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Found out I'm being laid off

Discussion in 'Outreach Forum' started by FinSane, May 21, 2010.

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  1. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Yep, found out today that my company, Kehe Foods Distributing, which just recently bought out the company I've been working for, is going to lay off like 80% of their salesforce. This is due to a change in how we're doing business. We're a food distributing company that specializes in gourmet products, such as natural food, organic, kosher, ect. We also sell alot of common items as well. What we do is we carry products that major supermarket chains can't handle holding in their warehouse so we provide distribution for them. My job is to order the product and merchandise it when it arrives to the store on our trucks, and make commission. I've been making between $30,000-$35,000 doing this for just over two years now. I started at Publix in 2005 and in 2008 left to go work for this company since it provided a living wage, great benefits, a flexible work schedule, working independently, and usually for no more than 35 hours a week. It was almost too good to be true, it was a job that seemed right for me, at least for the time being. Me being 24, making a living wage is rare these days so I had to take the job seriously and I did.

    Now come 2010, we get bought out by a new company. We used to be called Tree of Life Inc, now we're called Kehe Foods. Publix, which is our largest account in the southeast region, has decided to put all of their vendors on their automated ordering system. Publix has all their grocery items that is directly distributing to their warehouse on automated replenishment, which eliminates the need for associates to order the store. Now they want to put all vendors on this system, eliminating the need for a salesmen who works on commission to order the products they don't have their warehouse. Since we're the biggest vendor for Publix they want to put us on this first. Now our company has known about this plan for a while now but we were never told our jobs would be in jeopardy. We all just assumed business would continue for us as usual, we just won't be ordering the stores but we're still needed to merchandise the product.

    But now our main competition, United Nation Foods Inc, which has distribution on many of the same items my company carries and they also have Publix as an account, but theyre only in the major stores. They told Publix they would carry our items but much cheaper, since Publix is trying to lower their prices due to competition from Wal-Mart and Winn-Dixie. Our company heard about it and told Publix we'll lower our profit percentage to keep business with them. But Publix also told them they want to have direct distribution on all our products, which is how our competitor does things. Their salesmen order the product and Publix clerks work the items. However, since all vendor items will now be on this new automated system, they're won't be any need for salesmen to be in the stores. Publix being our biggest account in the southeast, we would have to eliminate around 80% of the sales force. That's a lot of jobs being cut. We're a nationwide company, we even have distribution in Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean. But Publix is big business in my region, and it doesn't appear that my company is going to fight to keep our jobs. We do have distribution in Winn-Dixie, Wal-Mart and Sedanos, but its on a very limited basis. There's simply not enough business available in those stores. So me and most of the people I know have until September to find jobs. Things aren't 100% official yet but its looking like this is all going to go down.

    Im only 24 and don't have enough work experience, so this layoff stuff is pretty new to me. I'm not asking for sympathy, but I'd like to get some advice on how to deal with this and what maybe to expect. Obviously #1 Im going to start applying for other jobs. I already have my resume typed and ready to go. Im also consider transferring my 401k to a Roth IRA. Originally my company contributed to it but then they stopped before we got bought out by the new company, and the new company is privately owned and was going to put in a employee stock ownership program, but now that seems like its not going to happen. So I may need advice about that.

    I just feel sick to my stomach. I know the whole country is going through this. I know alot of members on here have gone through this and Im nothing special. But this is a pretty big deal. It really has got me looking at the big picture on alot of things. Welcome to the new economy, I guess I was born at the wrong time in history, it really is starting to feel that way. :sad:
     
  2. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Do your best to create an opportunity out of it.
     
  3. Killerphins

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    always have a plan
    i'm constantly looking to move just never laterally
    you are younger than me and you still have a lot of time
    never sell out the idea that you might just be someone who sticks around
    it happened to me recently and then i moved on
    keep your options open
    preparation is key and sounds like you have that going for you
    good luck man :up:
     
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  4. SICK

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    ^^ if his haiku poem doesnt inspire you. i dont know what will. chris, you know iam there if u need it bro, ive been there. call into my show tonight and vent :up:
     
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  5. eric

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    consider yourself lucky for getting a notice now about being laid off in september. a lot of people get far less time, some none at all.

    be prepared to take a job working harder, for more hours and less money... if you get one with how many people are out of work.
     
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  6. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Pretty sure. I only have two years at this company and Im one of the youngest employees. Since most of us are on commission, my pay isn't an issue as far as my employment goes, so its not like theyre going to be looking at pay vs. experience as far as who theyre going to keep around. But for me, Im 90% sure at this point Ill be let go along with alot of other hardworking people. My company did say theyre not going to let everyone go, they still need some people, but Im quite sure I won't be one of them. Im already in that mentality that my job is basically gone and I better start looking around this weekend.
     
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  7. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Very true. I know Im going to have to make concessions, but I don't want to lower my standard too far just yet. I do have 5 years experience in grocery and Im sure I cna go to any grocery company, but with all these massive layoffs im going to have to compete with some of my former co-workers for those jobs. Going to back to Publix where I started is an option but not a very good one. For starters, they pay just about minimum wage, theyre is little opportunity to just get full time. Part time is a joke since you usually only get less than 30 hours. The benefits are decent for part time but insurance is too expensive when youre getting paid less than $10/hour. Publix is going the Wal-Mart way of conducting business with their employees, unfortantely. They used to be a good company to work for at one time but they changed alot these past few years and not only would I be starting all over again, I actually would be alot worse off.

    So there's options and Im going to have to consider alot of them, but it surely could be alot worse.
     
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  8. unluckyluciano

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    update your resume, feel free to contact me if you need help with it. Im not great at it, but it never hurts to have a second pair of eyes. I would also recommend reading a book or two about interviews. It never hurts to have special advice. Monster.com is a great site do the paperwork , I'm sure it will work out. No matter what don't dwell on this too much. This sort of things happen especially when one company buys out another. Have confidence, get that swag, you'll land on your feet I'm sure.
     
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  9. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    I might send you a copy. :up:
     
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  10. Big E

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    You can always fall back on Publix for awhile bro.
     
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  11. King Felix

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    wow, sorry to hear brah :(
     
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  12. opfinistic

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    Ugh, sorry to hear it. Just went through a major shakeup myself which started with losing a job. Finally started working again after a few months off. I feel for you, keep positive and if you need anything get ahold of me.
     
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  13. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Thanks opie and everyone else for your support. Hopefully things turn around for the economy and we wont have to deal with this bull**** as much.
     
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  14. opfinistic

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    Wish in one hand, **** in the other. We need to rethink the way we do business in America if we want to get out of this hole that we're in. We've cut our own throats by outsourcing manufacturing to other countries, outsourcing Customer Service jobs in call centers, we've become a nation of consumers that doesn't build anything anymore. That's gotta change. Sorry for the rant.
     
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  15. Ohiophinphan

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    First of all, I am sorry to hear of your situation. That really stinks.

    Second, you need to know you are already doing the right things. You are updating your resume, have already begun considering options, and are networking among groups you are a part of.

    Other things to consider might be looking up getting more education. Large layoffs sometimes mean that the state is willing to give educational grants. That might help you get in pharmacuetical sales. Or if that is not your thing, look at what other industries may be similar to yours such as health and beauty aids to retail drug stores or tools/paint/hardware for home improvement stores. Do you play golf? I have a friend who used to make a very nice living calling of golf courses selling fertilizers, sand, etc. In short look at allied field where the skills of sales and ordering might still be in demand.

    Keep at it and feel free to ask questions here
     
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  16. unluckyluciano

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    dont talk just do it!!
     
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  17. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    while you can take the opportunity to have your resume professional written. Now------why you have the cash!! Trust me it is worth the effort and will pay off with a job paying more money. Do your homework though because not all resume writers are equal. Google articles about it and you will see what I mean.

    Also do not wait until September to get your new job. Summer help will be getting let go and it will be harder for you to find another position because of the increased competition.

    If you are considering a career change you may want to consider it now. Any thing medical will get it done. I hear the govt has alot invested in that field

    Good luck brother
     
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  18. Fin Fan In Cali

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    Bro sorry to hear about this. I appreciate you trying to hook me up when I was unemployed. First off get after it right away. You have to want it and be very hungry to get back out there and find a job. You have to study about a perspective company, re-tool yourself. By that make sure you re-invest in yourself by updating your resume, and make finding a new position with a great company your number one goal.

    Here is a great company for your resume. Ever since I got unemployed in July of 2008 I have been with them, and have had great success with catching attention with my resume. I have had several HR people say that my resume format was very impressive.

    http://www.rosshr.com/services.html

    My old company that I left a week ago. They are world wide, but have a lot of service centers through out the country. You maybe able to land a sales job, warehouse/driver position or maybe something else.

    http://jobsearch.monster.com/Search.aspx?brd=1&q=Pilkington&cy=us&lid=316&re=130

    If the link didn't work, then just go to monster, and type Pilkington in the job description field, and it will list all the job openings they may have. Check back often. The division I worked for was the Automotive after market glass division.

    I hope it helps. If I can help anymore please send me a pm. What part of the country are you in?:wink2:
     
  19. Boik14

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    Totally agree dude. We're too dependent on everyone else to do what we can do ourselves.

    Sorry to hear the bad news Finsane. Hopefully everything works out for you and you find a job that pays more. Having been unemployed I can tell you firsthand it blows but keep your head up and get after it now since you have the advanced notice since it may take you a few months to find something. If there's anything I can do to help out PM me. :hi5:
     
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  20. Fin Fan In Cali

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    It does blow bro I agree. You don't know the unknown of when the job will come, but you have to know in your heart there is a company that is seeking your skill set, and as hard as it is at times, you must keep the faith and drive alive!:yes: I know first hand. I wish you the very best bro in finding employment.:up:
     
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  21. FinSane

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    First of all, I wanna thank you guys for your kind wishes and advice, I really appreciate it. I usually try to keep my personal issues off this board, since I really don't like putting myself out there. But this is pretty heavy stuff and I'll take any advice I can get and I will consider it.

    So today we had a telephone conference meeting. Basically the company just told us what we already knew. It looks like this has been in the works for some time now, and they're just now getting around to letting us know. Of course they didn't say that but I got that impression from the meeting. It's practically already set in stone and I don't think our jobs will be saved. Now our company says they will keep some of us, but Im guessing roughly 70-80% of the sales force is for sure going to be let go, and me being one of the newer ones thats younger and the fact that I was recently switched from commission to salary due to a change in my route, I'm pretty sure I'm going to be one of the first ones to go. Thats just the reality of the situation.

    Now problem is, I could go to another vendor company, such as Kraft, Keebler, Nabisco, ect. However, it is only a matter of time before I'd have to go through the same thing all over again, since it seems Publix is determined to phase out of their vendors entirely and go directly to what we call "self-service". The obvious option then would be to go back to Publix, and that would make sense, but not for the long term, for the reasons I've already stated here. So I think I might have to get out of the grocery business altogether. Especially being here in south Florida, where there are no unions and grocery-related jobs don't pay well and the job security is virtually non-existant these days. Then again, in South Florida that seems to be the story when it comes to jobs all around. I dont want to be one of those who throws out excuses or looks at the glass as half-empty, but Im one of those who pays attention to the news, is well read up on history, and follows current trends in the economy, and Im telling you right now its very hard to be optimistic these days when it comes to jobs. I know Im capable of landing on my feet, I gained alot of confidence when I got this current job, I know I'll land another one sooner or later. But I can't help but be worried, with a car payment + insurance, bills, gas, food, rent...good thing I live with relatives, so my rent can be put off but I don't want to live here for free, I don't want to take advantage of living here. The whole point of me having this job was to continue to save up and eventually live on my own, which I couldn't do on a Publix salary. Now Im royally screwed, this is going to set me back at least another year, maybe longer, from doing what I had planned on doing. Im not even so much depressed as I am angry, because it seems like odds are against me. I feel worse for some of my co-workers who have kids and have a mortgage to pay. I feel for the guys who are in their 40s and older who are going to have a much tougher road ahead looking for a job than I will. I feel like Im on the Titanic and it just hit an iceberg and the ship is starting to sink rapidly and there's only so many boats to get onto and escape.

    So once again I thank you all for your support and if you're interested Ill keep updating this from time to time.
     
  22. FinSane

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    No, please, rant on. This is a consequence from us converting from a manufacturing-based economy to service sector economy. Problem is in a service sector dominated economy, is that most of the jobs are dead end, low wage, part time only. In order to make ends meet people are working several jobs. The economy is being run by a cabal. Its becoming increasing clear that the middle is being hallowed out, and that's suicidal to me. The middle class is the class that supports both the very poor and the very rich. The middle class is divided by the upper classes who used to have nice pay and benefits and all the job security in the world, and by theworking class that consists of blue collar jobs that once paid living wages and decent benefits, mostly thanks to the collective efforts of unions and groups who fought for many basic job benefits that most take granted today. Some people really think paid overtime, weekends, paid holidays, 2 weeks vacation, ending child labor, social security, health insurance provided by employer, safety rules and regulations, anti-discrimination policies ect. have always been part of the fabric of the workplace. This is simply not true. I wonder if those running the country really want us to slip back to the days before the New Deal, back when the Industrial Revolution was its peak, when workers were wage slaves and have no voice in the workplace. The fact is, is that there is a war on the lower classes. When the poor and middle classes speak out about their grievances, the rich cry "class warfare". When the rich openly screw the lower classes, its called "business as usual". Even Warren Buffett agrees:
     
  23. Ohiophinphan

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    Go ahead Finsane and rant on. You have some sympathetic ears around here.

    While you are likely right, is there any chance you are the one kept because you are new and thus probably lower salaried than the older veterans?
     
  24. FinSane

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    I don't think so. For one most of the salespeople are on commission, I'd figured they will cut the salaried people first, which includes the lower level employees like merchandisers and territory assistants. I also had a tough time with my previous Supervisor, who was laid off last month in the first round of cuts(which after they said we'd all be safe, ha so much for that), which I think may hinder my chances of being retained further. Im 85% sure at this point I'll be one of the first ones to go.
     
  25. padre31

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    Sorry to be soo cynical, but that is par for the course, no information, "other' employees laid off, that creates false expectations that "you" will avoid their fate.

    Watch your pennies, use your time (September isn't it?) to gather contact information for when the ship goes underneath the waves networking purposes, and use this time to organize one's affairs in the manner that will be most advantageous to ones own situation.

    For a start, find out the facts of how your unemployment compensation will work as well as whether or not there are credits available for attending College once one has been laid off, and mainly look at this as an opportunity.

    TBH, I'm sad to hear Publix has declined so severly, they used to be a high calibur company, now they are no different from a five and dime.
     
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  26. Killerphins

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    So many times the grim reaper has been in the conference room,cutting people who are friends and co-workers
    I am in the corporate world. engineering
    trained outsourced replacements, been furloughed to death
    paranoia sets in and it creates a bad environment for all
    all i can say is stay positive
     
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  27. FinSane

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    Yeah, and the more I think about the more I'm sure the company that bought us was aware Publix was intending to do this. From what I've heard from one of my store's backroom receivers that works for Publix, they have been planning on phasing out vendors for at least 4-5 years, beginning with this new automated replenishment system they've implemented. We were just recently bought out by another grocery distributor, Kehe Foods, which just so happens to specialize in direct distributing, that is, product is shipped directly to the supermarket's warehouse for shipment, and is picked up by the store's trucks. I heard they do that for Target. So when we were bought at the beginning of this year, the only correspondence we've had with them is one conference call stating the company's mission statement and a few basic outlines, that is it. Usually, everytime our company was bought out, as in the past, we usually gain benefits and new tools to do the job. But that was when the economy was healthy. This time around, we haven't heard much of anything, and our supervisors have had several meetings with the new company reps and we haven't had one. I had a feeling something was up but this blew my mind. So Im waiting to see what our severance package details will be. Since this is a massive layoff and Im relatively new, I can't imagine Ill be able to negotiate anything, so I guess Ill see. Hopefully itll be a generous offer. They did mention they will provide job training and assistance for us, but I don't see many opportunities, hopefully Im wrong.

    Publix was once was great company to work for. I have many relatives who have worked and still do work for them. I didn't even badmouth them as a company when I worked for them, even though I had some bad experiences in my particular store I worked in(lots of typical workplace politics), when I got this job and saw the other side of things, I realized alot of issues I had when I worked for them were not just occurring within my store, in fact, it seemed all the stores were the same, everyone except upper management and teenagers that are just collecting paychecks are indeed miserable, but what exactly can you do about it? Now alot of upper management and long term employees are happy, their stock is sky high and many of them will retire nicely, but they also got in while the getting was good. The company changed drastically the past 5 years, going the same way as other large corporations all in the name of "competition", which we all know is code for the upward mobility of the corporate heads at the expense of the rest of their employees. Besides the negative I've outlines, they've also capped raises for part-time, full-time and lower management, curbed bonuses(which will be gone eventually), and will phase out assistant mangers. This is why I really do not want to go back. I already experienced the culture of working for Publix: unbelievably high expectations for little pay/hours while dangling carrots at you like full-time or hours to qualify for benefits. And what if their stock goes all Enron? It'll be worthless. Lots to think about on that one. They're still on my list, but on the bottom that's for sure. Publix was once a very good company to work for, when they had a different corporate structure and they weren't so large. Now they got stores on every corner and they have strayed away from that "employee owned" mindset that made them so great. They are losing instore customers(employees), since they do not give discounts. Theyre already taking a hit from outside customers. Don't get me wrong, I'd shop there before I'd shop at a Winn Dixie or Wal-Mart, and I've worked in those stores while working for this company and I can tell you they really are as disgusting as they look and feel(no offense to anyone who shops there, I dont blame you for trying to save a buck). I dont know though, I dont think I can stomach shopping there now seeing their stock clerks doing what I used to for 3x as much pay. *sigh*
     
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  28. padre31

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    Well, what I have found is that using time to lament a once great situation is counterproductive, especially in the grocery business, that industry just breeds fear, paranoia, and poverty, here today, gone tomorrow sort of thinking.

    As an aside as a stocker, I came the closest I have ever come to braining my alledeged "manager" with a can of Juicy Juice, we used to stock at night and then and there I decided that if I had to imbibe to sleep during the day, that was not the job for me.

    Now with so much time between now and layoff day, line stuff up, everything from reference recommendations to networking with both other people who will be pink slipped to those rather unlikely to be pink slipped.
     
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  29. Ohiophinphan

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    My whole family, both parents and maternal Grandfather, worked for the old grocery chain, the "A & P". What you are experiancing with Publix happened to them in the fifties and sixties. Then the small grocery stores in each town were changing to include meat and produce and the A & P didn't know how to compete with "Super"markets. Now supermarkets chains are struggling to deal with big box stores.
     
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  30. AbideN703

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    I went through this at the end of July '09. I didn't find work until October. It was tough and not something I want to go through again. Best of luck to you friend, hopefully the field you're in isn't as difficult to find another job as others might be.
     
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  31. FinSane

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    My co-workers are distributing this email. I did not write this up but I made a facebook group and Im going to try to share it wherever I can.
    http://www.facebook.com/finsane?v=w...213324#!/group.php?gid=107110756002273&ref=mf
     
  32. Fin Fan In Cali

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    Bro if I may. Step out of the box a bit. Do you like doing sales? If so don't limit yourself to the grocery business. Get your resume done in the aspect of sales, and by that I mean selling any kind of product. This will open up more lines of product that you can sell. I know the world feels like you it is caving in, but now is the time you need to ask what do you like doing, and what do you want to do for a career? Get your resume done up. That company I gave you can take up to a week or so, because you do a lot of back and forth communication and phone calls to get it right. It will be well worth your time and efforts. Brother do not wait for the announcement to come, be pro-active and do what is best for your future, and get prepared, and start seeking out new employers. The sooner the better for you. You need to channel the frustration into success.:wink2:

    I wish you the very best.

    John
     
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  33. Fin Fan In Cali

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    On your severance, something is better then nothing. When I got laid off in July of 2008, I got 3 months pay for 9 years. A lot of people say I got screwed and should of gotten a month for every year. I was just grateful for what I got.:yes:
     
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  34. Bpk

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    The first thing I'd say is, you're in a unique position because you WORKED for Publix AND this company.

    If I were you I'd call the company that did the takeover (Publix?) and find out who (manager) is in charge of the TRANSITION team for this acquisition. BE PERSISTENT. GET THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING THIS TRANSITION WORK.

    Once you get them, if you CAN go in person, or else by phone call, say you have worked for BOTH and undertsnd both EXTREMELY well and would like to be part of the transition team in ANY capacity possible. ANY. Tell them you know your understanding of both companies, systems, culturtes, clients and so on will make his/her job MUCH easier and raise the chances of this being a successful transition.

    That, to me, is your unique vlaue in this situation. But you HAVE to get in front of (or on the phone with) the right person. Whoever's job would be on the line if this transition failed. You are an valuable information resource for them.
     
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  35. Disnardo

    Disnardo Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Sorry to hear about your impending issue FS...

    I do like the ability fo you and your friends in producing that e-mails and sending them out. It will probably not stop their process, but it might cause them to scale back somewhat, at best...

    Like others here have stated, get your Resume up to date, send them out, make some cold calls and get ready for a new part of your life, as scary as it sound...

    It might be difficult at first, but good people always manage to help...
     
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  36. Fin Fan In Cali

    Fin Fan In Cali Dolphin fan since 1970 Luxury Box

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    As Brother Nardo said it may feel like a nut kick now, but you got to get your head focused on the future, not the past or present pain. Trust me when I say this, this pain will be a blessing in disguise as better things are ahead. :yes:This is the first time I have really loved to go to work in a long time. It took two other jobs after my layoff to get here but all the long hours, effort, and sweat was well worth it. :up:
     
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  37. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    I got laid off along with many employees from Verizon about 3 weeks ago...no unemployment and no job yet...

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  38. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Just receieved a call today that I got the job I recently applied for. It's a Retail Sales Merchandiser position at a brokering company. I basically do the same duties as I did for my previous job, except order and stock product. Its a fulltime position with benefits and I start the 21st of September. My last day with my former employer is the 24th. So it worked out for me in the end, hopefully I like what Im doing(for a bit less money however) and Ill stick with it for a while. I'm confident Ill do a good job since I'm familiar with the type of job, same industry, I'm just going from a distributor to a broker. I'm just hoping I have job security. But the important thing is I have a new job and I won't have a gap in employment and I feel like a giant weight has been lifted off my shoulders.

    For everyone who gave me support in this thread I thank you. For all those looking for employment I hope you are lucky like me and find something to make ends meet in these tough times. Good luck.
     
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  39. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Congrats bro! Now you can REALLY enjoy the season opener!!
     
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  40. my 2 cents

    my 2 cents Well-Known Member

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    Congratulations!
     
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