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I'm intrigued. Foster knows how to be a back.
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Foster is done. He missed almost all of last year with a severe groin tear and then tore his Achilles. His entire injury history is littered with soft tissue and ligament injuries. We already have Cam Wake on the roster, we don't need to sink anymore money into players with devastating injuries that more often than not, end careers.
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We need help at RB, and Foster is at the top of a very short list of free agent veterans. It isn't like we have a ton of options. Besides, all we need is a guy who can contribute one season until next year's draft, which I think might have a historically great list of RB prospects.
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If he's paid much more than the minimum, it costs us cap space that we could otherwise roll over into 2017. He would also cut into Ajayi and Drake's playing time, giving everyone less of a look at what those two can do, and cloud whether or not we should spend a high pick on a RB in next year's draft. There are of course positive possibilities if he could play as well as he did in 2014, but I don't think that the odds are very high of that.
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We need another back to have meaningful touches. Foster has a high ceiling and will come at a cheap price. Where's the downside? Won't stump Ajayi or Drakes development.
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Depth, experience and potential starter. That is what we need. Jury is out on every back on this team. Foster is the perfect fit, if healthy enough. Does not want a long term deal. Does want to be the man. Has the Gase skill set.
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How was Jay's pass protection last year? Just curious. One thing to think about is having that liability, esp on third and long or obvious passing situations. You gotta think outside the box and forward. It is not about long term or taking away touches. This was to be expected as camp comes closer.
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Pass pro is a known weakness for Ajayi, and Drake looked poor in that aspect in minicamp.
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I can't believe I'm about to defend Mike Tannenbaum...
He did put together a roster that had them get to consecutive AFC Championship games with those guys.
Either way, my disagreement is that our roster isn't constructed with older players near the end of their rope. I think there is an argument to be made that we have some key players who are injury prone, but outside a few that I can name, what are the players you are referring to?
Cam Wake is 34.
Mario Williams is 31 (I believe he has 4-5 years left if he wants it)
Branden Albert is 31 (I believe he has 4-5 years left if he wants it and can remain healthy)
Other than that, we are insanely young.
Last year, we were the 3rd youngest team in the NFL averaging 25.95 years. They will increase a little with the substitution of Williams/Vernon, but we'll still be Top 5 most likely.
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Go ahead. Bring in Arian Foster. The running game's success and future will be determined by the progress made by Jay Ajayi. The organization made a decision to move on from Lamar Miller. Arian Foster, coming off injuries to his groin and achilles, isn't going to do much to make fans forget Lamar Miller (while he's tearing it up in Houston).
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The same Miller that struggled all year except for two games?
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I'll pass on an aging vet with a serious injuy history whose best years are behind him.
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Assuming the money is reasonably low, the only person who should be against this is Damien Williams.
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Daniel Thomas says hello :lol:
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Nah. The same Lamar Miller that finished 10th in the NFL in rushing yards, 2nd in yards per carry, and was a Jamaal Charles clone in 2014.
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No offense, but this is a superficial take and is also short-sighted.
1. The groin injury is over and done with. He had a successful surgery and many players have come back from that. He was healthy enough to play in four games and get two straight games of 18 carries.
2. The achilles is a tough injury but given today's medical advancements, numerous players have come back from achilles tears. Terrell Suggs returned to action for the Ravens 5 1/2 months after he tore his achilles. Just after his 30th birthday. He had a big playoff run and contributed to the Ravens SB win in 2012. He had two very good seasons after that. This is at a position DE/OLB where leg explosion, quickness is critical. Foster has had 9 months since his achilles. He won't turn 30 for another month. If he works out well, and is healthy, then that is what matters
3. Age doesn't matter given where Miami is. It's not like he's going to get a massive deal, nor that Miami doesn't have cap space ($17 M under right now). And who cares if there are more vets on the team coming off injury? Either they can play or they can't. Your other option is Thomas - who is utterly worthless; Williams - who is not an every down type of back, and may not even make the team with Drake on it; Drake - a rookie who is really more of a 3rd down RB than an every down player; and Ajayi who has never started a game. He will be the starter; should be solid; but you can't guarantee he'll be healthy and there is no every down back after him. You literally have to have two every-down backs in the league these days.
4. Foster would not be signed to be a 25 carry starting RB. He's being considered as a player who can legitimately spell Ajayi. He'd be the only back on the roster who could do that. He can rest Ajayi. He should be able, if his achilles is healthy, to handle 8-12 carries easy - which is just what Miami needs as a reserve for Ajayi. And, occasionally near the end of the season he can get more carriers. He also adds a lot of experience, leadership, and instruction in the classroom and on the sideline. This is the ideal type of situation for him and for Miami.
Watch the Cardinals All or Nothing on Amazon and you'll see the value of a vet RB.
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Nope. They're not.
Got them straight from NFL.com
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=RUSHING&conference=null&season=2014&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=RUSHING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1
In 2014, Lamar Miller's stats were nearly identical to Jamaal Charles'.
Here is Lamar's from that year: http://www.nfl.com/player/lamarmiller/2533034/profile
Here is Jamaal's from that year: http://www.nfl.com/player/jamaalcharles/925/profile
Only thing different was Charles getting 4 additional receiving TDs. He did that on 12 more catches, that only produced 16 additional receiving yards. Lamar actually had more total yards in 2014.
Again, I'd say in that year the two were nearly identical - ypc, rushing TDs, receiving yards, total yards, long runs (20+ and 40+). Very similar that year.Finster likes this. -
Maybe another Moreno situation .He was dominant while he was healthy ...one game I believe he lasted.
Then again if he is used sparingly in certain situations like scoring TDs while close to the end zone he may last longer .
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Very few RB numbers open. I wonder if Foster will take #34, now that Damian Williams has taken Miller's old #26. Handful of others that will obviously open up as players are cut.