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Dolphins to play HARDBALL. Martin to go on NFI.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Section126, Nov 5, 2013.

  1. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Martin will be placed on the NFI (Non-Football Illness List)

    Abramson of the PBP got wind of this and it is being released by the Fins within the hour
     
  2. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    I don't know how I feel about this. I rather not have there be any more trouble. I feel doing this is going to make it uglier.
     
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  3. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    At least we know a 30 for 30 will be produced about the topic in the next few years...
     
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  4. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    I would guess the front office has their ducks in a row on this one, and are ready for the lawsuit.
     
  5. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    and I have it on a pretty good source...they will attempt to recover 500k of his signing bonus.
     
  6. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Aponte - She Devil. No Mercy.
     
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  7. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Awesome. The talking heads have already made up their minds about the fault of the organization. Time to fight back.
     
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  8. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    If they're doing this then they must know something we don't.
     
  9. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm not sure if this is hardball.

    What else were they supposed to do? The guy voluntarily left the facility and told them he doesn't know when he's coming back. He left the team for non-football reasons. Is there some other designation that applies to a situation like this?

    could they simply deactivate him the rest of the season? I get that he'd be paid in this instance.

    I'm actually not sure what the lawsuit is. Incognito is gone. At the very least, they've begun to demonstrate that they are making the workplace safe. At this point, if he doesn't want to return to work, I think it's on him.

    And I appreciate Martin's situation, that it would be brutal to come back right now, but it certainly seems to me that the Fins have made an accomodation
     
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  10. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    sims or jordan?
     
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  11. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't see 500k being worth the media attention and backlash. Act sympathetic towards Martin, honor his contract and move on citing any number of feel good notions about caring about him off the field, etc. At this point he has the public in his back pocket and the media too, its a lose lose situation over 500k.....move on.
     
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  12. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Sounds to me...they have a good feeling this was a money grab.

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  13. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Given the teams past inability to properly articulate their position, especially under Ross, it may not matter. The media is circling like vultures and I don't think we have the PR staff or leadership to make a strong case.

    While I applaud the organization for taking a stance, I fear that the backlash will be impossible to contain, even if the team is 100% correct.
     
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  14. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Damn you're fast.
     
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  15. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    What fighting back?

    They've acknowledged they have a problem and have asked the NFL to investigate.

    Why they would dick around over $500K I'll never understand. The goal should be to make this problem disappear as quickly as possible.
     
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  16. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    So why don't you donate the 500K since it's chump change to you?
    And don't get me wrong there is a risk of additional backlash as I detailed above, but still, I applaud this act based on principle.
     
  17. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    Yup sounds like they have a smoking gun perhaps llllliiikkkee martins responses to Richie?
     
  18. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    [​IMG]
     
  19. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    That means he doesn't get paid correct?
     
  20. Rocky Raccoon

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    I'm with schmolioot here. The play here should be to make this go away as fast and best as possible. Fighting over $500k will make this worse.
     
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  21. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Oh grow up man.

    $500K is chump change in the grand scheme of things to the organization. And what is to be gained by all this? At best, we had an entire team full of vile a-holes instead of just one vile a-hole. that's not a big improvement
     
  22. Robert Horry

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    What kind of response is this? This sounds like a childish reply.

    Both sides have warrant to them. I can see why the Dolphins want $500k back. Its not about the monetary reasons, but rather making a statement. The other side has a point too. Its a 100 + million dollar organization. 500k is nothing.
     
  23. SICK

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    Or the original statement Richie was responding toooooooooooooooooooo.......or like ****ing photos of Martin stealing a teammates car, or hanging with Richie 3 weeks ago, or driving go karts together?! Or a instagram pic of Martin getting a #68 tattoo on his ***
     
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  24. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    If it's a money grab then **** him he shouldn't get a dime. There's certainly some evidence to make that a possibility.
     
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  25. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    So bend over, pay the guy for intentionally misleading the team and also assume greater liability once the lawsuit comes?
    Perhaps this is more of an offensive strategy to send a message to the Martin family that they are not going to have a cakewalk against the team, despite the media fueled hysteria they helped manufacture.
     
  26. unluckyluciano

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    Or your face being bullied by my fists. All the stuff you mention is already being ignored. They would need a show stopper
     
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  27. Rocky Raccoon

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    His contract yeah, $500K though? Not worth it man.
     
  28. Section126

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    not a dime.
     
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  30. unluckyluciano

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    If they do you can bet it's about repairing the brand. Not the money
     
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  31. ckparrothead

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    The Dolphins' position in this is that Richie Incognito acted inappropriately and they took the correct course of action once they were made aware of it, but that the workplace environment has very little (i.e. nothing) to do with Jonathan Martin's current mental breakdown.

    And they're probably 100% correct.
     
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  32. Rocky Raccoon

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    And truthfully I love the Dolphins having balls to play hard ball. But in this case? It's not worth it.
     
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  33. slickj101

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    Why? Bc of what the media will say? **** them and **** him.

    Accuses people of bullying in order to try to bully us in to paying him (hypothetically). lol **** that noise.
     
  34. HeelsnPhins

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    I guess they are refusing to be bullied by Martin's PR team :tongue2:
     
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  35. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    If I were the Phins...and they have info now that Martin has been playing them...Id also want to make those ripping the organization right now end up with mud on their face

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  36. Rocky Raccoon

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    It's so cute when you put on high-heeled shoes and act tough. Can I take a picture for the refrigerator?
     
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  37. Robert Horry

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    I don't understand this reply.

    The answer to bullying is to hit them? Why would you encourage this here but not at a business place like a biotech company or law firm? Do you suggest people there to punch another co-worker in this face if they are being harassed?

    I'm not supporting Martin or Incognito until I hear the facts. But people responding that he should of "hit back" or "man up" is confusing. This would not be acceptable for one second in other professional work environments. However, I don't know if I believe if its the Dolphins workplace for the breakdown or just Incognito being an asshat and Martin breaking down.
     
  38. finyank13

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    Do it.....

    But why not just cut him? They would still be on the hook for this year's loot also the guaranteed portion if they haven't already paid that out right?
     
  39. Rocky Raccoon

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    Trust me I hope you're right. We better have a hell of a case though.
     
  40. PhinsRDbest

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    Not saying it's right, but usually big orginazations pay settlements to avoid court even if they can win.
     

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