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Eichenburg, Lamm and Jackson on the starting OL.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Dorfdad, Sep 10, 2023.

  1. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    We’re screwed! Man I hate Grier and his inability to get a functioning online and it will cost us yet another year!

    If anyone even tries to defend him you’re silly. Guy is horrible.

    I really hope this thread is mocked and I’m overreacting but I’m really worried TUA is going to need to be Bruce Lee out there behind that line.
     
  2. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    I cant believe Jackson is still in the NFL..
     
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  3. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    Poor Tua.
     
  4. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Can't believe they moved up to select Eich.

    You got to fire the guy who keeps making mistakes otherwise the guy who made the mistakes will keep throwing his mistakes down your throat until they maybe work out.
     
  5. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I’ll get blasted for saying this, but read to the end please.

    When it comes to free agents, Grier does a great job. His most notable landing was getting the Cheetah last year. He’s great at landing free agents. When it comes to the draft?

    Like any GM, the draft is a craps shoot. For every 7 you roll on the come out, you roll craps as well.

    Let’s be honest here…

    Wilkins
    Waddle
    Tagovailoa
    Phillips

    All stud players! Can’t deny that.

    But in the what, 10+ years he’s either been the GM or had influence in the team’s draft, you haven’t been able to put together a SOLID offensive line…the BASE of your offensive unit is completely INEXCUSABLE!!!!!
     
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  6. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    To make matters even worse, he doesn’t seem to make the OL a priority, and never has. I get the impression that he signed Armstead and Williams just to say “See - I got you two top players, you should be able to fill in the other three positions with just about anyone. Oh, and keep trotting out my draft picks, because they’ll be good someday”.
     
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  7. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    The offensive line has been an issue with the dolphins for so long..

    i kid you not for those who have forgotten, there was a day where Brandon Albert, Pouncey, and Tunsil played on the same team and they struggled because our weaknesses was schematically which is coaching.

    now we seem to have the coaching for a strong offensive line, i mean this guy did come from San Francisco who had a literal brick wall during his time there, but we dont have the players.. we draft guys like Jackson who i thought was a complete reach as a guy who watches a lot of USC games i saw him get beat by everyone..
     
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  8. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    We just need an OL that is average and the offense will be fine. That's the frustrating part, that Grier can't seem to manage even that.

    If the defense steps up today, and they run the ball more on offense, Miami should be okay. Dropping back to pass play-after-play will end his season pretty quick.
     
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  9. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Watch the other games this week. A good offensive line is very hard to come by. Already seeing it.
     
  10. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly there are like 3-5 teams that have no o-line problems it’s the whole league that’s craving for a good o-line. Plus this years line looks better then years prior and from what I‘m hearing is that Jackson seems to have come around and is supposed to be a different player (well he’s also in a contract year). Sure it would be nice to have a Eagles o-line but the Jest for instance would wish they had our o-line problems.
     
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  11. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    the problem is a poor offensive line and tua will be constantly running for his life which leads to blind side hits and injuries
     
  12. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Wtf two bad exchange he’s in the first drive by Williams this oline is a damn joke Grier is a closet jets fan I swear it!
     
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  13. Wilkimania

    Wilkimania Well-Known Member

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    The line has held pretty well so far. Who'd have guessed it?
     
  14. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Didn't give up a single sack today. I'll take it.
     
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  15. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    I can't believe I'm going to say this, but... Eich and Jackson did their thing.
     
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  16. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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    An actual offensive coaching staff goes a long way
     
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  17. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Let's go, Grier! They had a really good game
     
  18. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Where’s all the we have no Oline people? Time to eat some crow.
     
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  19. Striking

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    They won't. They'll wait for a poor game and then say "see I told you".
     
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  20. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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    Put some Frank's Red Hot on mine. I didn't see this coming and I hope I get used to it. Incredible job.
    [​IMG]
     
  21. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Im here and I'll gladly eat some crow. They did a hell of decent job against a pretty good defense. Tua didn't get hit and we were able to run a little. Not going to anoint the second coming of the Line especially when it's game 1 and people don't have a lot of tape. Let's see if they can continue that success.

    But I'll eat that crow today they did a great job!!!
     
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  22. cbrad

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    Chargers haven't yet proven they have a good defense. They had our number last year, but they were ranked 23, 29 and 21 in points allowed last 3 years. And if you can put yourself in the shoes of a Chargers fan for a moment, giving up 536 yards and 36 points with 215 yards to one WR has got to be frustrating as hell. WAY more frustrating than what we felt consistently giving up chunk yards to their RBs.

    So the OL has yet to prove itself. But the more defenses fear Tua+Hill+Waddle, the better our OL and running game will look. Big question is which defenses can cover both Hill and Waddle without double teaming them. If our defense improves (and it will), we'll have a potent combination of high powered passing and adequate defense. Many teams in the modern era have won SBs with that approach.
     
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  23. Springveldt

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    I can see the Jets trying it and if the refs do their job and call holding on Sauce we will get a bunch of PI yards.
     
  24. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    Even more impressive is the fact they did it without Armstead.

    Pass that Frank’s Red Hot, would ya?
     
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  25. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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    Wynn was actually the starter but the line went so unmentioned during the game I didn't even know it
     
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  26. Wilkimania

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    The promising thing was it was against Mack and Bosa too. I can't remember too many games in his career where Bosa was kept that quiet for the entirety of the four quarters.
     
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  27. dolphin25

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    OL was awesome yesterday !
     
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  28. StaleTacos

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    The key was sitting Eich. Well done McD.
     
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  29. TheHighExhaulted

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    Austin Jackson owned Bosa all game.
     
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  30. tirty8

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    Line looked impressive. If anyone here subscribes to PFF, I would love to see how they graded each man out.
     
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  31. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Well-Known Member

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    The OP on this thread has aged poorly.
     
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  32. Fireland

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    [​IMG]
     
  33. Fishhead

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    Hunt, Williams and Lamm all graded pretty well. By reactions on here and online, I would have thought AJ would have graded higher - didn’t hear the usual negativity about him throughout game.
     
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  34. Wilkimania

    Wilkimania Well-Known Member

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    Imagine predicting that before the game, you'd have been laughed off of here.
     
  35. StaleTacos

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    Interesting they didn't like Jackson
     
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  36. OwesOwn614

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    Mack and Bosa, backed by an otherwise solid secondary with a couple of all-star level players in it. Conventional thinking is that a decent secondary buys time to get to the QB but the ball came out quickly yesterday. The Bolts may have to get used to their new DC the way we need to get used to ours. But any day where you shut out Joey Bosa and Kahlil Mack is a day to celebrate.
     
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  37. tirty8

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    I am honestly shocked by that too.
     
  38. Pauly

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    I've always sort of defended Grier with respect to the OL on the basis that the OL coaching under Gase and Flores was so bad we had no true idea of what we actually had.

    After game 1 of 2023 it looks like the problem was much more coaching not personnel.

    I'll hold my breath to see how things play out over the season. Maybe other teams will exploit weaknesses once they get a bit more film. Maybe coaching has helped players get good.
     
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  39. Fireland

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    Jackson in particular was raw and needed coaching. His development was ruined.
     
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