I think the only reason it even looks a little bit like a legal, backwards lateral is that Brown was behind Big Ben when he actually threw the ball. He then moves about two yards forward to catch it. As such, it makes it visually difficult to fully determine if it's forward or backward. After watching all the camera angles available, looking at every picture, etc., it would seem it was at least a little bit forward. But like we're all thinking - it likely wasn't enough forward on video to be overturned, and that's the sickening part, just how close we came to an historic, painful, gut-wrenching loss that we would see replayed over again until we're all 106. Now, it'll be gone after a few days/weeks, and will - eventually - be one of those things we laugh about.
I`m not sure what to call it but its been consuming me I`ll tell you that. After watching it a few dozen more times it appears that when Ben under hand spiraled it, it looks like the ball starts forward then actually has a backwards trajectory to it. I still believe its a forward lateral but, damn its close. Someone a few posts back (don't remember who), said something that makes a lot of sense. If this was a normal offensive play and Ben tossed the ball to his wide receiver before getting sacked it DEFINITELY would have been called a pass completion and Y.A.C. ,not a lateral and rushing yards. And, for arguments sake if Brown dropped it under those circumstances it would be ruled incomplete, not a fumbled lateral.
The thing that really irks me about the play is that nobody posted up Brown as soon as the 1st lateral occurred.
Odrick, Wake, Carroll, Wheeler, all should be slapped for their lack of hustle. I can't wait to see the coaches tape so I can add to the list.
Hope it teaches them a damn lesson to hustle for all 60 mins. Especially with the NE Dbags coming in this weekend. They need to "Geno" Brady early, often, and ALL damn game.
It would have been hard to overturn Big Ben's lateral, I agree, but the bigger issue with that play was the fact half the Steelers team wasn't set when the ball was snapped.
Its the ball. The ball is always where it is. The various body parts just determine when the balls motion stops. Example: Polomalu td return.
LOL to this: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/11/nfl-says-roethlisberger-lateral-was-legal/
The NFL calls it a legal play, but watching it again and again... I'm not sure what theyre lookin at.
That last play made me think: why aren't plays involving laterals used more often in the NFL? Sure, it's risky and may result in a fumble and a score the other way, but if properly designed, trained and executed it can catch the defense completely off guard. I mean, it looked like our players weren't expecting it in the final minutes of the game when it should be expected, imagine executing a play with a couple of laterals in the middle of the game...
I've always wondered that too. I've seen many opportunities for it to work. A Hartline toss to Wallace could be a big play. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRgdyexqBAM
I'm not a big fan of some of PFT's semantics either, but the upshot is that "inconclusive" would have resulted in the play standing if it had been reviewed, as per the lateral. So maybe not legal, but considered legal and Pittsburgh wins- I see your point though, Mike Florio is once again trying to make a splash with a catchy article title.
Exactly, and I can remember a few instances where the players were actually in a position to do something like this.
An illegal forward pass beyond the line of scrimmage is beyond the line only if the ball and the entirety of the passers body is beyond the line. I didn't see where the rules defined the situation in question. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk