1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Draft Help Needed

Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by Boomer, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. Boomer

    Boomer Premium Member Luxury Box

    22,623
    50,064
    113
    Nov 30, 2007
    OK so I'm doing this draft with 31 other writers where you build a franchise from scratch using the players in the league today. Two starting units........here's who's been picked and I was about to take Dez Bryant and he went one pick before. http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2013-rsp-football-writers-project/writers-project-draft-room/

    I want good receivers and tight ends, can build an OL later, press corners, fast front seven that can play 34 and 43. I'm on the clock now with Sam Bradford and Revis my first two picks. I could lock down corner with an Amukamara or Casey Hayward, take en end like Dunlap, or Witten or Hernandez and I love Hakeem Nicks and Randall Cobb and Crabtree in the slot. But would be happy later with Antonio Brown, Hartline, Mo Sanu, those types. You can see who's been taken.......I'm also strongly considering Daryl Washington as he's perfect for the defense I want to run. What'd ya think??!!
     
    finyank13 likes this.
  2. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

    72,252
    43,684
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    Vincent jackson
     
  3. Boomer

    Boomer Premium Member Luxury Box

    22,623
    50,064
    113
    Nov 30, 2007
    Wrong side of thirty for Jackson
     
  4. jim1

    jim1 New Member

    5,902
    3,054
    0
    Jul 1, 2008
    Mike Williams TB
    Cam Wake
    Dashon Gholston/Donte Whitner
    Aldon Smith
    Gronk/Hernandez
    JJ Watt
    Von Miller
    Marcel Dareus
    Brian Cushing on the cheap after injury
    Sean Lee see above
    Joe Haden
    Josh Gordon
    Ryan Kerrigan
    Patrick Peterson
     
  5. Boomer

    Boomer Premium Member Luxury Box

    22,623
    50,064
    113
    Nov 30, 2007
    Wake, Aldon, Peterson, Haden, Dareus, Von, Watt and Gronk have gone.
     
  6. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

    72,252
    43,684
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    So? Its not real and probably based on only this coming year's production.
     
  7. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    It would help if you cut-and-pasted your big board of your ranked players remaining. I can't keep it straight in my head who is taken and who remains without spending like 30 minutes compliing lists, so if you already have one can we all work off that?
     
    BuckeyeKing likes this.
  8. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

    25,411
    5,743
    113
    Dec 6, 2007
    Daryl Washington.
     
  9. Boomer

    Boomer Premium Member Luxury Box

    22,623
    50,064
    113
    Nov 30, 2007
    I'm thinking either Washington or Casey Hayward
     
  10. Boomer

    Boomer Premium Member Luxury Box

    22,623
    50,064
    113
    Nov 30, 2007
    Although I don't pick again for about forty picks, I suspect Washington might still be there. Hayward not so much and neither Hernandez or Witten. Casey can play inside or outside and was according to PFF the best corner metrically in the NFL last season.
     
  11. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

    25,411
    5,743
    113
    Dec 6, 2007
    Washington gives you flexibility. I think he is a LB that play any spot. Risky to let him go in favor of a corner. What kind of corner can you get in round 4?
     
  12. Boomer

    Boomer Premium Member Luxury Box

    22,623
    50,064
    113
    Nov 30, 2007
    Probably a good one. But it's a passing league and some guy has drafted Julio Jones, Demaryius Thomas and Dez Bryant in rounds one two and three!
     
  13. jim1

    jim1 New Member

    5,902
    3,054
    0
    Jul 1, 2008
    Kyle Wilson- talented, maybe Revis being shown the door is a reflection on him

    Carlos Dunlap
    Michael Johnson
    Richard Sherman (sans mouth)
    Navorro Bowman
    AJ Green
    Julio Jones
    LeSean Mccoy
    JPP
    Geno Atkins
    Earl Thomas
    maybe Rashard Mendenhall on the cheap
    Ryan Matthews
    Brandon Pettigrew
    Kam Chancellor
    Reshad Jones
    Torrey Smith/Jimmy Smith
     
  14. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

    25,411
    5,743
    113
    Dec 6, 2007
    Corner the QB Market lol.

    What about Cortland Finnegan?
     
  15. Boomer

    Boomer Premium Member Luxury Box

    22,623
    50,064
    113
    Nov 30, 2007
    Older and not as good as Hayward. I'm picking between these two I think. Do I go for the ultra fast playmaker linebacker who can do it all and play any system or the stud young corner who can play press on the outside or work the slot with a real nose for the football and great ball skills opposite Darrelle Revis?
     
  16. jim1

    jim1 New Member

    5,902
    3,054
    0
    Jul 1, 2008
    Bobby Wagner
     
  17. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

    25,411
    5,743
    113
    Dec 6, 2007
    Man tough choice. If they go based off a passing league chances are corners and WR will be gobbled up. Go with Heyward but don't expect Washington to make it.


    Tim Jennings as a 4th round target?
     
    Boomer likes this.
  18. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

    42,442
    24,982
    113
    Jul 6, 2012
    NC
    Does cap hit matter?
     
  19. Boomer

    Boomer Premium Member Luxury Box

    22,623
    50,064
    113
    Nov 30, 2007
    Nope. Its all about the stallions.
     
  20. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

    79,599
    159,162
    113
    Dec 1, 2007
    Frick we need a horizontal board here so we can see who is left. You don't have a pass rusher, correct? You also don't have a WR.

    WRs...Michael Crabtree (25), Hakeem Nicks (25), Randall Cobb (22), Victor Cruz (26), Vincent Jackson (30), Roddy White (31)

    Pass Rushers...Chris Long (27), Carlos Dunlap (23), Justin Houston (22), Greg Hardy (23), Tamba Hali (29)
     
  21. Boomer

    Boomer Premium Member Luxury Box

    22,623
    50,064
    113
    Nov 30, 2007
    Or Justin Houston???
     
  22. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Tony Gonzalez, if this is a best team today sort of thing, not a best team for the future.

    I know you said no Oline but Jahri Evans could be good value here.
     
  23. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

    25,411
    5,743
    113
    Dec 6, 2007
    Cobb is another interesting piece. That is a tough choice. Good luck with that Boom.
     
  24. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Carlos Rogers?
     
  25. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

    42,442
    24,982
    113
    Jul 6, 2012
    NC
    Geno Atkins
    Victor Cruz



    I know I'd look at Zach Brown, Kendall Reyes, and Fletcher Cox in a few rounds as hopeful bargains since you're looking for versatility.
    Barwin later on, too?
     
  26. Boomer

    Boomer Premium Member Luxury Box

    22,623
    50,064
    113
    Nov 30, 2007
    No, no descending list. Figure I can go offensive line and tailback later on. Want to get a Packers style passing offense, good slot like Cobb or Crabtree. Bradford at QB so intermediate threats like Nicks is perfect. Lockdown defensive backfield with man cover corners and very fast attacking front seven that could play 34 or 43. So Houston could do what Cam Wake did when we played 34 and Washington could play WLB in a 43 or ILB in a 34.
     
    BuckeyeKing likes this.
  27. Boomer

    Boomer Premium Member Luxury Box

    22,623
    50,064
    113
    Nov 30, 2007
    Atkins gone.
     
  28. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

    25,411
    5,743
    113
    Dec 6, 2007
    Its all about quality players. What is going to be the most difficult position to fill?
     
  29. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

    42,442
    24,982
    113
    Jul 6, 2012
    NC
    Chandler Jones to think about over the next few rounds, too. Bruce Irvin.

    Janoris Jenkins & Stephon Gilmore
     
    Boomer likes this.
  30. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

    79,599
    159,162
    113
    Dec 1, 2007
    I think if you're going wide receiver, my preference is probably Hakeem Nicks. I still have a soft spot for him. He's produced 3.68 yards per pass snap from the slot in his career while ALSO producing 2.04 yards per pass snap from the perimeter. That's the difference between he and Crabtree. Crabtree has the same slot number or thereabouts but only 1.30 yards per pass snap from the perimeter in 2012.

    Nicks is a proven touchdown-maker, too. He has that "at all costs" attitude when he gets close to the end zone...he's proven it with 31 touchdowns.
     
  31. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

    42,442
    24,982
    113
    Jul 6, 2012
    NC
    I thought Houston benefitted greatly by having Tyson Jackson occupying blockers in front of him.
     
    ckparrothead likes this.
  32. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

    25,411
    5,743
    113
    Dec 6, 2007
    Wouldn't WR be easy to fill?
     
  33. Boomer

    Boomer Premium Member Luxury Box

    22,623
    50,064
    113
    Nov 30, 2007
    I love Nicks too, Chris. I think I can get good receivers later on. I suspect ten corners might go between me and my next pick. Washington and Houston probably will too.
     
  34. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

    42,442
    24,982
    113
    Jul 6, 2012
    NC
    Could get a bargain on Cecil Shorts in a couple rounds.... maybe Blackmon or Kendall Wright, too.
     
  35. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

    79,599
    159,162
    113
    Dec 1, 2007
    If you're going to go with WR I say Hakeem Nicks.

    If you're going to go DE I say Greg Hardy.

    1. He plays RDE and I think that's important, in terms of team building
    2. He was the best performer this year, scored extremely high in both run stopping and pass rush success.

    We always knew Greg Hardy had incredible potential, since we started following him a year or two before he came out. We just didn't know if he was a psychopath or not. He's kept his nose clean in the NFL and at 23 years old he's already got pass rush efficiency numbers that approach the best pass rushers. Highest Pass Rush Production number from the RIGHT side in the entire NFL amongst DEs. Only Aldon Smith was better from the right side amongst 3-4 OLBs. This was the first season they had Hardy focus solely on playing Right End.
     
    Boomer and ToddPhin like this.
  36. Boomer

    Boomer Premium Member Luxury Box

    22,623
    50,064
    113
    Nov 30, 2007
    I think I can get Hardy in a round or two. That's my issue.
     
  37. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

    79,599
    159,162
    113
    Dec 1, 2007
    You've already got Darrelle Revis. I feel like you can get a Kareem Jackson later on and be just fine there. Hell or a Chris Harris who was a stellar performer in Denver this year.

    I don't think you need to plump for that second corner so soon. I'd want to start getting a keystone wide receivers or a keystone pass rusher. Hakeem Nicks and Greg Hardy are they.
     
    ToddPhin likes this.
  38. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    CBs: Casey Heyward (as you noted), Johnathan Joseph, Cortland Finnegan, Janoris Jenkins,
    WRs:Anquan Boldin, Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Wes Welker, Mo Sanu (as you noted), T.Y. Hilton, Justin Blackmon, Josh Gordon,
    DEs: Bruce Irvin, Dwight Freeney, Julius Peppers, Quinton Coples, Chandler Jones
    TEs: Gonzo, Dwayne Allen,

    LBs: Luke Keuchly stands out as being available, as does Bobby Wagner,

    OTs for later: Jahri Evans, Mitchell Schwartz
     
  39. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

    79,599
    159,162
    113
    Dec 1, 2007
    I don't think you can. I think people will be onto him. This is a smart crowd that knows how to navigate PFF as well as I do.
     
    Boomer likes this.
  40. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    How is this being 'graded' after? Are there actual ways to decide who did the best job?
     

Share This Page