Dolphins "open minded" to stadium in Palm Beach

West Palm may be considering to BUILD the stadium. It would Co$t Ross doughnut$ . Then lease it to the Dolphins for $30 yrs. It would insure the future of the ballclub, raise jobs , bring Superbowls, . The Hard Rock Casino already does Uber well in West Palm. We just had the Sunfest. I saw Clapton there last March. Golf Courses, And don't even begin to mention the Indain owned Casinos. They could buy it themselves and lease it to the Phins. HUGE business opportunity Miami will be sorry they let go.

Weatherford will be working in a fast food restaurant by the time Ross is done with him.

"djphinfan wrote:

I wonder if all this stuff is strictly based on giving a wake up call for the Miami fanbase??

What Miami fan base?

It depends where in Palm Beach they are thinking of moving the stadium. Moving to Southern Palm Beach County is not a big move at all. Northern Palm Beach County near West Palm, Jupiter, etc? Well, that is a bigger move. I think there is enough of a fan base to support the team either way, though. Plenty of fans from Palm Beach, Martin, etc come to the games. Those in Collier and Lee might not enjoy the longer drive, however.

I love this idea! I'd be willing to donate the land around my neighborhood.

No matter what happens to the Dolphins, they seriously need some type of shuttle bus between the stadium (Palm Beach or Dade) and the closest Tri-Rail station. I'd be willing to attend more games if so.

"Da 'Fins wrote:

There is no doubt that the population center is further south in the FtL and Miami area. But, the sport fan base in Miami is not geared toward the NFL as much as other sports.

The challenge is actually finding a piece of property and then getting residents to check off on that. Because neighborhoods around stadiums often wind up deteriorating - that could be a tough sell.

but there are also a handful of stadiums situated amidst decent downtown locations (like Coors Field in Denver, below, which ties together for an awesome experience, plus a short walk to Tilted Kilt). I think it'd be great to create a West Palm Beach "City Place" type feel to it where one side of the stadium has its own little downtown full of shopping, eating, bars, entertainment, residences above the shops, and a handful of mid size condos/apt complexes, perhaps all wrapped around a large park with an amphitheater.

"PlanB wrote:

West Palm may be considering to BUILD the stadium. It would Co$t Ross doughnut$ . Then lease it to the Dolphins for $30 yrs. It would insure the future of the ballclub, raise jobs , bring Superbowls, . The Hard Rock Casino already does Uber well in West Palm. We just had the Sunfest. I saw Clapton there last March. Golf Courses, And don't even begin to mention the Indain owned Casinos. They could buy it themselves and lease it to the Phins. HUGE business opportunity Miami will be sorry they let go.

Stop flirting with me!

"dolfan32323 wrote:

It depends where in Palm Beach they are thinking of moving the stadium. Moving to Southern Palm Beach County is not a big move at all. Northern Palm Beach County near West Palm, Jupiter, etc? Well, that is a bigger move. I think there is enough of a fan base to support the team either way, though. Plenty of fans from Palm Beach, Martin, etc come to the games. Those in Collier and Lee might not enjoy the longer drive, however.

Also, finding property could be tough. There are a couple of pieces non-residential land not far from Glen Eagles CC, just west of the turnpike.

That's about 35-40 miles further north.

Wonder why Broward wouldn't be in the mix for a stadium?

"KingMotion wrote:

You'd probably get push-back from the Jags and Bucs. The Marlins worked because they were the only game in town for 5 years.

Probably, but the Dolphins are Florida's original professional sports team. Someone put up a cool "Deal with it" gif for me.

"phinsational wrote:

but there are also a handful of stadiums situated amidst decent downtown locations (like Coors Field in Denver, below, which ties together for an awesome experience, plus a short walk to Tilted Kilt). I think it'd be great to create a West Palm Beach "City Place" type feel to it where one side of the stadium has its own little downtown full of shopping, eating, bars, entertainment, residences above the shops, and a handful of mid size condos/apt complexes, perhaps all wrapped around a large park with an amphitheater.

That's a legit point. If they made it work like that it could be great. It seems baseball stadiums seem to be more the norm for that than football stadiums (perhaps b/c they have fewer seats). Lots of questions about property size; parking; tail-gating; etc.

I do love city stadiums, however. Also, many of those have well-structured public transportation systems. Don't know how that is for Coors field. And, you are also adding about 30,000 more seats for football.

"KingMotion wrote:

Probably in the lease agreement that the name has to remain Miami. I doubt the team would be willing to part with the name.

What lease agreement???

"djphinfan wrote:

Lol..keep sleeping on your dolphins Miami fanbase..better start to educate themselves on the worth of an NFL franchise in your town and how they play in a less than competitive venue, and if you wanna be a player in the game of events.

Lol..miami fan would have to drive two hours for the game..

The Dolphins don't even play in Miami. They play in Miami Gardens, which is about 30 minutes northwest of Miami.

"djphinfan wrote:

"Dee said other people heard Weatherford make the statements the Dolphins contend he said. And I found one of those people on Thursday.

"I was in the room with Mike Dee and Steve Ross and did hear what they heard," South Florida Super Bowl bid committee chairman Rodney Barreto said. "And yes, I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed that the people of Dade County were not given the opportunity to vote and that's a huge disappointment.

"This is a democratic process and were approving nothing more than allowing the people to vote. And I think that's lost in all this finger pointing, that we had an election going on and 40,000 people voted already and they should have had the opportunity to finish that vote."

Sources close to the discussions between the Dolphins and Weatherford say other people also heard Weatherford tell the Dolphins the bill would be heard. One of those persons, according to a source, is Turnberry Associates Principal Jeffrey Soffer.

Soffer, whose company owns portions of the Fountainbleau Hotel and Aventura Mall, was present when Weatherford and the Dolphins spoke on at least one occasion.

Messages left for Soffer at Turnberry Associates have not been returned.""

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2013/05/he-said-she-said-turns-against-florida-speaker.html#storylink=cpy


Dee and Ross might of been pissed off, but I don't think they have done anything since they took over that we shouldn't be able to trust them..

I support the movement to get these renovations done, and if the people of Miami have any common sense, you should support the owner and his vision, even if you can't see that far.

I find it interesting that people who would directly benefit from Ross' proposal are on his side in a he-said-she-said. And by interesting, I mean completely expected and entirely unsurprising.

That said, my sources do tell me that Weatherford made promises in favor of both sides.

I would love to see the Dolphins pick up and move leaving those whiny ass so called fans high and dry.
Go somewhere where people care about football and appreciate having a pro football team.

"Da 'Fins wrote:

That's a legit point. If they made it work like that it could be great. It seems baseball stadiums seem to be more the norm for that than football stadiums (perhaps b/c they have fewer seats). Lots of questions about property size; parking; tail-gating; etc.

I do love city stadiums, however. Also, many of those have well-structured public transportation systems. Don't know how that is for Coors field. And, you are also adding about 30,000 more seats for football.

It would seem that way but Coors Field is on a whopping 76 acres which is significantly larger than many if not most NFL stadiums. For comparison, Soldier Field below sits on just 7 acres.

The parking could be established on the opposite side of the stadium, unobstructed by the mini downtown. University of Phoenix Stadium for instance has an expansive 25 acres for parking, with 8 of those dedicated to tailgating, but that could be significantly scaled down by employing a parking garage and leaving the open landscape for tailgaters.

"phinsational wrote:

but there are also a handful of stadiums situated amidst decent downtown locations (like Coors Field in Denver, below, which ties together for an awesome experience, plus a short walk to Tilted Kilt). I think it'd be great to create a West Palm Beach "City Place" type feel to it where one side of the stadium has its own little downtown full of shopping, eating, bars, entertainment, residences above the shops, and a handful of mid size condos/apt complexes, perhaps all wrapped around a large park with an amphitheater.

right row on the first picture, last building, two tone color, lived in that building for two years, bought it at 190, sold it at 275 two years later, it's worth twice that now.

"Da 'Fins wrote:

There is no doubt that the population center is further south in the FtL and Miami area. But, the sport fan base in Miami is not geared toward the NFL as much as other sports.

The challenge is actually finding a piece of property and then getting residents to check off on that. Because neighborhoods around stadiums often wind up deteriorating - that could be a tough sell.

I was just looking at Google Earth and there appears to be a large wasteland between the Loxahatchee Wildlife area and the Broward County line. It appears to be 5 miles from the Glades Road TP exit. Not sure what's out there but there's definitely no neighborhood.

Put it on the beach

"Desides wrote:

I find it interesting that people who would directly benefit from Ross' proposal are on his side in a he-said-she-said. And by interesting, I mean completely expected and entirely unsurprising.

That said, my sources do tell me that Weatherford made promises in favor of both sides.

That's a good one Des, I guess that makes sense considering how bad I would like a new stadium, however, I think it's a cheap shot, I like the way Ross owns and runs the team, he's generous, he's not nosey on the football side, he wants to win for the right reasons, he buys millions of dollars worth of tickets so the local fanbase can watch it on TV, and he's donating part of his worth to charity.

Tell me why I should not support our owner?, please be specific, this topic specifically?, and since his inception?

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

With Tampa Bay and Jax? Is there any other team that is a state, while having other teams that is named after a city?

NY Jets/Giants, Buffalo Bills...

"SICK wrote:

NY Jets/Giants, Buffalo Bills...

There is a New York City.

Edit: I guess there is a Kansas City, so that would work.

"WhiteIbanez wrote:

I would love to see the Dolphins pick up and move leaving those whiny ass so called fans high and dry.
Go somewhere where people care about football and appreciate having a pro football team.

Leave Miami, or leave Florida?

Does anyone know what the piece of land across I-95 from the Boca Airport is?

SoFlo Dolphins? How is this move going to be paid for IF such a move can be made? What do they do with Sun Life Stadium? Sell it to the U? Based on what Ross receives for selling Sun Life, what proportion of the new stadium will it contribute to?

"Ludacris wrote:

SoFlo Dolphins? How is this move going to be paid for IF such a move can be made? What do they do with Sun Life Stadium? Sell it to the U? Based on what Ross receives for selling Sun Life, what proportion of the new stadium will it contribute to?

Palm Beach county would pay for most of everything.

Sun Life prob sold to someone for ~$75M