The Dolphins are proceeding deliberately in their search for a General Manager, but apparently went into hurry up mode for a moment.
According to Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network, the Dolphins “made a late attempt to hire” new Buccaneers G.M. Jason Licht once they found out about Tampa Bay’s interest.
If true, it adds another embarrassing layer to a process which has reportedly turned off a number of prospective candidates.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...de-a-late-run-at-licht-before-bucs-hired-him/
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I happen to know that Licht was not going to choose the Dolphins. I assume he only kept his name in the running for the sake of raising his league profile and/or not burning bridges, but he was not high on the opportunity.
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So, if true, we had a first chocie, but instead of just hiring him, we sit around for days just assuming that Tampa is not interested?
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What makes me uncomfortable about this story (if it's true) is that it really feels like we were trying to outbid the Buccs for his services. If you're on a bidding war, you might as well not hire that person. You want a guy that wants this job, not trying to lure him with money. But that's been the Huizhenga/Ross way, always trying to show off their money.
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And most people take a job for the money. Doesn't mean they don't want to be there. People kill to have two companies vying for their servicesFin-Omenal and Larryfinfan like this. -
I heard this was his reply to the Dolphins
"You can Licht my Balls".Fin-Omenal, finyank13 and PhinGeneral like this. -
We won't have to hear these jokes for the next 3+ years.cuchulainn, Fin-Omenal, finyank13 and 1 other person like this. -
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Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member
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We should have offered Licht day 1 and been done with it. And, give him a 5 year deal. Assure him he's there for the long haul.
Also ironic that Licht does not have final say on the draft/personnel acquisition at Tampa Bay but would have had that here. That really says a lot about what he (and likely other GM candidates) think about the utterly dysfunctional situation in Miami.
And there's this:
I mean, Ross is all over this thing to make the Dolphins a premier team - he's even searching Europe and China for a GM!!!
Now that a senile Al Davis has passed on, Ross is rapidly becoming the most embarrassing owner in the NFL.
Such a complete shame.Sceeto likes this. -
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There is so much crap flying around right now, that it's difficult to discern the probable from the 'made-up' stuff as to Ross' intentions and who he really likes/doesn't like/won't come here because of the perceived turmoil/disgruntled info being passed along by Mando, Beasley, LaCanfora, etc....the truth is that we don't KNOW anything about why this guy or that guy didn't want the job or why this guy took this job instead of our job, etc... I can't believe just about anything I read on national sites, since they are just repeating what the local-yokels are bantering about...
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vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member
Cept his name is pronounced "light" so light my balls would be....kinda odd...
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not to worry Brian Gaines is still available & working on our draft for 2014
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As an aside, I couldn't pick a horse in this race because I have no concept of their abilities to do their job. That's the head hunters job to find out. For me, I'd like xanders, best sounding name.cuchulainn likes this. -
My guess is the Dolphins are going to use their draft picks based on Mel Kiper's mock drafts.
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The thing with Licht joining the Bucs and not coming here could be the perception of job security and empowerment that comes with the job here; or to be exact, the lack of both. Could be. We don't really know (except CK might, but he's not telling) why Licht chose the Bucs over us. -
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I'ld really like to see Rich McKay's name pop up out of nowhere
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Also tells me there is a chance he used the Dolphins to squeeze more money out of Bucs
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He would have less say on personnel with the Bucs, where they gave Lovie Smith final say, and still have to deal with a coach he didn't pick in Lovie Smith, and be stuck with that coach for longer, as Lovie Smith was just hired, as opposed to Philbin who will be on the hot seat. The only potential issue that is even viable is that he doesn't like the Aponte situation? Is he really that put off by a capologist? Seems more likely we just didn't want him as much as the Bucs did. Maybe we offerered a second interview late in the process and at that point the Bucs had already made their bid.
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vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member
Inherently, Im one to be optimistic about the future of our franchise. So...when I read negative things, I am much more reluctant to just assume its true, because thats not in my nature. Obviously, your different. Doesnt make it wrong...doesnt make me right. The fact is....we cant know. The Phins have really held their cards close to the vest. But being a Billionaire, you gotta imagine, Ross can buy access to information we can only dream about. Its his team. All we can do is watch as it all plays out. And try not to kill each other in the process.NyPhinfan likes this. -
For what it's worth, Armando is saying the reports that Dolphins offered Licht the job when they heard of Tampa's interests, are not accurate. They told him he would be a finalist, not offered him a job, according to Armando at least.
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It's like I said in the Club. Carl Peterson probably reached out to Licht to inform him he intends to make him a finalist for 2nd interview, asking him to put off accepting the Tampa job until Ross could get back and they could make a decision.
Of course Licht and his people are going to interpret that as the Dolphins offering him the job, which isn't really true, but they are the ones that likely spoke to Rapoport so that was the story.
That's likely why yesterday morning Carl Peterson's name was specifically attached to the rumor of Licht being in the top two.dirtywhiteboy likes this. -
As for Armando's declaration that Steve Ross never left the country this week, I'm trying to find out who told me this but SOMEONE said either here or on twitter that the flight plan that Ross filed to Alaska (which is a connecting point to the far east) was cancelled on account of weather.
So what probably happened is the flight got cancelled and Ross, seeing things happen so quickly with Licht yesterday and the egg on Miami's face as a result, decided not to re-schedule that flight, forego his trip to China and make a decision on a GM earlier than he wanted.
Of course he won't tell those details to a guy like Armando, he'll just have Armando inform people very matter of factly that Ross never left the country...for effect.Bpk likes this. -
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Ck..gut feeling? who do you think gets the job?
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Pins and needles here. Hope we get a solid GM (as well all do).
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We get the tiniest nugget of truth, and immediately people begin to fill it with their own perception and cognitive bias. This should be a lesson for all of us that follow twitter accounts, and thirst for Dolphin News. Sadly, the soap opera will continue.
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Well, that's far less embarrassing.
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