Draft Empire mock 12/24/08

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JIjim1New MemberOP
Dec 27, 2008, 08:10 AM

1. Detroit Lions (0-15) – Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma

2. St. Louis Rams (2-13) – Andre Smith, OT, Alabama

3. Kansas City Chiefs (2-13) – Matt Stafford, QB, Georgia

4. Cincinnati Bengals (3-11-1) – Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia

5. Seattle Seahawks (4-11) – Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech

*24. Miami Dolphins (10-5) – Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma

Draft Empire - 2009 NFL Mock Draft December 24, 2008

BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 27, 2008, 09:39 AM

If the best DT in college football comes out as a redshirt sophomore and he lasts to the 24th pic, I'll be staggered. And at 292lbs, I'll be even more staggered if he's Miami's pick.

Andre Smith at 2. Man these mocks are funny.

I am the sweat not the swagger.

ConuficusConuficusluxury_box
Dec 27, 2008, 09:46 AM

"Boomer wrote:

If the best DT in college football comes out as a redshirt sophomore and he lasts to the 24th pic, I'll be staggered. And at 292lbs, I'll be even more staggered if he's Miami's pick.

Andre Smith at 2. Man these mocks are funny.

Smith is the media darling isn't he?

Clint Sintim wasn't in the first round at all and as for Heyward-Bey being drafted before Knowshon Moreno...........I would have to question that one. Talent wise, to me, there is no comparison.

BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 27, 2008, 12:29 PM

"Conuficus wrote:

Smith is the media darling isn't he?

Clint Sintim wasn't in the first round at all and as for Heyward-Bey being drafted before Knowshon Moreno...........I would have to question that one. Talent wise, to me, there is no comparison.

Moreno is the best back in the draft IMO. Although I have an awful lot of time for Glen Coffee.

As for Smith being the media darling; he truly is. Not that I'm at a ratings stage, but I'd have to say that of the top 8 tackles, he's maybe 6th on my list.

Looking forward to seeing Garrett Reynolds plays against Jason Worilds this evening.

I am the sweat not the swagger.

ConuficusConuficusluxury_box
Dec 27, 2008, 12:56 PM

Reynolds is vastly underrated.

ALalen1New Member
Dec 27, 2008, 12:57 PM

Watching the FAU - C. Michigan game last night, I liked C. Michigan's LT # 74. Hartline I think his name is. He played well last night, got to the second level if memory serves me right.

ConuficusConuficusluxury_box
Dec 27, 2008, 01:04 PM

Brian Hartline isn't it?

He is a good player. Needs to show same ability at the all star games, otherwise the level of comp will follow him around.

ALalen1New Member
Dec 27, 2008, 01:06 PM
ALalen1New Member
Dec 27, 2008, 01:19 PM

What a great play by Hakeem Nicks. Uses his head to fend off the defender and then displays full concentration despite ball being tipped and finishes off with strength. He's not too shabby of a blocker either.

EDIT: There he goes again! Displaying the YAC and the strength.

ALalen1New Member
Dec 27, 2008, 02:00 PM

If there's a better wide receiver prospect that uses his head to get open on routes, I haven't seen him.

BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 27, 2008, 02:01 PM

"Conuficus wrote:

Reynolds is vastly underrated.

I agree. We talk up all these fancy dans like Oher and Jason Smith and Monroe and Britton but Reynolds is down and dirty and rugged and hard nosed. Didn't do his cause any good when he fell on his keester on Hakeem Nick's first touchdown, but still.

I am the sweat not the swagger.

BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 27, 2008, 02:03 PM

"alen1 wrote:

If there's a better wide receiver prospect that uses his head to get open on routes, I haven't seen him.

Three things that really stand out for me with Nicks are: route running and the way he sets up corners with his shoulders and head; his speed - he's a long strider and covers the ground really quickly for a big man; and his hands. He's a hand catcher with great concentration.

He's a fabulous player. Now if we were going WR in the late part of round 1, I'd be thrilled to take him. Thrilled.

I am the sweat not the swagger.

ALalen1New Member
Dec 27, 2008, 02:09 PM

"Boomer wrote:

Three things that really stand out for me with Nicks are: route running and the way he sets up corners with his shoulders and head; his speed - he's a long strider and covers the ground really quickly for a big man; and his hands. He's a hand catcher with great concentration.

He's a fabulous player. Now if we were going WR in the late part of round 1, I'd be thrilled to take him. Thrilled.

Absolutely and those three stand out in this game. He's a very good player. Now I haven't noticed it yet but the analysts are saying he doesn't cover up the ball and has had some fumbling issues this year. I haven't seen them though.

ALalen1New Member
Dec 27, 2008, 02:13 PM

Also, Pat White has thrown some mighty good deep balls today. He stepped up in the pocket when pressured and delivered a beautiful pass over the DB on the third touchdown I believe it is. It'll be something to watch if or when he takes part in the quarterback drills at the practices and/or combine.

And as soon as I say this, he throws an interception. Have to look off the coverage man, that's the second time I've seen him do it today.

pocolocopocolocosubscriber
Dec 27, 2008, 02:31 PM

frankly, if Laurinaitis is there by the time we pick, I have a hard time Ireland-Parcells would pass on a multiple year all-american linebacker. He's as proven as they come in this draft.

BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 27, 2008, 03:04 PM

"alen1 wrote:

Absolutely and those three stand out in this game. He's a very good player. Now I haven't noticed it yet but the analysts are saying he doesn't cover up the ball and has had some fumbling issues this year. I haven't seen them though.

I didn't like the way he held up the ball at the 10 yard line after the tip on the 1st touchdown. Loved the strength he showed to score, but in the NFL, that's a forced fumble and the defences ball.

I am the sweat not the swagger.

ALalen1New Member
Dec 27, 2008, 03:04 PM

What a grab.

VendigoVendigosubscriber
Dec 27, 2008, 03:05 PM

"pocoloco wrote:

frankly, if Laurinaitis is there by the time we pick, I have a hard time Ireland-Parcells would pass on a multiple year all-american linebacker. He's as proven as they come in this draft.

There's some valid concern that Laurinaitis is a way better college baller than NFL prospect. Parcells and Ireland fell into that trap already with Bobby Carpenter. I don't think they'll make the same mistake twice.

We can forgive a man for making a useful thing as long as he does not admire it. The only reason for making a useless thing is that one admires it intensely. All art is quite useless.

ALalen1New Member
Dec 27, 2008, 03:05 PM

"Boomer wrote:

I didn't like the way he held up the ball at the 10 yard line after the tip on the 1st touchdown. Loved the strength he showed to score, but in the NFL, that's a forced fumble and the defences ball.

Yes, I saw that. Reminded me of DeSean Jackson's antics in Philadelphia. I thought they were referring to something else?

BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 27, 2008, 03:07 PM

"pocoloco wrote:

frankly, if Laurinaitis is there by the time we pick, I have a hard time Ireland-Parcells would pass on a multiple year all-american linebacker. He's as proven as they come in this draft.

He's had a pretty mediocre senior year, he has horrible issues getting off blocks at times and on release, he has really lacked the footspeed to get outside. I thought earlier in the year that he might get moved to WLB in a 4-3, but that lack of game film foot speed worries the heck out of me.

A possible MLB I forgot to mention was of course Brian Cushing, who will be closely monitored. Can't consider Aaron Curry because he'll be long gone, despite his ability to play in or out.

I am the sweat not the swagger.

BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 27, 2008, 03:08 PM

"alen1 wrote:

What a grab.

Just had a bath with the kids and put them to bed so haven't seen anything since the end of the first quarter. Also have Call of Duty 5 boxfresh downstairs on the X-Box, so the games are taping!

I am the sweat not the swagger.

ALalen1New Member
Dec 27, 2008, 03:10 PM

"Boomer wrote:

Just had a bath with the kids and put them to bed so haven't seen anything since the end of the first quarter. Also have Call of Duty 5 boxfresh downstairs on the X-Box, so the games are taping!

:lol:

The ball was thrown behind Nicks so he reached back, grabbed it, put it behind his back and switched to the other hand then finally getting a first down after he shedded a tackle.

VendigoVendigosubscriber
Dec 27, 2008, 03:12 PM

"Boomer wrote:

Just had a bath with the kids and put them to bed so haven't seen anything since the end of the first quarter. Also have Call of Duty 5 boxfresh downstairs on the X-Box, so the games are taping!

Sky Sports, Sky Sports, a kingdom for Sky Sports.

We can forgive a man for making a useful thing as long as he does not admire it. The only reason for making a useless thing is that one admires it intensely. All art is quite useless.

ALalen1New Member
Dec 27, 2008, 03:13 PM

"Vendigo wrote:

Sky Sports, Sky Sports, a kingdom for Sky Sports.

Setanta is the best for fudbal. The real football. :yes:

VendigoVendigosubscriber
Dec 27, 2008, 03:14 PM

"alen1 wrote:

Setanta is the best for fudbal. The real football.

I already get the real football on free TV :yes:

We can forgive a man for making a useful thing as long as he does not admire it. The only reason for making a useless thing is that one admires it intensely. All art is quite useless.

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