there is a silver lining:
1) three games does not a season make. If we run the the board & this happens & that happens, well might not be so bad.
2) Henne has proven he can manage a game, even without an offensive line
3) with each game we lose, the closer we get to Luck in the draft & getting rid of Fony Sparano
4) if our losses continue to accumulate, we can experiment more with the play book & promising rookies
5) think how happy we will be when we finally turn it around & become a viable & consistent contender
if the Detroit Lions turned the corner, we can do it too!
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vt_dolfan and ToddsPhins like this.
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my personal favorite is #3 with each game we lose, the closer we get to Luck in the draft & getting rid of Fony Sparano
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I actually like the logic to your opening post, 23rd. It's not a bad way to look at things.
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Yeah, I mean if they beat the Chargers, it gives a sliver of hope since you have 5 division games remaining. Slim, but hope, and at least an exciting MNF game vs NYJ, especially if they lose to the Ravens.
If they lose to SD then it's all pretty much over, not coming back from an 0-4 hole with all the losses to AFC teams, so you're leading the Luck Bowl. -
Yes. But there's some on this forum does not like the Dolphins to lose.
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And for good reason. I'm there on that same boat. But at the same time, I also realize that sporadic wins here and there with a regime that is not going to withstand the season, does nothing for the long term future of the franchise. It really is a tough fence to ride this one is... -
Really? The nerve of some people. Dolphins fan who actually don't like to see the team lose...what's this world coming to?SeanP, GreysonWinfield and HenneNator like this.
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game 4 in the NFL is like round 6 in a major boxing match
the feeling out process is over, a few damaging shots have been delivered & you will see the real fight emerge
having said that
knowing full well the importance of a win, Miami could pull it off
the question you have to ask yourself:
is it better to win half your games, lose Luck in the draft & give Fony Sparano a new excuse to coach?
hard question to answer for fans thirsty for SuperBowl or @ least 4 a reason to show up for a game on Sunday to answer
sometimes you're just out-classed, not ready to fight:
you may need reinforcements, new weapons, higher ground or better leadership
so you tactically retreat positioning yourself to win the war, losing some battles
simply put, this is a time to of lowered expectations
however
it could usher in a time of great expectation in 2012
my country grandmother used to say: "can't make a silk purse out of a sow's (pig) ear." priceless observation
unfortunate reality: we can win game four but we just don't have the material to make a silk purse out of this team
this is a :crapstrom: The End.pumpdogs likes this. -
Jesus H Christ....is this going to be a thread every week??? Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck, Luck...
God I get so sick and tired of hearing about Andrew Luck. What in the hell makes you guys think Andrew Luck won't be another Joey Harrington, huh? Harrington was a Heisman Trophy winner and poor Detroit fans thought he was their savior.MrClean and HenneNator like this. -
A-FREAKING-MEN!!!!! Luck could be TRASH. These know-it-alls don't even REMEMBER Ryan Leaf! Suppose if Luck hooks up with a little hottie at Stanford and the power of the vajayjay keeps him in school another year??? It could happen.
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about this & that:
1) Friend Dark_Knight
how about Henne/Sparano, Henne/Sparano, Henne/Sparano, Henne/Sparano, Henne/Sparano, Henne/Sparano, Henne/Sparano, Henne/Sparano, Henne/Sparano, Henne/Sparano, Henne/Sparano, Henne/Sparano, Henne/Sparano, not sick & tired of hearing that yet? Anybody heard the word SuperBowl lately?
Einstein on insanity:
doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results... think about it.
2) Fellow Member HenneNator
what if a meteor the size of Kansas struck the earth tomorrow? not to worry, it probably won't happen.
having said that
all we have is probability, there are no certainties in life.
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Won't defend Hennenator because I haven't followed his posts, but obviously you've not followed mine. You copy catted me with your copied/pasted "Henne/Sparano" post simply to try and be like me, but the difference though is I don't have a raging hard on for Henne nor Sparano. In fact, if you take the time to read some of my posts, you'll see I have anything but a hard on for Sparano.
As for Henne, I still think he can be a good QB in the NFL. A Marino, Kelly or Elway? Of course not, but then again, I can name several quarterbacks with championship rings that were average quarterbacks...Mark Rypen, Jim Plunkett, Bob Griese just to name a few. I know of two PHENOMINAL quarterbacks that dn't have a ring, Marino and Kelly.
Your man crush on Andrew Luck is blinding you to the fact that football is a team sport, not a baseball game in which the pitcher (QB) does all the work one on one against a batter. Our team's needs go far beyond a superstar quarterback. -
Friend Dark_Knight:
1) take it as a compliment to your ingenuity & creativity in posting. imitation is the purest form of flattery. It was not my intent to ridicule or antagonize. I was simply trying to make my point as well as you made your point.
2) I follow your posts as you post & I am available on line to read them, which is less & less these days due to my declining interest in watching another season butchered by incompetence & mediocrity. Know, however, that I respect & read your posts. You are a friend.
3) since the "die was cast" & Henne elected starter I have supported his effort & posted a number of times he has exceeded my expectations, managing the game well, despite the offensive line. If the team were playing collectively @ a superior level, I believe we could have a respectable season. Unfortunately, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear & time is running out. Where to find the Silk or maybe we just need the right PurseMaker to fashion the material correctly? Ask Sparano?
4) speaking of Sparano, I like him as a personality, apparently very affable but he is the first thing wrong with the team. He is not smart enough to be a Head Coach in the NFL. Fony Sparano simply has to go away. I wish him well & hope he finds a job in which he can excel.
5) Should be obvious to everyone, unless they have a man-crush on our current QB, we need a franchise caliber QB along with a new head coach to compete & prosper in the NFL.
Andrew Luck will probably, unless struck dead by lightning, be the top prospect in the next draft.
hope you enjoy the season, better yet, hope we all find something to enjoy this season :couch: game four coming up!The_Dark_Knight likes this. -
Could'a sworn he won the Heisman.
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Now go look at how long it took the Lions to 'turn the corner' and how many top draft picks were involved.
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Friend MrClean:
SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT:
meaningless banter
argumentation is incremental to losing
boring, very boring
Luck, Phuck, whoever might fill the role of Franchise QB
the obvious is for those who see
love is blind
what does it really matter?
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OK since 1990, here are the QBs taken first overall:
Jeff George
Drew Bledsoe (much he needed a transfusion)
Peyton Manning
Tim Couch
Mike Vick
David Carr
Carson Palmer
Eli Manning
Alex Smith
Jamarcus Russell
Matt Stafford
Sam Bradford
Cam Newton
OK 13 QBs. 4 reached the Superbowl (I think George did in 95) and only 2 won a SB. That's 15% of the QBs taken overall who won a SB since 1990.
The odds are TERRIBLE.
Luck is no guarantee at all.
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HenneNator:
SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT:
meaningless banter
argumentation is incremental to losing
boring, very boring
Luck, Phuck, whoever might fill the role of Franchise QB
the obvious is for those who see
love is blind
what does it really matter?
have a nice day, I've wasted too much time already on this nonsense -
silver futures sold off this week
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Friend Xiidaen:
yes, it is true & certainly should be mentioned in the final food for thought.
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I am ready to go all in and take a chance on a franchise qb.That is how you have to start the rebuilding process draft a qb high and build around him.There is never a sure thing at any postion but the bottomline the plan we had in place for the last 4 years is not working.This team sucks and like you i have been suffering for a long time and want a winner.I was hoping this team would turn the corner this year but it was just a hope.I really thought we would be a third place team but now even the bills have surpassed us.I see no point in winning 6 or 7 games this year.If we keep doing that we will be stuck as a 3rd or 4th place team every year and i am sick of that.Sometimes you need to take a step back to take 2 steps forward.If we have a top 5 pick we can't take a freaking rb or a lineman we to go all in and take a chance on the qb.
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it makes no sense to blow up the team. what we need is one killer offseason. we have plenty of young pieces and we just need to add a few playmakers.
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How futile it will all seem when we do bust the season, Luck does declare for the draft, and we pick a lineman.