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Entire Seahawks Team May Sit During Anthem

Discussion in 'Out of Bounds' started by Rickysabeast, Sep 9, 2016.

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  1. Rickysabeast

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  2. Shane Falco

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    A bunch of misguided idiots. They don't even know what they are protesting.

    Clueless sheep.
     
  3. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    on 9/11 no less, i really hope we kick the **** out of the seahawks.
     
  4. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I can't see Wilson doing this.
     
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  5. dolphin25

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    While Wagner said he didn’t know if he would sit down during the anthem he said “anything we want to do, it’s not going to be individual. It’s going to be a team thing. That’s what the world needs to see. The world needs to see people coming together versus being individuals.”

    excuse me, but isn't that EXACTLY what Kapernick is doing?
     
  6. Rickysabeast

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    If you're protesting it as black lives matter, shouldn't you at least stand for the black people that willingly died for that same flag? I'm just saying.
     
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  7. Rocky Raccoon

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    The protests have nothing to do with the military. They're not being anti-military, or even anti-American. They're protesting social injustice.
     
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  9. LiferYank

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    Which would be what?
     
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  10. dolphin25

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    perceived social injustice.
     
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  11. Unlucky 13

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    To me, the most bizarre thing to come out of all of this (and lets face it, its weird), is how for so many people, the flag ONLY means the military. The flag represents the nation, the government, the lands and the people. The insistance from so many that anything you say or do about the flag is directly related to the military is something thats beyond me.
     
  12. Shane Falco

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    "perceived" social injustices
     
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  13. Rickysabeast

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    Then why do it during the anthem. Do it when they buy ice cream or get their oil changed.

    I'm hoping the cameras simply stop showing the sidelines and stay tight on the flag and the performer who is also being disrespected while singing the anthem which was probably their life time dream. This mostly goes away if we just stop filming them being disrespectful. Oh, and you can argue with me through eternity and I'll win; they are being disrespectful. This country has given these spoiled brats everything and they are ingrates by not honoring it.
     
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    The part I don't get, is I almost get a little misty every time I hear that song and see them honor the flag and the fallen. To have anyone that wants to willingly detract from that for their own agenda just makes my blood boil. The icing on the cake is that the NFL allows this to happen is amazing to me.

    Stand and respect the anthem and the flag it's part of your job. If you don't do it, you don't play and your game check goes to Wounded Warriors. If the players don't like it, there are literally thousands ready to take their place. We are prepared to lose this game to ensure you respect this country.
     
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  16. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!
     
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  17. LiferYank

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    That is beyond a huge jump...
     
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    Forcing someone to stand for the anthem is not respect. It is compliance. It is disrespectful to anyone who served in the uniform and against everything this country stands for.
     
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    You can disagree with the Anthem and still respect those fallen to give you the right to disagree.

    I am agnostic however if i am at a family event or a friends house and they want to say grace i bow my head i dont say anything but i do bow my head.. Why? Respect for others.
     
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  20. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Force nationalism is a scary form of nationalism.

    You can call it 'respect', it is still freaking scary.
     
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    I never said anything about forcing anything.

    If Collin or anyone wants to sit they can sit. People that dont appreciate it however do have a voice.
     
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    Plus with how we actually treat or troops after combat is much more disrespectful.
    It is sad that is not getting more press than a football player doing anything.
     
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    Empathy. Google that word. Try to incorporate it into your life. You might grow to be less bitter towards those who have a different experience than you.
     
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    They do. It is their right as an American citizen to be upset.

    Imo calling for punishment or forcing them to stand is scary
     
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    Empathy towards what? Perception is just that perception its not always based on factual information. Instead of catering to false perception wouldnt it better to educate people on actual information?
     
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  26. LiferYank

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    Why do you insist on suggesting i have done that?
     
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    “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.” –MLK


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  28. Vertical Limit

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    I find it disturbing that there are so many people that does not know what the flag stands for, and also the many people that deny racism exists.. Or perhaps they think blacks are treated the way theyre supposed to be treated, like animals that should be put down.

    Lol @ "perceived social injustice"... You cant be serious about that statement and if you are... Then youre just creepy..

    I dont want to get too political in a football forum though. by the way there will be a handful of dolphins that will join them.
     
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    A truly great man that preached unity and tolerance..

    To bad there are very few today doing that.
     
  30. GARDENHEAD

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    Clearly you're not trying this empathy thing. Sorry you're so bitter. Have fun at your Trump rally.
     
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    You call for empathy and then insult someone that disagrees with you... Interesting.

    Facts over perception makes one "bitter" eh? Did you accuse someone else of not knowing what words mean?
     
  32. Rick 1966

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    Yeah because anyone who disagrees with your interpretation MUST be evil. But liberals are the open-minded ones somehow...
    The fact is, cops are people. Just as a certain percentage of people will be bad people, a certain percentage of cops will be bad people. Just as a certain percentage of people will suck at their job, a certain percentage of cops will suck at their job. The fact that there have been some cops who are poorly trained or just bad people who've done bad things doesn't mean that there's systemic prejudice against black people across the nation in dozens of police agencies.
    White people get shot with little justification or mistakenly by cops all the time without massive protests or accusations of racism. Cops make mistake, but in general they got into their line of work to help people and attitudes being pushed by groups like BLM are doing nothing but discouraging people from getting into law enforcement and endangering the lives of the ones that are in that line of work.
     
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    MLK would be sickened by the so-called "leaders" of the BLM movement and the violence they've encouraged.
     
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    Best damn summary I've seen of this yet.
     
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    And it's everyone's right to call then what they are: disrespectful. No one is arguing that they don't have the right to do it. They absolutely do. But sometimes you don't do what you have the right to do, out of respect for others. You find a different way of doing it.
     
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    First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."

    - MLK
     
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    If it is just about disrespect, I wouldn't mention anything.

    There is someone in this thread that wants the owners to take away their right to do so.

    This is America. Where you have the right to offend and you have the right to be offended.
     
  38. Coloradotrv

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    Personally, I find the kneeling to be a very respectful way to do this protest. The kneel in line with their team, they still honor the country, flag, and anthem, and they get to make their statement about whatever they are choosing to protest. I think the sitting is quite disrespectful, but it is their right to do so.
     
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    Criticize Kap all you want. Dupree said "IMO calling for punishment or forcing them to stand is scary". Do you see the distinction, or are you willfully missing the point?
     
  40. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I do not agree with this version of MLK that gets peddled around.

    Everything people are saying about BLM now, they said about MLK then.
     
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