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Fins are going to visit with Earl Thomas

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by mroz, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...gh-love-from-the-miamis-bank-vault-restr.html

    "Gibril Wilson was a bust so he's gone. Antrel Rolle and Ryan Clark didn't feel enough love from Miami's bank vault. Restricted free agency hasn't been an answer for Miami's free safety issues and neither Tyrone Culver nor Chris Clemons are probably the answer, either.

    No wonder the Dolphins have scheduled a visit with Texas free safety Earl Thomas for the first week of April."


     
  2. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I always thought he would be top 3 of Miami's picks at 12..although I wish they would trade down, then get him, 12 is a little high for him...
     
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  3. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    Personally, I think it is down to Thomas and B Graham. I wouldnt mind either guy at 12.
     
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  4. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I think Williams is there too...Parcells loves NT's....
     
  5. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    ahh, I don't think Williams is worth a 1st round pick much less the 12th over all pick. Taking Williams would be a huge mistake IMO.
     
  6. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I don't, Williams is described as being as raw as Paul Soliai was when he came out of Utah, right now Williams has jumped from a 5th rd pick prior to the 09 season, all the way up to the mid first rd?

    Not seein' it Bro.
     
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  7. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    i don't think there is a chance we go safety with the first pick
    they will take care of this in house or possibly still bring someone in
    a parcells team has never taken a safety that early and it doesn't start now
    i still think we go OLB
     
  8. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I can see it though Killahp, only "if" they see Earl Thomas as a once every ten yrs player at his position, which he very well could be, ballhawking FS's that can also cover man to man are rare, and he is only 20 or 21.

    Earl Thomas is a player I really like, if I were Ireland I'm not sure if I could pull the trigger on him, but I also think if we take him we will not regret it.
     
  9. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    Agreed, when you think about it if you hit on E Thomas you have a starting FS for the next 10+ years. Combine that with Smith and Davis and you are set (for the most part) in your defensive backfield for years to come.
     
  10. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    Couldnt you pretty much say the samething for the CB position before last season?
     
  11. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Exactly, and we all saw the Bills ride a great secondary on an otherwise mediocre team to a far better record than what they would have had otherwise.

    Difference is they did find J Byrd in rd #2, not #12.
     
  12. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    IMO the top of their board is Bryant, E. Thomas and Graham. Spiller might be in there as well.

    There been some rumors from an insider that Thomas is high on their board (I think they said that Thomas was among their top 5 players) and since they've now met with him twice, I don't see how anybody can doubt that he's a strong consideration.

    I don't see Williams as a possibility. IMO he's over rated and he doesn't fit what they're looking for. If they go NT in the first, which I think is very unlikely, I see Odrick as a stronger possibility.
     
  13. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

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    Also when's the last time a Parcells team went 2 years in a row without drafting a LB. 16 picks without a LB.

    I ignore everyone who thinks they have the Parcells/Ireland regime drafting trends figured out
     
  14. bakedmatt

    bakedmatt Well-Known Member

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    Is anyone else worried about starting rookie free safety?
     
  15. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    You're probably right Raffy. But, in the back of my mind I can't help but wonder if maybe it's all just a smoke screen. I mean, while many thought they were going CB with the first pick last year, few thought it would be Davis. Of ourse, few thought he'd still be on the board at #25 too. But, it could be their targeting another S in the 2nd or 3rd round (or later), and they're just trying to keep everyone off balance.

    Just a thought...
     
  16. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    Personally I don't care where we get the player as long as he is a player.
     
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  17. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    all this effort to find a FS. and none to find a #1 wr.
     
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  18. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    I am more worried about starting a Guy that can't play. Sure a rookie is going to have some growing pains but I am OK with hat as long as there is progress.
     
  19. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Not saying I would have him, saying he would be in their board....Earl Thomas is a guy I have had intrigue with for a while at 12, actually got clowned on here a couple of times when I said so....
     
  20. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Draft season is a marathon FY, one day a guy is up, the next day, down.

    I liked D Morgan at #12 after I did not like him, now Mayock is saying he struggles in space.

    Eh, whaddyagoing to do?


    Fougetaboutit.
     
  21. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    hahaha true true...much like FA...your boy from the sticks is real high on him still though....

    Jeff_Darlington
    Sorry, bud. Source says he's still visiting with the team as of 2 p.m. Nothing to report yet. RT @direcsat07: hey anything yet on icognito?
     
  22. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    They could be, but IIRC last year every one of our picks was somebody they'd spoken to and the majority were prospects they'd spoken to more than once. So while their interest in Thomas may be a smokescreen, I think it's more likely that he's a consideration at #12.
     
  23. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    There probably isn't a player we could draft who we wouldn't have some concerns about starting day 1. Whomever we draft will be worked in on some plays and will probably have some screw-ups. I'm no more concerned about starting a FS as I am about starting a WR or OLB.
     
  24. Jaj

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    Probably the biggest day one impact player the team can find. He'd be an immediate difference-maker as a deep cover safety with two large CBs on the outsides supporting him. Everything over the top though isn't a jump ball though. Sure it won't help him that he's 5-10, but it's not the end of the world.

    I would not be annoyed if we drafted Thomas, signed a veteran WR like Holt, drafted an OLB, and drafted a TE in the third round.
     
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  25. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I can see this happening actually....good call...
     
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  26. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    This is huge!
     
  27. 2k5

    2k5 I miss Ted Ginn Jr.

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    :huh:
     
  28. Gitrdone

    Gitrdone New Member

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    WR, S, OLB hopefully all in the mix, I wouldn't be shocked based on how things go if Mcclain was an option still. I mean could Crowder move outside? I have heard Mcclain could play all LB spots, comments?
     
  29. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Earl Thomas is very much worth the #12 overall pick. I saw pretty much every Texas game last year (sadly) and he is a playmaker, and he doesn't take plays off. He isn't the best tackler against larger more powerful backs, however he is a VERY solid tackler as far as receivers go and can lay a hit. Plus he is a ball hawk.
     
  30. anlgp

    anlgp ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A

    nah a starting vet was burned consistently last year. what's the difference? at least the rook has upside. hopefully.
     
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  31. PHINANALYST

    PHINANALYST Well-Known Member

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    i believe that unless Berry falls to us, then we will take Allen or Burnett in rd 2 ...

    Thomas is 'small' for their prototype .... so he has to 'wow' them, for them to consider taking him at 12 - or at all.

    at OLB, I am on board with either Kindle or Morgan .... unless, just like Thomas - Graham, Hughes or even Worilds can 'wow' them, since they are all 'small' ... the good news with Morgan is that he could play DE or OLB ... and this regime does take DEs early (albeit, i believe that they really like Carrington in rd 3).
     
  32. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Isn't Brandon Graham too small for our defense?
     
  33. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    It amazes me that people would be happy with drafting a safety that cannot tackle with the 12th pick of the draft, particularly when more complete safety prospects will be available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
     
  34. padre31

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    The dolphins defense needs a ball hawk more than run support Kb.
     
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  35. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    No offense dude but how often do you plan on posting the same exact thing?
     
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  36. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    even more amazing is this guy starts for a team that went to a national championship, and is considered a top 15 pick by many experts......and he "cant tackle"

    mind blowing.
     
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  37. Boomer

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    Funny because Michael Lombardi, whose opinion I rate a little more than Keith's, agrees with most of us:

    "At 5-foot-10, 208 pounds, Thomas has outstanding instincts, range and is a physical tackler."

    Thomas is flying to Miami tonight BTW, will eat with the Dolphins brass and then workout tomorrow at the facility.
     
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  38. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    The Dolphins are also flying in Mark Sanchez to throw Thomas some interceptions.
     
  39. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Well I'm not a draft expert by any stretch but a quality starting safety would improve our defense. I guess Berry is a pipe dream but a quality starter would be a good place to...start.
     
  40. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    I just don't see the Dolphins picking one player and saying "that is the guy we are going to draft". There are so many variables involved and so many possibilities. At pick #12 we will surely see some players picked sooner than we expected and some players slide further than we expected. Not only can this play into who we may select but also who another team picking behind us might want who is still available at #12. I would love to see the Dolphins fall into an opportunity to trade the 12th pick for a later 1st rounder and additional picks. The Dolphins as yet don't have the luxory of just needing one or two players or one or two positions.
    The real value of this draft is the depth of good players there are available not in the number of great players there are available at the beginning of the draft.
     

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