Wow

 

As they should. The real problem in Denver is Mr. Ed. . . . er, I mean Mr. Elway.

 

Really, I MIGHT be wrong but wasn’t it Elway brought Manning and 2 Super Bowl appearances with one of them being champs?

Now the whole Vance Joseph enigma puzzles me. Denver wasn’t the only team interested in Joseph as their new head coach, even before he was our disasterous DC here

Someone must really see something in this guy. I just don’t get it

 

Elway has also been an utter failure at replacing Manning, who was basically gift-wrapped to him. A ten year old could have offered Peyton a contract.

The lack of QB play was the single biggest issue that team had this year. They will be likely to either pursue a Cousins vet type, or draft another young gun.

Hard to fire a first-year coach when it's your albatross that sunk him.

 

Any Gm can reach the playoffs w/ Manning at QB. Toss in defensive genius Wade Phillips (and apparently remove Adam Gase) and then you have a a Super Bowl Championship.

Elway has done nothing to improve that team from that point on. In fact, he screwed the pooch when he passed on Kaepernick after trying to trade for him prior.

 

I felt that the day Peyton left (and he was a shell at that point) was the day the Broncos went into rebuilding mode. They've yet to establish themselves as a legitimate team largely because of the QB situation. The defense has also fallen back and needs some work.

I don't see why they wouldn't make a big push for someone like Kirk Cousins. They still have weapons on offense so that would seem to solve 60% of their issues right there.

Sign Cousins and turn the focus towards re-loading that defense with Vance Joseph at the helm.

It honestly doesn't seem that complicated.

The Chargers are mediocre. The Raiders fell back this year and will have a new HC next year. Kansas City is going to be starting fresh with a new QB most likely. Elway could do a lot by bringing Cousins in. That division is open for the taking right now.

 

Vance Joseph is not a good head coach, he also was not a good DC, the only thing he has proven in his entire career is that he is a decent defensive backs coach.

I really don't get the praise for this guy or why he was made a head coach so quickly anyway giving his utter lack of success and lack of experience as a DC.

Goes to show how clueless most of the NFL actually is.

 

Vance did less with more than any other coach this season. Elway seems clueless about finding a real QB, so that awesome defense has been wasted. It would be funny if they get Eli for a year or two, but I don't see the Peyton magic being repeated with Eli. Playoff team? Sure, but not a Super Bowl team.

 

His players vehemently disagree with you here. That's some heavy proof in the pudding considering the season they had.

 

Just because some of his players like him does not prove he is a good head coach, or a good DC, the proof in the pudding is actual results, not wether some players like the guy or not.

 

Agree to some degree. Elway is the anchor there though and everyone seems to know it but the horse face himself.

Joseph also coached our lackluster defense - talent wise - to our best defensive showing since '13.

 

Our defense last year was bad. We couldn't stop anybody, gave up a ton of yards. Our run defense especially was horrendous.

Vance did not do anything special at all for us last season.

 

The only thing that matters for defense is PPG and takeaways.

The run defense was atrocious, but that also had to do with the ignorant wide 9 defense and Alonso at Mike.

 

I would submit that just because your players LIKE you doesn't make you a GOOD coach.

 

VJ took the donks south, he was terrible.

How many experienced HC applied for the Donks HC job??? None

You want to know why, because Elway wanted a yes man, and VJ is great at that...

VJ also didn't want Wade back...LOL OK the best DC in the league, why? Because VJ knew Wade would show him up...

If anyone here believes that PM was the reason the Donks won the SB, then you never watched the game, Wade was the reason the Donks won the SB, hell PM was benched during the year....

 

KC has a losing record, why would anyone want to sign him for the money he's asking?

You pay top price for players that make other players around them better, KC doesn't and has never done that.

But I could care less if they sign KC, just another team that shouldn't be hard to beat.

 

Because it is hard as **** to find good QBs. Cousins ain't Rogers, but neither is anyone else, and he's a damn sight better than anything else they have. It's either that or roll the dice on a college guy. The Broncos still have a window based on their offensive skill players and defense that a rookie won't exploit, but Cousins will.

That Redskins offense was so banged up this year, and that franchise as a whole is garbage. People whine about Ross, I'd take Ross 100 times out of 100 over a ****bag like Snyder and his cronies.

Cousins will immediately make multiple teams a contender. The Bills, Broncos, Cards, Jags, Giants all should beat down the door to get him. ****, if we aren't sold on post injury Tannehill we should check it out pretty hard.

 

The Broncos problems aren't Joseph. At least there really isn't an argument to say it is. It's still too early.


Vance came in last year and made a chicken salad sandwich out of straight poop.

A lot of people, incorrectly, claim that the Dolphins defense was "putrid", "horrible", "worst in franchise history" last season, but the facts are, they were average. And they were average with 2nd and 3rd string players. Our DB's missed him greatly this year because he's a friggin' genius in that department.

 

I disagree, KC has a losing record and doesn't elevate the players around him, yet he wants top QB money.

He's been in the league long enough to have a track record, it is what it is, he isn't a guy that will elevate any team.