For those who didn't want to trade Marshall....

BTW, for whoever said that Brandon Marshall dropped 2 td's last week...

The tell tale numbers say that he dropped one pass and it was not in the end zone.

 

His best games were against the best teams. Go ahead, look it up. That's just a fact.

 

Did he have drops as a Dolphin? Absolutely, no denying it. And it was frustrating. But he his leaps and bounds better than any WR on our roster.

 

They're not exaggerated. He literally dropped as many TDs as he caught, if not one or two more unfortunately. I can understand 1 or 2 drops, but he should've had 10+ TDs last year. It's to the point where his dropped TDs were almost making him into more of a glorified possession receiver for much of the season.

 

In 2011 it was pretty true. Against lesser or medicore teams he was pretty medicore.

In 2010 that was less true.

 

That is true. I am more upset with the not drafting of Stephan Hill than the trading of Brandon Marshall. Or at least sign someone who could help fill the void.

I can understand why they wanted to trade him, I do not really understand why they did so little to replace him.

 

In 2010, his two best games came vs. the Super Bowl Champion, and the runner up int he AFC? Those are two pretty good teams no?

 

EXACTLY.

I don't understand why this is so hard to understand.

 

BTW..this thread must mean that it is okay to make a thread every time that Marshall has a big game?

Sorry I missed the opportunity to start a thread last week.

 

Exactly, and what kind of impact did Marshall have b/c of it? None.

This game was an example of how everything fans have ranted about (keeping the disgruntled, problematic Brandon Marshall and using a 2nd round pick on a WR like Alshon Jeffrey) can be absolutely meaningless vs a good defense.
I'll take Philbin's developing "system" over Marshall and Jeffrey any day of the week. Packers didn't even have Greg Jennings and they could still win that game in convincing fashion.

It's all about Philbin's offensive system, developing Tannehill, winning the battle in the trenches, stout & consistent defense, and great special teams play.

 

I bet the Bears would've rather had Jonathan Martin at LT tonight than Alshon Jeffrey at WR.
Receivers mean very little if your QB has no time to get them the ball.

 

That feeling when you KNOW you should have glossed over the thread, but you open it and read it anyway. Smh.

 

Let me guess:

This has devolved into a Jeff Ireland thread.

 

Wide open you say??? So he can do a minimum of one thing our current WRs cannot.

 

Did you not witness the clinic JJ Watt put on HIM last week? Announcers and analysts said(as well as my eye balls) it was as dominant and productive of a game a d-lineman could possibly have.

 

True, but that was a different type of dominant game. He wasn't planting Tannehill on his arse every snap the way Matthews was Cutler.

 

yeah, he's off to a horrific season:

11 catches 143yds 1td

If he does nothing for another week, maybe even two... he will still best our roster with those current numbers.

 

1.5 sacks, and he almost cut the kid in half on one of em.

 

I'm not taking away from that, but IMO it was considerably less than what Matthews did as far as pressuring the QB is concerned.... but that's par for the course considering Watt is a 3-4 DE where as Matthews is a pass rusher.

 

Wow, you guys are really feeding the troll.

 

Jeffery was on the board when we took Martin. Sanu was on the board for both our 3rd round picks.
Would we be ahead right now with Jeffery, Sanu and Egnew, or Jeffery, Vernon and Sanu? We could have addressed RT with Bobby Massie in the 4th, who is starting for Zona. So we wouldn't gotten Miller, but then would have kept Slaton.
I like Matthews, but have to think giving Tannehill two WRs like Jeffery and Sanu would have given him a nice pair to have developed with, and shown a real attempt to replace Marshall's catches and yardage.

 

I don't think anyone is doubting the fact that he is better than all of our current wide receivers (if they are they are senile), but just trying to cope with trading away Marshall for all his off the field issues he had with team/staff. He also didn't really produce the TD numbers we all expected when he arrived here from Denver and the game tonight showed what we all saw while he was here, which was too many dropped TD passes. There is no doubt Ireland needs to replace not just the production he gave us but the receiving threat that other teams have to account for day in and day out.

 

As for whether those who opposed the trade were justified, perhaps it would make more sense to wait until the end of the season, to see how the Bears do, how he did over the course of the season, and how well his replacement(s) do in Miami.

 

i don't know if i can post something thats negative without getting it deleted like you screamed for in that"positive fan thread" but i think you got your point across now, you don't like BM and thats ok, to say we are better off with him is just plain stupid though, what he did on the football field with all the attention he got can´t be underestimated and i don't care if he dropped 10 TD's when he was here, he was making it easier for his teammates out there, he went off for 9 catches and 119 yards and 1 TD last week amassing 15 targets, of course it was quiet until that game tonight, where besides his drop he couldn't do anything to get the ball because cutler was running for his life all game.....brandon marshall is a top 5 receiver in this league...and there is no way around it

 

He is not a top 5 WR, clear #1, yes, but not top 5

 

Is it apparent yet that the Green Bay Packers miss Joe Philbin? Or is it coincidence?

 

Its not like having 1 guy get those stats did anything for our team. We had an one dimensional passing threat. Our offense was actually worse in yards and points with Marshall than without.

 

Marshall showed exactly what he was last night in Green bay. He can dominate weak talent like the Colts and can be taken away by good talent like the Packers.

People forgot they played the Colts last week. A lot of average talent has looked good against the Colts secondary for years.

 

That's not exactly true.

He played well against NE but:
- 2 games against the Jets was a combined 159 yrds and 0 TDs in a split.

- HOU 79 yrds 1 TD Loss
- SD 52 yrds 0 TDs Loss
- DEN 61 yrds 0TDs Loss
- NYG 55 yrds 0 TDs Loss
- PHI 27 yrds 1 TD Loss
- DAL 103 yrds 1 TD Loss (Hey look a good game)

I wouldn't call that coming through against the best teams at all. Quite frankly, maybe if he actually had come through our record would have been different.

 

Yes, Marshall dropped balls for the Dolphins and he was a Diva at times. He also was a Pro Bowl receiver and the only legitimate #1 receiver the Dolphin have had in years. Instead the Dolphins now have zero catch Naanee and the third round pick the Dolphins got in the 2012 draft for him was Egnew. A player who was on the inactive list last week because he isn't even the second best TE on a team where TE is a weakness.

So far the Marshall trade made with the Bears, has been 100% in favor of the Bears.