Dolphins reportedly ‘want’ to pay Tua Tagovailoa but aren’t sure about his fair market value

Grier likes to play hardball, and it often leads to just a larger contract. If he fails to get a deal done with Tua I'm joining the call for "Grier has to go". On the other hand, if he can get a contract that on paper is larger but has less guaranteed money, or makes it easier for us to move on from Tua if he somehow doesn't pan out, then it's all good.

But it's certainly concerning right now.

 

Even if this plays out horribly and we start over at QB in 2025, I'm willing to see whether Grier lands on his feet. I get the impression that Ross has a lot of influence on his decisions and it's possible that the opportunity cost for not resigning him will result in a better team with a lesser QB. Grier's built a good team and although I'm a Tua fan, I'm willing to see how things play out before putting Grier on the hot seat.

 

The team looks like it's built to win now, or in the next few years. This doesn't look like a multi-year building process. Having to settle with a lesser QB is almost like saying we missed our opportunity. Whether that's really Ross or Grier who knows, but it's a failure based on how the team is built.

 

The opportunity cost I mentioned considers whether the money Tua will command would be better served by being invested in quality depth. We're really deep in several areas on the team and resigning Tua and/or Phillips and/or Holland is going to wreck that significantly. Based on our history since #13, I think it's a smart move to lock up Tua because decent-to-good QBs are hard to find and I'm bearing the scars of the mediocrity we used under center for two decades prior to his arrival.

But I'm pretty sure his extension will cost us Holland and/or Phillips next year. It's possible a Hill extension allows us to resign one of them, but I cannot imagine we're going to keep both. So the question is whether Tua + Phillips or Holland = Phillips and Holland and *mystery QB option* in 2025.

BTW: The fact that we're losing priority free agents every offseason is the reason why I think that Grier -for as infuriating as he is - should not be on the hot seat. You cannot lose good players if you didn't draft them to begin with and thankfully, we're back in the business of using our draft picks again next year. For now.

 

Really hard to win a SB without a very good QB. Just look at the QBs of the SB winning teams last 30 years and you'll see most of them are elite QBs or QBs that played elite that season. I think that trumps the opportunity cost you're referring to.

As far as building from the draft, yes in theory a good idea, but Grier doesn't have a great record there. He's been better with FA.

 

Oh crap, posted the wrong darned video lol

 

Just a reminder for those who say Tua's lack of playoff wins are a reason not to extend him now.

 

And yet the Jets STILL suck! The Dolphins DONT suck…and Sanchez couldn’t carry Tua’s jockstrap.

 

Sanchez is a legend butt, not because of his play-off wins, the Butt Fumble cemented him forever in NFL lore.

 

Wait… did he just say CONTEXT? Hmmmmm

 

Whether you’re a Tua supporter or not, one thing is is undisputedly apparent after the 1st 2 days of camp…the Dolphins CANT win without Tua. The offense has been abysmal with Tua sitting out 11 on 11s.

Grier, if you don’t get this contract done, right quick and in a hurry the team is going to pay the price. Be ready for torches and pitchforks.

 

I laugh when I hear some say our system is Qb friendly.

It is not

 

It really isn’t. Only a handful of quarterbacks in the league could run our system, with Purdy being right at the top of that short list I suspect.

 

Do you know the numbers or specifics about the contract? I actually like that Grier is not doing the same as the Lions. Tua is under contract and if he doesn’t practice, he only will hurt himself. Lamar Jackson didn’t get a contract right away either and he was MVP, lol.
If we don’t make the playoffs this season, it should get warm for everyone around here starting with Grier.

 

Tua fully practiced today. Rumor is a deal could be imminent.

 

It's official. 4 years $212 million extension. $167 guaranteed.

Let's go!

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/tua-tagovail...12-4-million-contract-extension-with-dolphins

 

Oh, by the way...

 

Great news!

 

Closer to kyler Murrays guaranteed money vs the 200m guaranteed deals of lawrence, herbert, etc. Dolphins got their value.

tua got paid, we can all move on forward. Hes the guy for the next half decade

 

Its team friendly, im good with it. As i said in the first page, it was all about the guarantee money and the dolphins got what they wanted

 

"By Grabthar's Hammer, what a savings!"

I would have preferred to see Tua stay healthy for two years in a row before his big payday, but the Super Bowl window is open now and next year.

 

I’ve been saying I would sign that kid too, lots of folks don’t agree because of the lack of starts, but if you’re a GM and you were high on the kid coming out then it makes sense imo

 

Wait, when did our old offensive line coach become a GM???

And it's a steaming CROCK OF **** that Love got a higher deal than Tua. For WHAT? What's a brother gotta do to get a little R-E-S-P-E-C-T around here. I know Tua Ain't perfect. Who is? But if you want to be all about the what have you done for me lately BS how is Love Better Than TUA??? By Any measurable other than a playoff win? And this is what I was saying about that whole "reset the market" argument. Tua "reset the market" for about 3 hours SMH
Just go shove it up all these Kefe Ufa MFers Okole's Tua. The whole world is gonna know your name brah!

And Holy **** what a party are they going to be throwing at Athletes First. They just banked.

 

for me personally it was Tua or love coming out, Tua by a sliver. I think love has shown what I projected at least so I’m sure his GM feels the same.

Don’t care who got paid what, happy that it feels like Tua did indeed to a team friendly deal with his percentage of cap out of the top 10 or right there

 

#11 right now for Tua and percentage of cap

Ty Tua, Let’s go!!!

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story...phins-perfect-money-length-schad/74563727007/

 

Nice to see all the positive vibes surrounding this deal getting done. Now let's stick together and support the team from here on out as a unified fan base. The future is bright... Fins up baby!

 

I would throw up if i were a Packers fan.. if the packers got him a deal similar to Baker Mayfield’s 3 year 100 million id be like okay, thats value.. what did jordan love do in a single half season of quality football to deserve making history? he had a terrible first half where everyone questioned if hes even a capable starter..

 

Four years of data plus college, GM made a good call on his evaluation

 

Bs, it was a projective move based on data for the past four years and the evaluation of college.

If you are the GM and you scouted and drafted him in the first round and you still have a job four years later, and you watched his every practice move, every reaction backing up Roger’s, on the field last year in a starting role, you sign the player to be your franchise Qb.

That’s your job, to evaluate and project your talent.