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For those that think JT's skills are failing

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dgb11112, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. dgb11112

    dgb11112 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 23, 2008
    Ok for everyone that states JT is old, skills have diminished and he isn't worth it anymore at age 33. Let's take a look at the real facts. NMichael Strahan is 36, he had 9 sacks last year with help around him. It isn't JT's fault that the rest of the team was so poor and injured. He is still a top DE/LB and would be an assest with the team when our rebuilding program.

    Take another step and look at the intangibles and history. BP has built teams that were terrible and made them competive within 2-3 years. At that time JT will be 35-36. The same age as Strahan; encompass this with better players being built around him and with him he could have at least close to the same sucess.

    Now on the other hand if we were to get TOP TOP value for him and he really wants to get a chance to go to the SB then retire then it makes sense to let him go.

    The reason I'm posting this is because of all of the people complaining about his skills and age.

    Compare against top 3 DE for the past season he had 47 Solo tackles and still 11 sacks.

    The top DL in the NFL Jared Allen who had 55 and 15.5 sacks and is only 28.

    Must note that Patrick Kearney is 33 as well and had 60 tackles and 14.5 sacks.

    Michael Strahan He is the same age as JT again with a stronger supporting cast and he is also 33. JT 2007 stats 47 tackles and 11 sacks :ffic:
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  2. Miamifan1354

    Miamifan1354 Not Good Enough.

    Jan 3, 2008
    The problem is that JT has already stated that he is thinking about retirement. If doesn't want to play, then he doesn't have to. If he wants to play some where else, then we should let him. Right now, he is saying all of the right things to the media, but anything said behind closed doors will never come out.

    I don't think anyone would argue that he's worth keeping, but if he wants out, then that makes him worth trading.
  3. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    I don't think any of us think that his skills are diminishing, but this is the best time for us to get valuable compensation for his services. He won't be in our plans by the time the rest of the team gets better. By then, his skills will be diminishing. It only makes sense to try to move him out now, rather than later... But lets face it, he won't be moved out until draft day. If they move him now, it'll give away any leverage they may have for a trade down from #1...(not that I think there is a chance in ____ that there will be...)
  4. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

    Dec 2, 2007
    Kansas City, MO
    The other argument to consider is that we're not shopping JT because of his current skills. There's no denying the man can play. Keep in mind that we're several years away from contending, so the argument is to trade JT now, as opposed to later, to maximize his value and hopefully get some good core folks that will be just hitting their prime in 3 years or so. We've got so many holes to fill, it doesn't make sense to keep someone who will become an aging passrush specialist by the time we're contenders again.
  5. DevilFin13

    DevilFin13 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Mar 22, 2008
    I'm not sure whether his skills have diminished significantly. But judging from his performance last year you have to wonder. The difference between last year and the year before in which he was the DPOY is like night and day.

    In 06 he was dominant. He beat LTs on a regular basis. He demanded double teams. He had that quick first step and showed good strength when he needed it. In 07 he couldn't beat average tackles. At least a few of his sacks where coverage sacks or cheap ones. He didn't force teams to double team him which didn't help the rest of the line, which was even worse at getting to the QB than he was.

    Given that he had just come off probably his best year ever makes it hard to conclude that he all of the sudden lost a step. I wouldn't rule it out. But I think it had more to do with what was going on between his ears than anything physical.
  6. PhinsRock

    PhinsRock Premium Member Luxury Box

    I think last year was an anomaly, JT still has tremendous skills, but his heart wasn't there last year and he had no talent around him plus Capers really stunk up the place. JT will be a top-3-5 Dl/OLB in this league for at least 2 more years. But that being said, trading him is the only thing that makes sense right now, for his sake and for ours.

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