In the past week the Dolphins had an opportunity to sign either Sam Howell or Justin Fields for relatively little compensation. Either one of these quarterbacks could likely guide the Dolphins to as many or more 20224 season wins as Tua will do, but for much less money. These kind of roster mistakes are why the Dolphins do not have more on the field success.
Except it's not trolling, it's reality. Consider that after going all-in for the 2022 and 2023 seasons, now the consequence is cap issues, which the Dolphins have addressed by letting go of high priced players. Tua was part of the all-in plan , which came up well short, so now it's a reset with lower priced players in trying to build up a roster and coaching staff that might compete for a year 2026 or 2027 Super Bowl. Sam Howell or Justin Fields could have been a good sense bridge QB for the 2024 and maybe 2025 seasons, and the Dolphins might have collected several draft picks had they traded Tua during recent weeks.
Amazing, anyone who has a differing view and opinion from that of Grier and the homers is labeled a troll. I know it gets on your nerves when other posters are not blind homers like you, but that does not make them a troll.
Homers have no interest in reality or differing views, they just want to stick their head in the sand and act like everything is fine and Grier is a genius.
I didn't watch much/any of Howell last season, but I did catch a fair few games that Fields played. Fields is a poor man's version of Lanar Jackson. Not as good as a runner, worse arm and no ability to read a defense. Now if we wanted to sign him to be our back up RB, I could be in board with that . There is no universe where he is even close to a starting NFL QB.
I'm not convinced that Howell is any better than Skylar Thompson. Fields maybe. He's not a very good passer but he could win some games with his legs.
You clearly don't watch any football at all. In saying that, I wouldn't have minded the Dolphins going after Howell as a backup for Tua. Fields would be a complete and utter disaster in this offence and most NFL offences that ask the QB to pass from the pocket.
Well the story is being told to make Fields and the Bears look as good as possible because they both look horrible so you have take that with a grain of a salt but even still Fields/his team would want Steelers over some other teams because he would feel there was a better chance to play. So you can't assume they wouldn't have been ok with Miami since Tua has an injury history.
Its true that wanting Fields isn't trolling but wanting Zach Wilson to start for the Dolphins sure is
Updated list of quarterbacks Aquapride wants to replace Tua with: Davis Mills Jameis Winston Tyrod Taylor Kenny Pickett Cooper Rush Zach Wilson Sam Howell Justin Fields This is after trading Tua for multiple premium draft picks.
I don’t mind criticism of players, if it objective and fact based. Are there aspects of Tua’s game that warrants criticism? Only a blind pundit would say no. Every player in the league, regardless of position has aspects of their game that warrants criticism, Tua being no different. With that being said… If anyone truly believes Sam Howell or Justin Fields or Tyrod Taylor or any of these aforementioned quarterbacks would as equal to the performance of Tua over the last two years, I just don’t know what can be said. If, and that’s an IF in ginormous capital letters, Tua was Daniel Jones, an extremely mediocre quarterback with an astronomical contract I could see the argument, but the difference between those 2 are night and day. There are quite a few losses we had last season that we all know are attributed to a dumb play called by McDaniel and not because of Tua, right? Does a 4th and 2 in the red zone with a bubble screen thrown to Hill for a stop and fumble returned for a touchdown ring a bell? Point being, it ain’t all Tua.
I Lol'd at Cooper Rush especially. In fact, all of the names on here are laughable minus Howell who I actually think will be a good quarterback in this league. Even so, I might have traded for Howell to be Tua's backup.
If the choice is between now signing Tua to a 5-year $250 million contract or playing one or two of the names on the list as a bridge QB, yes I choose the latter.
If you want complaining, this is nothing. If Tua signs an extension and shows up 20 pounds over weight to throw interceptions and after a Dolphins loss asks the opposing teams QB for a signed jersey you will see complaining from all the Tuanuthuggers here and over at Tuaheaven (formerly named Finheaven) forum.
If you were to read what you just wrote from the perspective of any reasonably mature adult - Tua stan or Tua detractor alike - you would realize how crazy you sound. I am not being hyperbolic. Seek help.
What's your end game with this just terrible suggestion? Go 4-13, waste a year of everyone's time, and hope you draft the next generational quarterback, who is immediately NFL ready, and win 13-14 games right out of the gate? Reality check. That doesn't happen as quite as easy as it does in your Madden video game. Or, do you actually think this offense is just plug and play at the quarterback position, and let's just say Cooper Rush is going to throw for close to 5,000 yards and win 12 games and take them to an AFC Championship game?
Hey now...Coop would have won the SB even with all the injuries to the offense and defense last season.
I'm still not sure if he is trolling or actually believes what he is writing. At this point, I hope for his sake that he is trolling.
Listed below are twelve QB's and their salaries, 11 of which are overpaid and because of it their team will suffer for the next few years. I question why a Miami fan would want the Dolphins to be on this list? 1. Cincinnati Bengals QB Joe Burrow: $55 million 2. Chargers QB Justin Herbert: $52.5 million 3. Ravens QB Lamar Jackson: $52 million 4. Eagles QB Jalen Hurts: $51 million 5. Broncos QB Russell Wilson: $49 million 6. Cardinals QB Kyler Murray: $46.1 million 7. Browns QB Deshaun Watson: $46 million 8. Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes: $45 million 9. Bills QB Josh Allen: $43 million 10. Rams QB Matthew Stafford: $40 million 10. Cowboys QB Dak Prescott: $40 million 10. Giants QB Daniel Jones: $40 million
My "end game" is to have the Dolphins play in the Super Bowl, and for that to happen improvement is needed from the coaching staff and the roster. Why are you hanging your hat on "this offense", which has for two years in a row folded like a cheap suit ?
I know exactly how the cap works, and why so many teams make the mistake of extending and or signing a QB for too many years at too much money. This practice has been failing for years so what I don't know or understand is why so many teams keeping repeating the same mistake.
My point has nothing to do with the salary cap. It's about paying too much money for one position. Teams will improve when the money is more evenly spent throughout the roster.
Becoming more convinced that Tua just throws to who he is told to throw it to. Most QB's could do that. Hard Knocks shows Coach saying I'm going to call play for Waddle, and Tua throws to Waddle. I want Tua to be the man, but I need to see it. You have a point about bad play calling for sure and one cannot argue that.
If it wasn’t about the cap why do you care? Are you inheriting Ross’ money? Lol You were talking about the cap. Don’t move the goalposts because you’re wrong.
Consider: Four years ago, Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, and Mac Jones were all drafted in the first 15 picks and only Lawrence looks like a pro right now. Three of the other four have been traded and Wilson is considered to be an untradeable team cancer. The next year, Kenny Pickett and Desmond Ridder were the first two QBs off the board and both showed so little as starters, their teams traded them. Last season, Carolina sold the farm to trade up for Bryce Young, who has more questions than answers. C.J. Stroud - who was the question mark - is a top-10 QB after one season. Let's not forget that it was 2022's Mr. Irrelevent who took his team to the Super Bowl last season and nearly won league MVP last season. Drafting The Guy is a crap shoot in the best of years (see the aforementioned 2021 draft). Anybody who posits that replacing a QB is as easy as signing another or drafting one is either naive or ignorant to the reality of how things work. To draft a QB who is likely to play well, we'd have to be a bottom 3 team. We did that and fans like OP are unhappy with the one we got. I've got more than a sneaking suspicion they would be whining just as loud about the next one, too.
Timing is elite. But he needs protection to use it. If 2 of our first 3 picks are OL, I'm not complaining at all.
This has got to be the most utterly ludicrous, devoid-of-reality statement I've read here in many years.
I agree. Howell would have made a better #2 than mikewhite, and had we traded for him for that role I could have seen it.
