Dolphins reportedly ‘want’ to pay Tua Tagovailoa but aren’t sure about his fair market value

Paying him that much is crazy, but they think he’s the guy. I do tend to agree, but his play to me hasn’t been at a high level long enough. People will say he won a playoff game, but once again context matters. And if we’re going by wins he’s 9-9.

 

Yeah, Gutekunst and LaFleur have been watching him every practice since he was drafted. They see his potential and last year, they got to see that he wasn't a deer frozen in the headlights when the action started. It was one thing to make the trade that led to A-a-ron's butt being hurt. It was something else to let Rodgers go and give Love the keys to continue the QB run of great play that started with Brett Favre. They were in the same boat that we were in with Tua - you either pay the man or start over and hope for the best. And like Tua's deal, it might no seem good right now, but it's likely to be considered a bargain in two years.

 

The thing with Tua that excites TF out of me is that I don't think he's near his ceiling. He's getting better every season and I believe that will continue this year.

 

This is a great segment of Dan LeBetard's show before the deal was struck yesterday:

 

Right now he did his job based on excellent data from the player and his projection then now and for the future.

I would of done the same

 

It's really only 1 season worth of data, but it's the way last season ended that probably drove his value up.

The last 10 games of the season Love was playing like Aaron Rodgers. He had a 112 rating in those last 10 games with 8 out of 10 having a rating of 108.5 or greater. He had a TD:INT ratio of 21 to 3 in those last 10 games!

Whether that's a good predictor of the future we'll find out, but I think this contract was in large part due to how the season ended. Packers are probably thinking they got the next Aaron Rodgers.

 

Where did you have love coming out ?

I can show you posts about him from me where I was probably higher on him then anyone on the forum or pundits or anywhere else.

Him lasting to the packers is what’s outrageous.

So like I said plenty of time and knowledge of how he conducts himself on and off the field

 

Being a good GM is always gonna be a subjective art form, and part of that is projecting and building a roster, so you base those decisions on your convictions, anyone saying it’s stupid or whatever to sign him frankly is not putting themselves in those shoes, the shoes of a GM who loved him coming out and has loved what he’s seen for the past four years

Tell what’s stupid, letting him become a free agent

 

The Packers used a 1st and 4th to draft Love and essentially that bought them 1 season of work. That's not much return on his rookie contract and they didn't even use his lack of experience as an effective bargaining chip in negotiating this contract.

If they were so convinced Love was the future, why not trade Rodgers earlier and get more in return to build around Love.

Just doesn't seem like they have had a plan at all.

 

"A prophet is not without honor but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house".

 

Most of the people I've heard speaking on it think it was a great deal for Tua and a good deal for the team since it didn't reset the market. LeBatard is the only one that I've seen actually suggest that it would be stupid to back up the Brinks truck. Curiously, he didn't seem to have an alternative toward replacing him and almost seemed to think he would be ultimately forced to take whatever the team proposed. LeBatard's calling him a "system QB" is silly because most of them are in systems that they can run more effectively than others. Besides, the system doesn't make the QB better; a good QB makes the system better.

The thing that nobody wants to admit about Tua in particular is that his value to the Dolphins is greater than it would be on the market - because of the system. Replacing him would be akin to starting a rebuild.

 

You can add that braying donkey Chris Canty to that list. He thinks Miami is going to regret giving him the contract that they did.

I’m going Tua’s route and keeping receipts, lol.

 

There are people who think the NFL works like the Madden franchise.

 

I turn away from Cowherd, Skip Bayless, Emmanuel Acho, and Stephen A. Smith as soon as I see them or hear their voices. Cowherd can't breathe without spewing a hot take, Skip was ready for the old folks home 10 years ago, Acho has the critical thinking skills of a drunken gnat, and Stephen A. is Stephen A.

Literally nothing that either of them has to say is of interest to me because they're in the game for clicks and comments and the best way to get them is to piss people off.

 

I like Acho. I think he’s pretty objective. I don’t agree with him 100%, but there’s no one I agree with 100%. The others you mention are blowhards and not worth the listen.

 

Love to see this

 

Yep. McDaniel is all in on Tua. Actions and words. Now it's up to them to make it work. Hope they're here many more years.

 

McDaniel helped Tua get his second deal and now, Tua needs to return the favor.

 

Its ironic that some of these pundits give McDaniel's system all the credit but the guy who created the system advocates for signing Tua. I wonder who has a better idea on what it takes to run the system?

 

I’ve stopped cowherd since joy left and now they have that lil bi### jet fan as a host

 

Sounds all too familiar lol.

 

Riddick is right. Chris Canty has been hating on Tua for a long time. He was dogging him on his radio show a couple of years ago and last season, had to admit that he was playing well (but with a lot less energy) and never said that he was wrong. If anybody thinks we're going to have the same offense with another guy under center, he's not paying attention. So it's not about what Tua's value is to other teams because his value to the Dolphins is too high to move on without retooling the offense.

Nothing proves that somebody's a hater more than having two Jests fans (Greenie and Bart Scott) saying that he's spewing BS on a Dolphins QB.

 

****ing love Riddick man

Spot on analysis

Finally Tua seemingly has realized he needs to lose weight which will help him be more nimble in the pocket so this jump in performance should be pretty substantial

He’s such a practical learner, I believe on the extreme end

And his elite traits are just that, I don’t think anyone can run this offense like Tua

 

Where are those folks that were saying don’t pay Tua ??
Hmm, that’s peculiar..

 

I think the question always was, will the team be able to keep elite talent around Tua if he gets a big-time contract? If they can, I would expect Tua to do well.

 

We know Tua made chicken salad out of you know what during his early years as well, let’s not forget

 

Well, this is gonna ruin some of our board members' gaming experience:

 

Again you guys are far more enamored with his first couple seasons than I am. That's all I'll say about that.

 

If they flipped Dak and Tua it would have been a little more realistic.

 

Tua was hot garbage for most of his first two years.... Dude looked overmatched. If Howard and the D didn't create an abnormal amount of turnovers his record would have been far worse..
Never thought Tua would blossom in to a superstar but he has - But let's not sugar coat his tenure under Flores. It wasn't all that good, most likely due to Flores rushing him (he should have sat his entire rookie year, Fitzpatrick was doing awesome and he needed more time to heal)

 

Enamored is a big word.

All qbs should be evaluated in the same curve, then take into account their weapons and coaching.

I wasn’t blown away because I knew he should of been on the bench his first year