Draft Review w/ Ireland: "If our board is right, we killed it"

Nothing wrong with Jeff Ireland. He is no longer under the wings of the Tuna.

 

um sidney rice but he got hurt.

 

I have always thought Ireland is a quality GM.

 

And the boss left a year ago, but the policies stayed in place until recently. That's what I'm getting at. Why are we giving credit to Ireland and not the new boss, Ross? If Ireland is a guy who does what his boss tells him, why is it that Ireland is the one deciding to comment to the media, as opposed to Ross telling him to be more open?

Yes, I'm talking clearly about the transition from scout to GM. I'm saying that Ireland hasn't done it very well, and no, Parcells has nothing to do with it. Jeff Ireland was not fetching coffee for four years.

 

I think this is easily his best draft here. The pundits only have two knocks on it. Either they cite Tannehill is a reach or ask where were the receivers. I don't think there is such a thing as a reach at the qb spot. Either you get the right guy or you don't. If Tannehill develops then that argument is moot. As for receivers I don't think they believe it is a value position. Green Bay treats it the same way and their offense ain't bad.

Martin and Miller were enormous value picks.

 

I don't argue that Ross didn't have something to do with it. That part I don't honestly know. I acknowledged the time between now and when Parcells was here. Its only been one off season. I don't think that is a ridiculous amount of time to shake off the training you got from Parcells. He did draft differently last year than the years prior.

No you aren't. You're trying to give me **** for pointing out he was a highly regarded scout. You said that has nothing to do with being a GM.

 

The point is that if Ireland was ready and able to shake off Parcells' training, then it would have been done sooner. Ireland was content all of 2010 and 2011 to do business the way he was taught since at least 2002. The one thing that's changed hasn't been Parcells' departure—he's been gone for two full seasons now—but fan pressure and increased involvement from Stephen Ross.

Ireland may or may not like explaining himself to the media and fans as he's been doing lately, but my point is that it likely wasn't his idea. That's it.

Thanks for telling me what I'm doing, I guess I just sort of stumbled my fingers across the keyboard and the words randomly assembled themselves.

All I said is that the job description of GM has nothing to do with the job description of a scout. So using "Ireland is a good scout" as a way to claim that "Ireland is a good GM" is a false construction. Ted Thompson isn't a good GM because he may or may not be a good scout. Neither are Kevin Colbert, Ozzie Newsome, or any of the other NFL GMs who are good at their jobs.

You can continue to extract meaning where none exists, but my posts are pretty self-explanatory. I'm not even saying these things in a negative context, yet you seem to be taking them that way.

 

I never tried to make the argument that because he was a good scout that means he's a good GM. Try to wrap your head around that.

I'm also not telling you what you're doing, I only repeated it:

Sooooo, yeah. I summed up your point succinctly, (which you made because you're arguing a point I never made).

As far as shaking off Parcells training, I didn't say Ross had anything to do with it or not. I don't know, and shocking as this to you, neither do you. I do however know that Ireland has turned a corner, which never would have happened while Parcells was here.