Dolphins trying to trade Justin Smiley

If traded, any idea what we would get in return as far as draft choice?

 

Mid-Third early fourth. Guy can't stay healthy although he's a great player.

 

I agree, he is a good football player but his repeated injuries hamper his potential. After all, you must be PLAYING to make good plays.

I wonder what they will do with the another draft pick?

 

I love the idea...on board with it....he will get back probably a 4/5th....if we get a 3rd take it and run...

 

Not a good enough ratio plays per dollar.

 

We will use that pick on Suh. Well i wish it worked like that.

 

If we can get a 3rd or high 4th I say do it. If not, he's probably more valuable keeping.

 

It's really too bad, He is a terrific guard. It's unfortunate he can't stay healthy enough.

 

Keep in mind how little we got for Satele. We need not get our hopes up.

 

Or he could be packaged on draft day(s) for picks or to move up or down...Lots of possibilities, but I still wonder why they announced it to the world at this point ?? Seems to always degrade the value of a player. He is, however, financially a good option for some other team...his bonuses have all been paid...

 

and they told him not even to show up to OTA's too......which is weird no??

 

This is suprising. I've met Justin a couple times, he's a great guy. He's great when healthy.

 

Giants could be a trading partner, they need guards.....the article says there are several teams interested....I hops so...

 

I read a post on the other site from a guy who ran into Yemiah Bell and Smiley at the airport last night that Smiley told him that he was traded to Seattle. I don't know if this is true but the guy did post this last night before this Smiley stuff came up.

 

for the 6th overall?? .....imagine the 3rd round though....very early 3rd round pick....I see more of the 4 if that is in fact the team...

 

He could be a piece of the rebuilding process now worth trading because we've "upgraded" the spot, but until the spot shows consistency this move makes me a little nervous. He's great when he plays, which as others stated, is part of the issue.

I'm still more nervous about it because the pick doesn't help us this year. When healthy Smiley is good.

 

Dimitri, Incognito & the Donald will compete

 

I think we could get a third out of him.

 

They don't want him to get hurt walking in.

No way. He's too injured. A third rd pick is a full time starter.

 

Smiley to Seattle and swap #1 picks

WITH THE #6 PICK OF THE 2010 NFL DRAFT
THE MIAMI DOLPHINS SELECT
FREE SAFETY ERIC BERRY

 

Ireland is tight lipped on this....read the last line of the article...NOOOOOOO!!!!

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/

 

Interesting. Our best guard but always injured.

Guy can't stay healthy

he is a good football player but his repeated injuries hamper his potential.

It's unfortunate he can't stay healthy enough.

These previous statements posters have made could have been said about Jake Grove

Smiley has missed 13 games in 6 nfl seasons while
Grove has missed 30 games in his 6 nfl seasons

so ask yourself the question,Who really is the injury prone player?

 

From Mando.....although knowing him these teams are probably deep at guard....

Among teams that need interior linemen thus could be interested in Justin Smiley are Atlanta, Seattle, Cincinnati and San Francisco.

 

I was going to say Miamiron, if Smiley is a problem Grove is a bigger one.

 

Obviously, the source he has says we are dangling Smiley for trade, but the source likely did not interject that last blurb... It's pretty obvious that one of the options, if we cannot trade him, is to cut him. It's another to speculate, as Mando did, that is the only option...

 

Is this going to be another Matt Roth debacle, I wonder......

 

I'd be surprised if we get a third, but I hope so. At least a high fourth or even a conditional pick next year based on games played and/or started.

 

Doubtful, we were Roth's only team. Smiley has been with a few other teams and has been injury prone there as well. It is a reoccurring pattern.

Thought: The report that came out a bit earlier saying the team was a bit divided on the Incognito signing; how much more do you think that locker room becomes divided when smiley is booted and Incognito replaces him? I imagine Justin is pretty respected in the locker room.

 

Maybe they are cutting salary to get Brandon Marshall......

 

I'd be surprised if Smiley could pass a physical.

Roth was injury prone most of the time he was here. Played 2 of his seasons with that groin injury hampering him and then of course the debacle last offseason.

People will stop complaining about Roth when his groin acts up and knocks him out again.

 

Well a couple of thoughts:

If we manage to trade him it would clear salary to sign Jeanty or maybe help with signing Sharper.

And meet my boi:




Dimitri Tsoumpas CFL All Star Guard.

Dude is just a professional Olineman.

Maybe the CFL is the "new' USFL?

FWIW...I really liked Justin Smiley, imho he was the coolest of the dolphins Olinemen from what I've watched and listened to over the past two seasons.

 

My thinking is that the front office is desperate for assets to apply to the defense. I was right that the Incognito signing was not a slap on Donald Thomas. If this story holds any validity, then I think it's safe to assume that Thomas is secured as a starting guard.

Now some speculation...

It's pretty clear that this regime likes to double up on needs in the draft. (See: Merling/Langford, Murhpy/Thomas, Davis/Smith, Turner/Harline, Hilliard/Parmale) With the great need at OLB, I would expect this same strategy this year.

I see round one going FS or WR. Assuming we get a 3rd for Smiley, we can then go OLB, NT, OLB in rounds 2 and 3. At this point we have address 4 major needs, leaving TE and the remaining WR/FS hole that wasn't filled in round 1. We can take a shot at a TE in round 4 and sign Brandon Marshall. Team complete.

 

If the Seahawks rumor is true I'm thinking it's a 4th rounder...possibly their higher one as they have 2 4th's in this draft.

 

To me, the Seachickens part with Lofu Tatupu, Smiley's contract number is slightly less than his, and David Hawthorne played as well, if not better, than Lofu did when healthy at the price of a mid round draft pick contract.

Of course, that would mean Reggie Torbor would then be on the bubble, but if released he would free up an additional 2.8 million or so.

Smiley for Tatupu would be a push, but it would allow us to free up Reggie Torbor's contract, which is sort of how Ireland does things.

 

I just hope whoever plays keep the same level and even more talent to this line....so Pads, lets say Smiley gets dealt, I would think Incognito gets the first crack at LG no?? then you let Dimitri, Thomas, and Garner battle it out for RG.....oh and Murtha too......we could see Dimitri at RG u know??

FYI..........the thought of Long and Incognito playing side by side makes me feel funny in areas...

 

With what next years first??? I dont think Denver goes for that.....

 

Incognito (recall the Sparano one paisan per yr rule?) is just not that good of a player FY, his last two seasons he has been subpar.

To me, they really like Nate Garner and he will have a leg up to start as he can play either guard slot, Thomas, Incognito, Tsoumpas and Berger all in the mix, Incognito has alot to lose as his contract is disposable, Thomas..not sure on.

Berger could start, with Incognito becoming the back up Center/Guard leaving Thomas and Tsoumpas to duke it out for reserve G.
Tsoumpas at least has Practice Squad eligibility.

 

Huh, I thought we might deal a Guard when Incognito signed, but I thought it would be Garner or Thomas going. If we can't get a very high fourth rounder, or preferably a third rounder for Smiley though, I say we keep him.

Although, as some mentioned, he could be ammo for moving up in the draft, maybe package him with our second rounder to get back into the late first round for a player they really like?

Seattle does not have a third rounder to give BTW. I think Totupu is to small to play in a 3-4 too. I do like him as a player, but he make a better strong safety for us and Bell has that covered already.

 

i dont think they have a choice!