EDIT: Gase is Jets HC

It will be interesting to see what Gase can do with a real QB ;)

I hope you guys hire Bowles!

"BicketyBam wrote:

It will be interesting to see what Gase can do with a real QB ;)

I hope you guys hire Bowles!

Seriously dude, just pray he does not get control over your roster and that he does not call the plays. Seriously.

And I would take Bowles as a DC. He is actually good at that.

"BicketyBam wrote:

I hope you guys hire Bowles!

Hes in Tampa Bay now

This is actually kind of a scary thing, personally.

Regardless of what people thought of Joseph, I saw some real good stuff from that D his one year here. I was actually sad to see him go because I thought Miami had the makings of something special.

I don’t know who they have on their roster other than the QB, but these two work well together. I might be scared of this team if they hire Joseph as DC and they have a couple of years to jell.

Be scared of a couple of dudes with chips on their shoulders.....

This was a revenge signing...teach are team to cover bubble screens and reverses and theres 2 wins they have no running game...no more need to talk about this game sorry darnAld!!!!

"Colmax wrote:

This is actually kind of a scary thing, personally.

Regardless of what people thought of Joseph, I saw some real good stuff from that D his one year here. I was actually sad to see him go because I thought Miami had the makings of something special.

I don’t know who they have on their roster other than the QB, but these two work well together. I might be scared of this team if they hire Joseph as DC and they have a couple of years to jell.

Be scared of a couple of dudes with chips on their shoulders.....

If you look at the 4 major measures of team performance yards gained, yards, allowed, points scored and points allowed Adam Gase has been less successful than Joe Philbin.
For simplicity let’s look at rankings.

Adam Gase
Year 16 - 17 - 18. (AVGE)
PF....17 - 28 - 26..(23.6)
PA....18 - 29 - 27..(24.6)
YF.....24 - 25 - 31..(26.0)
YA....29 - 16 - 29..(26.6)

Average of the rankings 22 in ‘16; 27 in ‘17; and 28.25 in ‘18.

Joe Philbin
Year 12 - 13 - 14 - 15..(AVGE)
PF....27 - 26 - 11 - 27 (22.75)
PA....7 - 8 - 20 - 19 (13.5)
YF....27 - 27 - 14 - 26 (23.0)
YA....21 - 21 - 12 - 25 (19.25)

Average of ranking 20.5 in ‘12; 20.5 in ‘13; 14.25 in ‘14 and 24.0 in ‘15.

Only in Philbin’s worst year was his average ranking worse than Gase’s best year. There is no category where Gase averaged a higher league rank than Philbin. And let’s face it Joe Philbin is a pretty low bar to clear.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.…

Unless Gase takes time to reflect on his mistakes in Miami, he'll crash and burn with the Jets. I hope he does. I want to see bubble screens and draws on third and long from the Jets -not any serious attempt to get first downs.

Could Gase be successful with the Jets? Sure, but that is irrelevant to us because there's no guarantee he would have been successful with us had he stayed. Ok he could have done better with a new QB, but we'll never know. Our team made a decision based on the evidence it had available to.them, and they felt that Gase was not the right guy to lead to our team, so whatever he does elsewhere is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.

With that said, like Deus said, if he hasn't taken time to reflect and learn from his time with us, he won't turn the Jets around. Gase strikes me as a stubborn and arrogant individual, so I'm not convinced he is going to change significantly based off how he presents himself. I think he will be more likely to think he was doing things right here and our decision makers were doing things wrong and made the wrong decision to fire him, than him admit his shortcomings. But that just how I see it.

Honestly not sure how I feel about this.

This has the potential to be a disaster for either the Jets or the Dolphins. On one hand, you guys can get a good laugh for 3 years and then he gets fired again. On the other hand he could become a coaching fixture in the AFCE and paired with Darnold he has great success. That would be a nightmare for you guys, lol.

As a Jets fan I am leery of the hire. I didn't have a clear title and candidate that I wanted but I did t want to hire McCarthy as I think he is nothing more than an average to slightly above average coach. I wanted someone with a higher ceiling so in that regard I'm happy.

I didn't think Gase was horrible and I think he deserved at least one more year, preferably with a healthy QB of some sort.
I still think he has the potential to be a very good coach, so my guess here is that he poses us problems in the long run -but the depends on his relationship with the Jets ownership and GM. There was some sort of clash there that ended things here in Miami. If whatever that is doesn't work better - or if the Jets FO doesn't improve - then he'll be moving on again.

Good riddance. The "genius" whose only success was riding Manning's jock. He is arrogant and convinced he is the smartest guy in the room. I hate the Jets and I am glad they hired this bum.

"mbsinmisc wrote:

Good riddance. The "genius" whose only success was riding Manning's jock. He is arrogant and convinced he is the smartest guy in the room. I hate the Jets and I am glad they hired this bum.

Guy won 7 games with one of the worst rosters in the league. He beat Chicago with Brock Osweiler. He's Vince Lombardi compared to Todd Bowles.

"Galant wrote:

I didn't think Gase was horrible and I think he deserved at least one more year, preferably with a healthy QB of some sort.
I still think he has the potential to be a very good coach, so my guess here is that he poses us problems in the long run -but the depends on his relationship with the Jets ownership and GM. There was some sort of clash there that ended things here in Miami. If whatever that is doesn't work better - or if the Jets FO doesn't improve - then he'll be moving on again.

I like his upside and at the very least it will really put some juice in the Jets/Dolphins rivalry.

I find it puzzling that the Jets would let their top candidate go because he didn't like the assistants they wanted him to hire. If you value the coach that much to bill him as your top candidate, why not let him pick who he wants to work with?

"Not So Fast wrote:

I find it puzzling that the Jets would let their top candidate go because he didn't like the assistants they wanted him to hire. If you value the coach that much to bill him as your top candidate, why not let him pick who he wants to work with?

I don't think he was their top candidate. I think it was McCarthy and he was just asking for too much in terms of money and power.

If Gase is going to improve in NY, he has to start by delegating offensive calls to the coordinator, he is going to need to stop making excuses because the NY media will eat his ass alive. The media barely covers Miami, they will put you on blast for placing blame on injuries and your backup players (throwing your backups under the bus). And philosophy wise he cant be a pussy, be more aggressive, stop with the stupid run plays at 3rd and long or screen plays that dont even make it past the chains.

My guess is he will continue to be the same. Might start aggressive at first to prove theyre wrong about him but his cowardness will come out and he will call plays with fear.

I haven't weighed in on Gase yet. I don't think he is a bad coach honestly. He is a terrible leader however. And that's the HC main job, leadership. Coordinators coach. Head Coaches lead and Gase is not a leader of men. Jesters and the NY media and fans are going to rip him to shreds in a year.

Wow. He's bringing in his Offensive coordinator with him. I guess that's a good thing for the Dolphins since we were so bad on Offense.

Sorry didn't see the other post below. Repeat can be deleted.

Post of the year on the Jets board:

"DarrelleRevis.Human? said: ↑
This might just edge out the day my father died as being the saddest day of my life."