I'm confused. the playing field on the aircraft carrier would be for pre super-bowl festivities?

 

I like it. Took a major blow in the stadium renovation so why not make it a unique experience to help get the bid. Not the worst plan B in the world

 

It would be a game between SB contenders cheerleaders on a deck of a US Navy ship.Sex is always a good card to play when you are running out of ideas :wink2:

Spoiler

Actually I have no clue but thought it would be a good idea....on second thought a horrible idea with all those sailors around and sexual harrasment charges running rife.

 

A floating brothel?That may work,great idea.The money made would build a new stadium.

 

Well Vikings would be a sho in for the NFC side... even if they don't make it, they will find a way to be their!

 

I find it funny that the venue is now the unquestioned culprit, yet folks keep arguing with me about the dilemma it puts our team and culture in..it's all coming to fruition, exactly how I expected it to..it's too bad too, the stadium itself is in good condition, it was just constructed with the poorest vision I've ever seen, with absolutely no concept of what makes a true home field advantage, and, how debilitating one like ours, (which is the extreme) could hurt a city, two cultures, and two teams..

I don't think the NFL can hold us hostage, however, I wish this city would appreciate their team more, and become a better type of fan inside the building for their team, to make up for the incredibly poor logistics, maybe holding us hostage will wake people up a bit, Ross isn't asking for much, just offering oppurtunity that should be able to be seen..

In my gut, I think Goodell will award the 2nd one to us with or without renovations..keeping it away from us because we don't have a roof is BS, and it's mind blowing how reporters are not up his *** asking why not miami, when your in New York next year..

 

Is this real life?!?

 

Ck, do you think that Goodells threats are real?

 

Whoa.

 

What threats?

 

This is AMAZING.

 

This is more like a circus. :lol:

 

I think he means do you think Dee's threats are real?

 

That not having the renovations increase the risk of not getting a Super Bowl? Do you think these are legitimate reasons to not award a Super Bowl to Miami considering everything else miami brings to the table?

 

Which threats? Mike Dee and Steve Ross seem to be making a lot of them, these days.

 

I think it will affect the Super Bowl awardings, yes. But not as significantly as they implied. They strongly implied that if the renovations don't get done, there will never be another Super Bowl in Miami again. I don't believe that is true at all. I don't believe it for one second.

 

No I meant Goodell..I just wonder how serious he was about not giving us the game because we don't have a freakin roof ya know?, I mean what besides the roof could possibly affect the decision not come here?

 

Kitchens. Kitchens are a big problem with the stadium.

 

Ok, hmmm..

You think it will affect it, but not as significantly", does that mean you think they will punish us once but not twice?

 

If kitchens were the biggest problem as it pertains to making the commish happy then why not take care of that problem yourself?, it can't be much of a cost relatively speaking..buy some new equip...done..

 

Its the size of the kitchens. Not enough room for the equipment.

But again, this isn't necessarily about one or two things. The roof is really important. I know for a fact the kitchens are. The seats as well.

If you fix one of those, do you have a better chance? Sure. But I don't think there is a hard stance on any one issue in particular. In the end, its a competition against other locations. They're going to look at everything Miami has to offer, and compare to what SF has to offer, or Houston, or Arizona, etc. Its like buying a car. One or two features may not make or break a car, but they will have an effect when you're comparing. The biggest problem is that new stadiums keep popping up. It will become harder and harder for Miami to compete.

 

And in regards to doing smaller-scale renovations on Sun Life, thats not going to happen. Financially its a much worse option, because they aren't adding enough value. A canopy doesn't really make Ross money. Taking out a loan for a canopy costs him a lot. If he's taking out more debt, I would think he would want something in return. What Ross appears to be going after is bringing attention to the market and the team. He always talks about being "best in class". Temporary bandaids and high levels of debt aren't best in class.

 

True, no money in it for him unless the venue draws on it's own accord.

 

Here's the thing stringer, the reality is the stadium is fine as is as it relates to having a football game there, it's not a dump, the sight lines are fine, and there's plenty of club suites for the execs at a Super Bowl...

I'm having a hard time understanding Goodell holding us hostage because of some kitchen issues, and the fact that were an outdoor arena?, especially when their holding the next Super Bowl in New York in feb..don't you feel these indirect threats are unethical relative to our issues and what's happening in New York.?

 

Goodell doesn't have a vote in the selection process. I would think the owners would be most interested in whichever site offers them the biggest return. But I could easily see them taking this opportunity to send a shot across the bow of Miami-Dade. Santa Clara and Houston have made significant contributions to the business model the owners are pushing. I'd say the odds are slim and slimmer.

 

Dang. Thought the translucent football-shaped zip line gondolas would put us over the edge...

 

Kitchens????

Please do explain.

 

Can't make high-end food in a McDonalds kitchen.

 

You are correct DJ....

The stadium is fine for all intents and purposes and paired with the location we'll still get Super Bowl's moving forward. So I don't see the need to freak out like many are over this.

This has essentially turned into a petty spat fueled by Goodell wanting to stick to his guns on a knee jerk reaction following the one and only rain inconvenienced Super Bowl that has been held in S. FL.

It's legitimate for new stadiums to win Super Bowl bids so I don't think the awarding of San Francisco over Miami really is that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things.
It should have been expected quite frankly.

Moving forward however will say a lot more about how deep this spat goes.

 

Hi end food for whom?

Are we expecting Filet Mignon being carried by vendors to those sitting in the seats at a Super Bowl or are we just talking options for the Boxes?

 

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/15/3399109/florida-tourism-sets-new-record.html

26 million visitors to Florida in first quarter of 2013, best ever. No split of where the tourists went, but I presume roughly 80% (maybe more) was split between Orlando and South Florida.

And this is without the Super Bowl. We have plenty of tourists and always will, presuming the state isn't eventually underwater.

It's nice to have the SB, but for Miami it doesn't make a huge difference. It's not going to move enough hearts and minds to change the equation.

 

Even for those in regular seats would be getting worse food options at Sun Life as opposed to a new stadium.

But its also a really big deal for the suites and boxes. Keep in mind that almost all of the suites and boxes are going to NFL corporate sponsors, the ones giving the NFL tens of millions every year to advertise through them. These corporate sponsors then often use the suites and boxes to seduce other potential business partners. These are executives of some of the largest corporations in the world. It may seem trivial to a lot of people, but providing an experience that is up to a certain standard is important for the NFL.

 

Yeah, well...the NFL said it, so did Ross, if you don't fix the stadium, you won't get the premium games....shame on the voters who put those idiots in office the didn't give us the right to vote the way we wanted...

 

The tourism industry pretty unanimously favors the new stadium. I think suggesting that the affect on tourism is marginal is pretty off-base IMO. If there is an argument to be had here, its that those that don't benefit from tourism are getting a raw deal.

 

It is marginal, particularly for Miami which draws tourists anyway.

I posted a study a month or so ago about the impact and even in Houston, which has no tourism industry to speak of, the Super Bowl only generated about a third of what the NFL and the bid committe promised. Of course Houston built the stadium to get the team in the first place with the Super Bowl just an ancillary benefit.