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Fangio will give them freedom

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Finatik, May 3, 2023.

  1. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Dolphins players have been in the facility for the team’s offseason program for the last few weeks and that’s allowed them to get a taste of life with defensive coordinator Vic Fangio.

    Fangio was hired after the Dolphins fired Josh Boyer at the end of the 2022 season and the team is only at the beginning of the effort to install his defense. Linebacker Jerome Baker has already seen enough to point out one major difference between the two schemes, however.

    “There were a lot of rules: ‘This is what it has to be. This matchup has to be this matchup,’ Baker said, via Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald. “There was no talking with the guys. This defense is players figure it out. There are no set rules on how far to drop. There’s a lot more freedom. It gives me some freedom to go out there and play ball.”

    Baker and other holdovers on the Miami defense will be working with new teammates like linebacker David Long and cornerback Jalen Ramsey while they work to get the new defense under their belts ahead of the start of the 2023 season. Miami hopes the mix leads to better results than they had in 2022.
     
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  2. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I'm very excited about this defense.
     
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  3. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    I think X also alluded to not being able to play "his game". With Ramsey and X this should be a good secondary. The pass rush needs to get there and help them out. Chubb needs to make a jump this year also.
     
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  4. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    Jevon Holland will be able to go back to doing his thing, instead of having to be a Swiss Army knife and watch over all the new faces.
     
  5. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, this D has potential to be beastly. If Phillips continues to ascend and be dominant...forget bout it.
    Holland has already shown to be special at times. Now with Fangio? .....should be wild. We could still use some depth at DT, but things are looking good. With the teams and QBs they'll be facing this year, the better be ready to kick some arse.
     
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  6. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I said it in another thread, I truly believe this defense under Fangio is going to make our offense deadly, giving the offense more “at bats”.

    It was so frustrating last season seeing the Dolphins defense putting the opposing offense in 3rd and long…3rd and a mile and they would STILL convert the 1st down.

    I don’t see this year’s defense repeating last season’s fiasco. I’m really seeing quite a few 3 and outs on opposing teams.

    Would love to see Fangio take a page out of “Remember the Titans” playbook.

     
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  7. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Not just last year - EVERY FREAKING YEAR. If they could just clean this up they would win 2 more games a year. Easy.
     
  8. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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    With X, Ramsey, Kohoe, and (hopefully) Cam Smith, we might have the secondary that can give Chubb and Phillips the extra second to get to the QB. Having a good back end - including the safeties - will make the guys up front more effective.
     
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  9. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    Don’t forget about Trill Williams - they were really high on him in camp last year, and his rehab is on track for him to be ready for this year’s camp.
     
  10. dolphin25

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    I'd rather the other team be 3rd and short then 3rd and long :) seems to be auto first down on 3rd and long.
     
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  11. dolphin25

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    I predict Baker will have a monster year.
     
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  12. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    After a report emerged that Eagles consultant Vic Fangio was poised to become the defensive coordinator in Miami, questions emerged as to whether he’d succeed Jonathan Gannon in Philly, if/when Gannon left. According to Adam Schefter of ESPN.com, the tampering shenanigans involving the Cardinals and Gannon resulted in Fangio not sticking around.

    “The interesting part about it would be this, I think it impacted a lot of peoples’ lives,” Schefter said in an appearance on 97.5 The Fanatic. “Vic Fangio, for example, probably would not have taken the Dolphins defensive coordinator job and would be the defensive coordinator in Philadelphia today if everything was on the up and up. And so it didn’t just impact the Cardinals and their job with Jonathan Gannon, it impacted others as well. . . . So I think that are certain people that might not be pleased with the way everything went down.”

    Schefter didn’t elaborate on the connection between the Gannon tampering and Fangio moving on. Apparently the Eagles didn’t realize Gannon would be leaving before the door closed on keeping Fangio around. While Schefter tiptoed around saying it, he seems to think this thing was a bigger mess than we’ve all been led to believe. “I think everybody knows, in any line of work, if they’re on an expiring contract or they’re under consideration, they still have responsibilities to their employer to finish the job the right way,” Schefter said. “In this particular case, I just think the Eagles weren’t comfortable with the information that they learned and Jeffrey [Lurie] brought it up to Michael Bidwill, and this is where the organizations wound up.”

    The problem is that the entire ordeal ended up being swept under the rug, with the goal of minimizing any attention paid to the situation, in the hopes that no one will fully explore the rabbit hole. As the NFL often does in such situations, the goal is to plug it with cement and move on.
     
  13. Fishhead

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    Except when Miami gets caught doing it, then it’s a federal case and the league has to make a big production in order to “set an example “. Subsequent cases should result in more significant penalties, not lesser ones.

    What a joke.
     
  14. Pauly

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    That was because Flores was throwing himself on the floor kicking and crying in the middle of the supermarket.

    what the phins did is what all the teams do all the time, it’s just that Flores shone a spotlight on it because he he didn’t like getting fired for trying to ruin Tua and by default the entire point of tanking in the first place.
     
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  15. Dorfdad

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    Not sure I like the idea of just pure freedom like the post kinda stated. Some freedom when the players see a situation is ok. But just letting them free roam will cost us badly when teams have rhythm passing etc. We can not be playing 10-15 yards off the line like we did or giving up chunk yardage across the middle!!
     
  16. Fishhead

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    Defensive play calls like the one that cost us the Chargers game will not happen under Fangio, I can assure you.
     
  17. dolphin25

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    Baker was implying before they had to be in a certain spot, they could not cheat in a certain direction or anything their natural ability\feel to want them to do.
     
  18. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    It's Vic Fangio. Everywhere he goes he has a good to great defense.
     
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  19. Tin Indian

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    Trill is the Guy I want to see out there.
     
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  20. Fishhead

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    If he plays to the potential he showed last year and Smith lives up to his advance billing, our secondary is going to be on lockdown mode this season. Holland will be getting big hits and timely picks. QBs will have to hold the ball, waiting in vain for someone to get open, setting themselves up for sack after sack….
     
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  21. dolphin25

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    I've heard some talk of his scheme being a zone scheme. I found that interesting since X is a press guy.
     
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  23. Serpico Jones

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    I would be shocked if Fangio and McDaniel have spoken one word to each other in six months.
     
  24. djphinfan

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    Troll alert abort abort !!
     
  25. The_Dark_Knight

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    Okay, I’ll bite…

    Why do you believe that?
     
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