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Extensions Are Coming For Pouncey And Tannehill

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by shamegame13, Feb 2, 2015.

  1. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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  2. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    As far as Ryan goes thats good buisness. Pouncey on the other hand? He needs to prove more imo before we go giving him an upper teir contract, no reason whatsoever to rush negotiations with him imo.
     
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  3. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Heavily incentive laden contract for Tanny, which I think he will be happy w/. Pouncey? Depends on the deal. Incentive laden also.
     
  4. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Well, there is actually. A new deal with Pouncy is the easiest way to free up cap space this offseason other than cutting guys. Lowering his 2015 number would definately be part of the deal.
     
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  5. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    While Pouncy's play at guard wasn't great he's a top tier Center and we can't be getting rid of any top tier lineman IMO.
     
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  6. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Pouncey is tricky.

    He has a number of question-marks - both his character and his willingness to stay in shape. He is a solid center.

    I think the team needs to go one way or another with Pouncey this year. Either cut him (saving $7 M), or re-sign him and lower his cap this year. And, if you really believe in him, you hope you get a center for the long haul.
     
  7. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    hopefully they get tannehill's contract done before the 2015 season starts. this is our last chance at saving some bucks.
     
  8. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    He's barely a top 10 center and he's looking at top 3 money. I'd string him out and make sure that he can still effectively play at center.
     
  9. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    i think he's a top tier center too. he needs an extra 30 lbs to play guard though. he needs to stick to one position. you cant be great at both
     
  10. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    Name me the Centers that are better than him...
     
  11. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    LOL... What the?
     
  12. scotty_irnbru

    scotty_irnbru Well-Known Member

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    You sign up both. Pouncey may well be a moron with question marks but you stuck with him after the bully stuff, he's a pro bowl centre, pay him and show the locker room that talent gets paid over all. Tannehill is our future at the position. Regardless of your opinion on his ceiling there isn't a better starting number 1 qb available to us this year. So build around him.
     
  13. Marino1385

    Marino1385 Banned

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    The failship sets sail again if we sign Tannehill to an extension.

    QB's have it figured out by now in there career in todays NFL.

    I'd re-sign pouncy to an incentive based contract. He's a good O-linemen, but a knucklehead.
     
  14. zwave21

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    No issue with these moves if done the right way/

    RT17, it's a tough call. 1. you can sign him to long-term extension and he could regress and end up like SF/Cin/Chi are dealing with in their QB's. 2. You can pick up option and he has a stellar year and increases his price tag that much further.

    My plan, would be to pick up his option and hopefully he keeps progressing and we pay the man his money. Folks he is our QB for now and future.

    Pouncey, I feel like by signing him would create more cap room for this offseason, and I am all for that. I am also all for keeping him on the OL as he is a leader no matter what B.S. reports you hear and what not. I want a nasty guy up front who supports the offense and that is him. With him and Albert we have two leaders upfront to tutor the younger guys in James and Turner and hopefully we can add another stud OG to round out the unit. Moving Pouncey back to his natural center and having him healthy for a full offseason will pay divideds.
     
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  15. Zounds

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    I think I'm in the minority, but I wouldn't mind if they let Pouncey walk. I thought he played terrible at RG this year, and he probably wants $7+ million per year. Pouncey may redeem himself in 2016, but I think that's too much for him and I'd push for a short term contract (which he would likely reject).
     
  16. ElNino

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    I'm willing to give Pouncey a pass on any of the so called "character issues". Yeah the Hernandez thing was dumb as rocks, but aside from that i've seen nothing too alarming. In interviews he seems like a smart dude, and he can play his *** off, so as long as he doesn't demand ridiculous money, give the man an extension.
     
  17. scotty_irnbru

    scotty_irnbru Well-Known Member

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    in your previous incarnation of philbinfan you suggested getting rid of tannehill. You offered no alternative. Is that still the case?
     
  18. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    He was a pro-bowl center and had the hip issue. Moved to guard after coming back (not fully healthy) because they couldn't find anybody who wasn't a turn style. He struggled in a position he hadn't played or practiced at in years. Seemed to get it together as he got more reps at the position. Put him back at center where there were ZERO issues with him. I couldn't give a rats *** that he wore a free Hernandez hat. So the F what - it's his friend. Sometimes we stand by our friends when they get into some crap that maybe in hindsight we shouldn't. That makes him a questionable character??? Lets open up ANOTHER HUGE hole on the offensive line because you know we have so much depth that we should get rid of a pro bowl center. I'm confused.
     
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  19. jw3102

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    I really don't see a need to sign either one of them to a new contract at this time.

    Everyone assumes Pouncey will be the same player he was,once he is moved back to center. While that may end up being true, the fact is that he was just a mediocre player last year and perhaps they should wait and see how he plays next year before deciding to give him a new contract.

    Tannehill is under contract for the 2015 season and the Dolphins have the option for the 2016 season. While he has shown improvement each season, the reality is that the Dolphins have a sub 500 record during his three years as the teams starting QB.

    I think they could have had a similar record with Matt Moore as the starter the past three years. I think they should just opt to pick up the option for 2016 and wait and see how Tannehill continues to develop before signing him to a high dollar, long term contract.

    There will be plenty of time to sign Tannehill to a new contract if he takes that next step up in his development. If on the other hand his play reaches a plateau and he doesn't continue to show progress in his development.The next head coach will probably not want to be burdened with a QB who is taking up a lot of the cap space, while he will probably be searching for Tannehill's replacement.
     
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  20. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    He was 14th in 2013. Probowl isn't the marker. Probably somewhere in between...not top 3.
     
  21. Marino1385

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    Anyone cheaper to own then tannehill until someone comes around worth drafting.
     
  22. scotty_irnbru

    scotty_irnbru Well-Known Member

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    Ridiculous.
     
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  23. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Coaches and players count for 2/3rd's of the voting for a player to get a Pro Bowl nod. The Pro Bowl is A marker. It might mot be the only marker. Just like some stat house number that puts him at 14 isn't the end all be all marker.

    The marker to me is he was great at center on the Dolphins and the league considers him a top tier center and we can't lose top tier lineman as short as we are now.
     
  24. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    It is all opinion, no matter whom I say, and whether or not you would agree. But, I think you could make a case that at least the following Centers are better:
    1. Alex Mack
    2. Jason Kelce
    3. Nick Mangold
    4. Maurkice Pouncey
    5. Ryan Kalil
    6. Travis Frederick
    7. Max Unger
     
  25. VManis

    VManis Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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  26. dolphin25

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    I'm not a huge fan of Tannehill, but he is nowhere no how as horrible as fiedler, I still shudder at that name.
     
  27. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    ROFL. Is that true? If so, that means he thinks really highly of him.
     
  28. VManis

    VManis Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yep, its in the link. Even after all these years he holds Fielder as the example of what a QB should be.
     
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  29. Silverphin

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    To be fair, Fiedler had his moments.
     
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  30. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Jaybird's problems were largely due to his being so often dinged up. Had he been able to play all 16 in both 2002 and 2003, I think we had playoff caliber teams those seasons. Ya gotta give the guy credit for being so fearless out there. Trouble was his body couldn't hold up.
     
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  31. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    That and a very weak arm. He really needed some extra zip on the ball, he just couldn't manipulate his velocity much as he had to throw it hard to have a shot to begin with. His arm strength was a real limitation. He would often over throw the ball which IMO lead to many an interception.
     
  32. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    Jay Fielder looked like Squeak from the movie "BASEketball".
     
  33. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Even with his arm, such as it was, if he could have stayed healthy, the team would have very likely made the playoffs in 2002 and 2003.
     
  34. Unlucky 13

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    I am completely convinced that Wanny wanted to win his way so badly (ie, with defense and the running game), that he knowingly chose to run with the worst starting QB in the league year after year (Fiedler) to prove his point to the world, and to show that you didn't need a QB to be successful. Cut off his nose to spite his face.
     
  35. fins4o8

    fins4o8 Mac FTW!

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    He was nearly right but the defense failed amongst others in the end.
     
  36. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    Ain't that the truth.

    At the very least, though, he wasn't Trent Green.
     
  37. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    However the RT comparison to Feidler was kind of ridiculous. I guess other than Ryan having a very strong arm, and being very tough and durable, they are kind of the same. Poor ol' Wanny. Sounds like he is losing it.
     
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  38. JOHN_M

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    People actually listen to pornstache!?


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  39. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    Wrong thread.
     
  40. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Which explains why after Marino retired he opted not to draft a QB but Jamar Fletcher instead, despite already being stacked at CB with Madison, Surtain and T-Buck(whom he let go to the Patriots).
     

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