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Every year the dude gets better

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by djphinfan, Sep 25, 2015.

  1. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    Math post of the year!!! What a Nerd!
     
  2. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    I agree, you don't pull it from the resume, but if I'm evaluating a game and the QB hit the WR in the hands and it bounces off into the hands of a defender, I won't pin that INT on the QB in my evaluation of that player.
     
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  3. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    Yes, but I was speaking of evaluating a single player, and how viewing the game can be important in reviewing the stats, especially with such a small sample size, these things usually even out over a season but can skew a small sample size.
     
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  4. Phins Up Wins Up

    Phins Up Wins Up Banned

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  5. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't have an issue with doing it here. Rarely is a single tipped pass going to increase a QBs ypa from 6.9 to 7.5. Tipped passes do happen, but when you have an outlier, like Tannehill passing for 7.5 ypa when his career ypa going back to college has hovered around 7, indeed when his ypa for the first game in this season was lower, and a single tipped pass is the reason his ypa is 7.5 instead of 6.9, which is his historical average, yeah you take that into account.

    You don't subtract it from his stats, because it happen. But it's something you keep an eye on.
     
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  6. Tannephins

    Tannephins Banned

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    I can understand the rationale, but you possibly introduce all sorts of confounds when you do this in an imbalanced way for only one player. And by "imbalanced" I mean, in this case for example, what about the long downfield pass that could've been completed but wasn't, at no fault of Tannehill's? What if you add that to his stats? So in this case you're looking only at removing a negative play, for only one player (and not the other players in the league at his position), while not considering possibly adding a play that might've benefitted him. As the sample size increases, these sorts of things are very likely going to even out among players and teams, and we aren't even close to being at that point yet, so yes I can understand your rationale for "keeping an eye on it." But the caution still remains of devolving into cherry-picking, or at the very least very subjective reasons for adding and removing data.
     
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  7. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    this is the kind of route stills should run imo, if he catches that thing instead of Matthews its a score
     
  8. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    and thats a compliment brad.
     
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  9. Mexphin

    Mexphin Well-Known Member

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    Iy you want to eliminate that 1 pass then you should consider as a complete the pass dropped by Jennings since that should have been a complete pass.
     
  10. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    Yes, it was :)
     
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  11. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If you throw out a positive then go ahead and throw out a negative play. Not good practice.
     
  12. cbrad

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    Maybe a little too early to say this, but Dalton seems to be playing on another level this year.
     
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  13. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    not really. he has all his weapons so far. last year he was missing pieces due to injury. when 100% healthy that is an excellent offense. but they lack depth. they need to be healthy in january
     
  14. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    If that pass to Matthews had been better, it wouldn't have been tipped, and the result would have been the same.
     
  15. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    took a lot of heat supporting that dude over the years..especially when he was coming out, no'one agreed with me that I knew of, good to see that evaluation coming out positive at this point.
     
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  16. jdang307

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    Then all you have to do is wait a game, and there, his ypa is now 6.9 again.
     
  17. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    No he actually looks a lot better. He's killing it right now. Can he sustain? We'll see.
     

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