JUST answered a caller. The question was what Dom Capers was doing. Brandt repsonds by saying, "he is a very good coach and a great defense coordinator, [Is what it amounts too:001_rolleyes:], if you remember, 2 years ago they had a great defense and they had a very (stressing very) good defense this year. The defense wasnt the reason they lost all those games, it was offense".
I just dont know which dolphins defense Mr. Brandt was watching but, wow!
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Another I like everyone comment from Gil.. I like him but Dom Capers was a good defensive coordinator in the past. The Defense had players (not AAA) but we have been worse in past years and got better performance from them..
Whatever went wrong it's over... Im happy that the broom cleaned house no one gets a free ride anymore... I like Gil, but not this comment... -
Wasn't the Phins' run defense giving up like 160 on the ground all year or was it just for a few games?
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I seriously question the football knowledge of anyone who thinks that the 2007 Dolphins possessed a good defense.
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our d-line was awful
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What is terribly sad is that this guy is on Sirius getting paid ( nothing crazy but he ain't starving either ) to put out dribble.
Wait I take that back, dribble doesn't deserve to be associated with what Brandt said. -
He was be related to Capers some how, absolutely no way someone could watch 15 minutes of a Miami game and convince me that defense wasn't the problem. They just got shredded all year, especially on 3rd down. With that comment Gil lost all credibility and should be shut down for speaking jibberish
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153.8...good for last in the NFL
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Sieve is the word....
Good lord did someone who is receiving a salary to comment on professional football really say our defense was good last year? Seriously that is just assanine. -
would you call lining up Joey porter as a DE bad drafting...:confused2:
The coaching was horrible...Yeah, we had alot of injuries, but Buffalo had more injuries than we did and their defense played much better than ours and they finished 7-9 -
so our d-line was great and our drafting has been good?
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I didnt say that and your blaming the whole thing on drafting. I know our drafting has sucked, but to blame it all on that and none on coaching would make the sky where your from purple, maye even pink.
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true, but forwhatever the reason, dont expect him to put up his normal numbers when he is playing out of position for half the game is all im sayin
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Yes, i did know that
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Much like Dom, the game has passed Gil by...
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The Dolphins D was bad this year. I think it was more of the interior of the line than anything. Channing Crowder for as many plays as he makes he's not there as a run stopper as he gets washed out of the play at times.
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I agree. stopping the run starts up front adn we were last in the league in that category
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This thread is a good example of "Don't believe everything you read."
I read this post before going to work last night. I found it interesting because I knew Gil Brandt wasn't as ill informed as this post made him out to be. Do not misunderstand as I have found that most of the radio hosts have not watched much Dolphins football this year. Some of them have announced a Dolphins game and some have viewed at least two games that I know of from all my listening. THEY ALL KNOW LEAGUE STATISTICS THOUGH.
I took a break from my normal 6-7 hours of Sirius NFL radio last night. They replay three radio shows every night. I only listened to about 3 hours of it last night. When I come across the Gil Brandt episode I recognized this call immediately. I listened intently for Brandt's response.
This much you got right.
The latter portion of the response was ALL wrong.
What he actually said was........
Brandt did not say.....
He said,
Now let us put it all together for some perspective::
"He is a very good coach and a great defense coordinator. If you remember 2 years ago they had a great defense and their defense was not that (stressing "that") bad this year. Their defense was not the reason they lost so much. It was their lack of production on offense that killed them."
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Lol..OK..so you said the same thing I posted? Oh, my bad that i didnt remember word for word what he said but the point is still the same. He said our D was good and we lost because of our offense which is completely wrong.
FYI-I didnt say i believed what he said.
Obviously, if youre a miami fan you know his quote was completely wrong.
And also, under normal circumstances I think Brandt is one of the best in the business.. But yesterday he was one of the worstLast edited: Jan 11, 2008 -
Ill pass, like i said, the point is the same. he said we didnt lose because of our defense, we have a good defense, but lost because of offense. So if we both get the point, there really is no more need to discuss citations any further just for the sake of argument. :up:
FYI2 - My communication skills are as good as they come. Ask my college professors and debate teams -
Zod vs. Optimus Prime. this is going to get good.
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:lol: Optimus prime defeated megatron, who can fly too and is a big *** gun
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Obviously, I am a Miami fan. And obviously I don't know his quote was wrong.
Miami's defense was not THAT bad. That statement is correct. Of course the defense was not up to top ten standards but this is the reality for most teams in the NFL. This team was not being blown out by 30 points. The defense was getting stops and the offense would put them back on the field. In reality, the defense was average. It was nothing special. It was nothing horrid (in contrast to league play).
So when Gil Brandt says that the defense was not THAT bad in 2007 you have to understand that he is not looking from a Miami fans perspective. He is making a general observation from a competitive standpoint.
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I must say.... I think Zod said pretty much the same thing you said. Maybe a few ands and buts are different, but all in all the same.
PS. Zod flies too...... and shoots lasers from his eyes. ohhhhhhh. -
I dont know how you can say our defense wasnt bad or was average and wasnt the reason we lost so much. Yeah, our offense wasnt good either but we were giving up 27 ppg. Hardly even close to average and good for 30th in the league and Im sure I dont even have to mention our running game and the most telling and important stat, 3rd down conversion; Our defense were letting teams convert 3rd downs 47% of the time and that is also good for last in the league. Look the first half of the season, our offense was pretty good (we got to 9th in the league by our bye week). We scored points, but then our defense would come on the field, and couldnt stop anyone. No, maybe the ream wasnt getting blown out, but in the end we lost our games by an average of 11ppg. when you lose games by 2 scores, there are ALOT of problems. In reality, and in contrast to the league, our defense was horrible
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Thats what i said in my first reply to him...The citation maybe werent dead on, but the point of what Brandt said is the exact same so I dont know what the heck the argument is about... Ha, oh yeah, I guess shooting lasers from your eyes is bada**, but he cant turn into a big rig and run dudes over. Superman killed Zod, and Optimus Prime is still alive :lol:
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So unless the Phins were giving up 110 yds a game passing, the defense indeed wasn't good.
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I have to add this just for the sake of being genuine. I could not find fault in Dom Capers scheme this year. I could not fault him because I think I would have taken the same conservative approach.
This defense was porous up front out of the gate. It was porous as compared to previous years as a result of the lack of investment in the defensive line. This was documented through the roster changes prior to camp.
I think the last "starting" free and strong safety count was up to six different players.
Cornerback injuries......
Linebacker injuries......
In other words, it was easy to make it through the first level of the defense due to the original roster movement in the offseason. When the runner reaches the second level, a perennial pro bowler was missing at linebacker after game five. The linebacker count went up to at least three starters out for at least one game this year. Then the runner reaches the third level of the defense where he would find the third person chosen for the position. As a matter of fact, he wasn't even chosen. He was picked up off the street midseason.
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you got me 13! Remember the look on Zod's face when Superman crushed his hand? Priceless.:lol:
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Ive also beat this to death too.. I agree with your consensus on the injury issue, but I still think Capers is not a good coach. We basically still had the same core of players on defense this year that we had last year minus carter, but we added porter. A drop off from 4th overall to 23rd overall regardless of injuries is too big a gap for me to excuse, even taking injuries into effect. Look at buffalo, they had the most defensive players on IR in the league and they still allowed 5 ppg less than we did.
Capers made plenty of questionable calls during the season the main one playing Porter at DE for 4 or 5 or how ever many games it was, and in essence putting him a place to fail. Also, if he was a good talent evaluator Allen would have been on the field long before the London game where he came in and just made plays.
Now you have to ask yourself how much of the defense was actually a function of Saban, or Capers, nothing this year told me it was capers -
hah, and for someone who doesnt knwo what superman is it looks like Zod is letting superman do something to him that he shouldnt be doing (from the pic)... If superman tried to punch Optimus Prime, he would break his hand on that cybertron metalics. :lol:Last edited: Jan 11, 2008
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I do not get into the statistical measurements as they do not mean much at all. The Dolphins once had a top five defense and the leading rusher in the league. You would think those two statistics alone would get you in the playoffs right?
There is one fact that you should know about football. It's true in all of football from Pee Wee to the NFL. "Your best defense is a good offense." -
I found you a new avi.
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Dont give me that...How many coaches in the NFL believe in the good defense, and a manageable mistake free offensive philosophy... It got Chigaco to the bowl last year, Baltimore to win one in 2001, Tampa to win one in 2002, Carolina to go in 2004...
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haha, thats great.. I gotta find that thing on ebay
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