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Every Tannehill dropback against Carolina

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Mainge, Nov 30, 2013.

  1. Mainge

    Mainge Season Ticket Holder

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    [video=youtube;RYwrbfuTxGw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYwrbfuTxGw&feature=youtu.be[/video]

    All caught up. Make sure to watch in 1080p.
     
  2. Brasfin

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    Despite the loss, I think it was one of his best perfomances this season so far.
     
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  3. Fin-Omenal

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    Thee...Ohio State University
    That's depressing
     
  4. rdhstlr23

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    Very.
     
  5. CaribPhin

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    Arm talent is there. It's the brain talent I'm worried about. Is decision making something that's likely to improve significantly year on year? His decision making (which includes decision speed) needs work. Tannehill just doesn't see enough of the play fast enough. That, to me, keeps him from overcoming the other weaknesses on this team.
     
  6. djphinfan

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    It's time he leaves distributor mode, and goes into playmaker mode, and when he does, Wallace needs to break deep, hopefully the staff is swallowing some pride on their perfect timing based offense and practicing some extension plays..the play where Ryan threw into coverage where two panthers collided violently would of been 6 if he launched it deep.

    About the whole deep ball issue..I would bet we could count on our hands how many times Ryan tannehill threw deepballs to his receivers in college...he surely didn't do it at all his first two and a half years of college, he surely didn't do it thru high school..this is a new concept to him..

    I think playing against this jet defense will be a good barometer to where Ryan is in his development and that of a playmaker.
     
  7. padre31

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    Hmm, by my count, 8 what I'd consider inaccurate throws, 3 of the were aimed at Wallace, 1 to Thigpen.

    If Rishard Matthews had managed to hang onto the ball at the back of the EZ we have a "W".

    Other thing I noticed is my goodness, 3rd and 20, 3rd and 20, 3rd and 14, 3rd and 12 that is where the lack of a running game is killing the offense.

    Thought this was the most I've seen THill use his mobility so far this year

    And 1 "sack' that was kinda BS, last play of the game..c'mon man
     
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  8. djphinfan

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    the int on the first drive was a terrible decision on a couple levels.
     
  9. padre31

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    Did not even count that Deej, that is one of those 'stuff happens" plays

    What I'm speaking about is 8 times his ball placement held the receiver back from either making a big play, or just making the routine play.

    He's thrown that little flat route to Thigpen the same way all yr, always behind him, that pass has to go on the front shoulder, the Wallace ones have been discussed, and one throw to Matthews (I think) that was just to far outside for him to do anything with.

    That said, Matthews holds onto that pass, we win that game, granted he was stuck hard on the play..just sometimes you just have to make it happen.

    all in all, those two possessions inside the 20 that became FG's really are what lost the game for us, with no running game down inside the 10, D's just drop everyone into the EZ and play "Cover"..they need to figure that out

    I'd almost put Egnew as a sort of HBack down there
     
  10. djphinfan

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    pod, I'm not sure how you don't count that, he had a clear lane to run for a first down yet chose to rifle the ball 10 feet in front of him late after the receiver hit the brakes, it was an awful play by the Qb..these are the. Moments of understanding situational football, he has to be aware of getting the first down, and stop being a pendulum..
     
  11. padre31

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    B/c that is not what I'm talking about Deej, I'm speaking of ball placement, he's achilles heel in his young career.

    Those 3rd and extreme longs are just insane to try and convert that consistently, that however is a different issue.
     
  12. djphinfan

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    What third and longs?

    To me that play is just as bad as anything you are pointing out, the awareness was not good.
     
  13. padre31

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    If you rewatch the video, look at the bottom of the screen at the down and distances

    That gives you some context for what the offense was trying to do, mostly THill would throw underneath and hope someone makes a play...uhm..3rd and 20?
     
  14. djphinfan

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    Do you think those are scripted to go there or he needs to look the short stuff off and go deeper?.
     
  15. padre31

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    Combination of poor OL and routes imo, ball has to come out quickly, problem is in that situation the defenders are all stacked just covering their man so the guy who makes the catch has to beat 2 sometimes 3 defenders...that play is likely going nowhere inow.

    This is why lacking the running game is haunting us, generate even 4 yds on first or second down and the script flips
     
  16. spongebob Phins Fan

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    c'mon man, on Wallace !
     

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