC but this kid plays at full speed every play and always seems to be around the ball.
     
  12. RoninFin4

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    I'll submit an under-the-radar name. Since we didn't end up with an OLB via the draft, save if Merling gets converted there, I still feel we don't have a LOLB for our 3-4. I think Quentin Moses will ultimately be a ROLB if/when Joey Porter leaves, I've got my eye on Brian Orakpo, DE from Texas. Here's a quick bio on him http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=33734.

    He'll only be a SR this year and he's on the watchlist for the Lott (best defensive player award) for 2008. He's 6'4" 260lbs and has a frame to add a bit more. Now I'm not comparing him by any means to Chris Long or Vernon Gholston, even Derrick Harvey for that matter, but I think he could play around 270lbs and thrive as a LOLB in a 3-4. Just someone to keep an eye on.
     
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  13. Desides

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    I think by using quite a few draft picks on the front seven in this draft, it means we won't do it that much in the next draft.

    Malcolm Jenkins, please.
     
  14. texanphinatic

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    Either of the top 2 LB, James and Rey, would be a great addition. Jenkins or the kid from Illinois (Vontae Davis?) would also be prime targets.
     
  15. #1dolphinsfan

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    If we are high up we need to draft Malcolm Jenkins
     
  16. joeydolfan

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    I would not mind seeing us trade down depending on what pick we end up with and if it is a reasonable offer. A pretty deep draft next year for DBs and OL.
     
  17. Duss

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    Expect defensive backfield to be a priority, possibly a wideout and more depth on both lines
     
  18. Conuficus

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    Well away from here
    I'd like to enter Antwain Robinson from Arkansas,.........he is a beats that many don't know about. He has the speed to press the edge, dips his shoulder well and can really handle a finesse OT. He's a little on the sort side at 6'2" but if he can play well at around 245-255lbs he'd be a monster IMO.

    I'll give anyone 3 guesses how I found this guy? What have I been doing an examination of lately?
     
  19. RoninFin4

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    Malcolm Jenkins is now my pick. After doing more research on Orakpo, I think he's more late 1st, early 2nd round material. Jenkins would've been picked high had he come out in 2008; my biggest question is, will he end up at CB or FS at the NFL level?
     
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    I haven't seen Ricky Sapp's name anywhere in this thread, so I thought I would just type in this Clemson product's name.

    For those of you checking out USC's Rey, also please pay attention to Brian Cushing, their SLB who also projects outside in a 3-4.

    And for those interested in a CB, Macho Harris out of VaTech looked pretty nice last year. He seemed to make more big plays than Brandon Flowers did...
     
  21. BuckeyeKing

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    Well actually the past to seasons he has been playing alot of Zone/S But this year he is playing mostly MAN COVERAGE, something he was doing back as a true freshman.


    I like Cushing if he can stay healthy.

    Honestly I believe Rey will be the pick if were picking top 5. Top 10 Either James Laurinaitis or Cushing. Though JL will play OLB IMO
     
  22. DraftBoy

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    A couple names Ill throw out there for the top couple of picks for you guys to chew on;

    Ricky Jean-Francois DT-LSU

    In a 3-4 he could play either DE or DT, he has put on extra weight this offseason, I think he's up to 314 now, but he may make some LSU guys forget about Glenn Dorsey.

    Percy Harvin WR-Florida/Micheal Crabtree WR Texas Tech


    Do I need to really talk about these guys?

    Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest

    Watch out for this kid he is an absolute beast and can play OLB or ILB. If my Bills lose Crowell this is who I want them to get

    Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest


    May be better than Davis or Jenkins...

    Maurice Evans DE Penn State

    The next Courtney Brown but with a better work ethic

    Gerarld McRath LB Southern Miss

    Tackling Machine!

    Vincent Rey LB Duke

    This just just has a nose for the ball carrier

    Micheal Tauiliili LB Duke


    Best LB in college football you have never heard of, mark my words this kid will be a big time NFL player

    Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati, DeAngelo Smith CB Cincinnati

    Best CB duo in the nation

    Patrick Chung S Oregon

    Playmaker, end of story!

    Those are some names that haven't been mentioned yet...

    Also I have stats for these guys if you want them, well actually I have stats done for about 200 Juniors and Seniors eligible for the 09 Draft...:db:

    What is this? I dont have my smiley here! Blasphemy!
     
  23. Regan21286

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    I would do somersaults if we land Crabtree and he continues to shine. But, Parcells doesn't like acquiring WR's he's never worked with so that might be an issue there.

    I like what Chung brings to the table immediately as an ST and in the future as a starting SS. If Bell doesn't step up, I'd love to see what he can do. I've seen him play, he's a player all right.
     
  24. DraftBoy

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    While I understand Parcells and his philosophy something has to give here. Even if Henne becomes a good QB over night or McCown finally develops into the QB some draft prognosticators (myself included) thought he would be they still have to have guys at WR to make plays. If you guys have a shot at Crabtree I can't see Parcells passing on him.

    As for Chung he could probably come in and immediately push Bell for the SS job and maybe even beat him out. Oregon has one of the most underrated secondaries in the league with Chung, Byrd, and Thurmmond. Chung is great because he can play the ball, play the man, play a zone, and tackle well. I think his recognition and cover skills still need some work and I prefer safeties 6'0 or taller (Chung is 5'11) but he has ideal bulk, and fundamentals to be a star.
     
  25. RealDriscoll

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    I am not a big fan of Al Woods at all. I am not a big fan of drafting any linemen period. Last draft we selected Donald Thomas, Shawn murphy, Lionel Doston, Kendall Langford, Phillip Merling, and of course Jake Long as well as signing Justin Smiley and Randy Starks in free agency. We built the lines and now it's to start looking at other positions.


    QB: None

    RB:
    Chris Wells-RB-Ohio State: If Ronnie doesn't bounce back and we don't resign Ricky than we will need a back

    WR:
    -Michael Crabtree-Texas Teck
    -Jeremy Maclin-Missouri
    -Darius Heyward Bay-Maryland

    OLB/ ILB:
    -Michael Johnson-Georgia Tech
    -Rey Mauluga-USC
    -James Lauraintis-Ohio State

    CB:
    -Malcom Jenkins-Ohio State
    -Vontae Davis-Illinois
    -Mike Mickens-Cincinnati
    -Macho Harris-Virginia Tech

    S:
    -Taylor Mays-USC
    -William Moore-MIssouri
    -Myron Rolle-Florida State
     
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    Gerald McGrath is very good. Ricky Jean Francis will need another year but has Glenn Dorsey potential.

    -Alphonso Smith is not in Jenkins or Davis' league man. Sorry
     
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    I think the Dolphins will be drafting around 12-13. I think we are much better than people credit us. Around that spot I really like Taylor Marys, Malcolm Jenkins, Vontae Davis, and even Rey Mauluga if he slides..
     
  28. DraftBoy

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    I dont understand how you can say that? Neither player comes anywhere near Smith statistically and they all run roughly the same speed also. Unless Smith measures in a lot shorter than is expected he is just as good (and in my opinion better) than Davis and Jenkins. Here are the numbers:

    Jenkins:
    8 INT
    2 TD
    139 Total Tackles
    9.5 Tackles for Loss
    8 Pass Breakups
    1 Forced Fumble

    Davis:
    5 INT
    128 Total Tackles
    6.5 Tackles for Loss
    14 Pass Breakups
    2 Blocked Kicks

    Smith:
    14 INT
    4 TD
    151 Total Tackles
    21 Tackles for Loss
    27 Pass Breakups
    5 Forced Fumbles
    4 Blocked Kicks

    Smith is a sounder tackler, has played against higher level competition, and has been much more proven over the course of his career. Just because he is coming out of Wake Forest do not downgrade his abilities. He is the top CB in this class as of this moment.
     
  29. DraftBoy

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    Stay away from Mays, he's a little more athletic than Bing but his cover skills need serious work.
     
  30. DraftBoy

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    Good list, only thing is that Michael Johnson likely will stay as a DE in the NFL. I don't see him moving outside.
     
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    Without question Johnson will be a hybrid just like Vernon Gholston this year. Johnson's speed is a key to his game and will def. be moved around. He is a perfect fit for the Dolphins. I really see DeMarcus Ware in him.


    * Malcolm Jenkins and Vontae Davis are far superior than Alphonso Smith.

    * Ricky-Jean is raw and needs works. He would be a much better pro if he declared to stay in school.
     
  32. DraftBoy

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    Demarcus Ware is 6'4 262, Johnson is 6'7, 265 and expected to pack on even more weight and get closer to 280 by the combine/draft time. I dont see any reason for him to move outside at all. He's already going to be the top DE taken.

    Smith has all the same skills as Davis and Jenkins but with a ton less hype and he's outproduced both. To say Davis and Jenkins are far superior is completely devoid to the kid and the way he plays.

    Agreed about RJF but I dont know that he stays.
     
  33. SuncoastFinsFan

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    Lets watch RJF play this year before we decide hes not ready. Last year, LSU out going DC, Bo Pellini, when asked to describe RJFs performance in the BCSCG, said simply, "Without question the best defensive player on the field". Dorsey was in that game, Malcolm Jenkins was in that game, Gholston was in that game, Laurenitis....

    RJF, if properly motivated and healthy, has the potential to be a Bruce Smith type of player. Hes big, hes strong, hes fast. The guy can dominate a game in way few others can because he can move all over the LOS. He can play T or DE. The guy is a stud.

    He was suspended during the regular season last year for academic reasons. I expect him to be a HUGE playmaker this year for LSU.

    ** Al Woods needs to stay another year, and I think he will.
     

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