I mean we'll just agree to disagree. They went 9-7 last year and went to the playoffs because Chicago & Detroit both choked down the stretch. How is that quality? They were 9-7. For the last 3 years they've lost in the first round...by a lot. They're only a playoff team in name because division winners have to be and that division is insanely overrated. How is there offense loaded? Their WRs are fantastic, yes. But would you say that's at all a product of how good Aaron Rodgers is? Like honestly, what did Randall Cobb do well today on his TD? He just ran around while Rodgers did and found a hole. By any stretch, how is that him being really good? Jordy Nelson is fantastic player. He'd automatically be our #1 WR, but he's not a guy that's just a beast. For the most part, Miami had him locked down pretty well until Brent Grimes fell down on every play. Not taking anything away from Jordy, he's great, but again, could he not be the product of Aaron Rodgers...even just a little bit? Their running game sucks. It just sucks. They should be able to run for chunks of yards but they can't. Clay Matthews hasn't been good since 2012. That's around the same time Julius Peppers was relevant. I mean seriously. Check their stats. Look at PFF statistics. Look at whatever deep peripheral you need. Those "2 great pass rushers" were great. And I'm sure because they go to a Pro Bowl they are too, but they're not. We HANDLED them today. Other than Peppers getting in on Pouncey with an early stunt, they did absolutely nothing all game. Nothing. I mean their secondary is good. OK, but I'd hardly say it's outstanding. They are well coached, but how does that make the talent on the field good? I'm sorry I disagree. I don't think they're nearly as talented as people make them out to...or their division. It's rotten.