These sickos need to be hung in the middle of town and be castrated. I cannot stand to hear of a child being abused in any way, but this is the absolute worst.
yeah....most 9 year olds ask santa claus to have their relative stop abusing them....completley normal, just a phase....its more than likely false
Never said the girl was lying, but I think wanting the guy hung in the middle of town and castrated is a bit over the top for someone who has yet to be tried. PS: Technically it is a phase, since Santa is fictional and you wouldn't see a 15 year old alleged-victim of abuse writing a letter to him.
im guessing shes assuming that this is no lie, because 99% of 9 year olds dont ask santa for something of that nature, so shes skipping (hypothetically) the trial and getting right to it.....why do we need to split hairs? i think you and everyone knew what she meant....
Really? This is your reply to the thread? I missed the part where she addressed this case specifically. Her anger is aimed at child molesters. And I don't see anything wrong with that. You want to defend the guy, go be his attorney.
because thephins.com is all paralegals, and we should discuss this matter as if its on trial.........wow......
Good job by the teacher, and yeah Stitch, he does deserve a trial..... And after he is convicted as he almost certainly will be, then he deserves to be hung in the town square.
yeah it would've sounded odd if she had said.... "he should be tried fairly, with a jury.....and found guilty of the crimes hes accused of....AND THEN HUNG IN THE COURTYARD AND CASTRATED!!!!" i mean we are really splitting hairs here on a message board imho
no offense bro, but what she said doesn't exactly undermine the system. People have a right to be upset about this. Its pretty sad and disturbing.
I am also. As for this case, I can't comprehend how someone gets something like this in their head, much less acts on it!!
Never said he shouldn't have a fair trial. I have a 9 yr. old grandaughter and if she came up with something like this, we would know she couldn't or wouldn't make it up. It's a shame that we have to teach our kids and grandkids that they have to be so leery of people. We had a pedophile in our church. No one thought he could ever do wrong, but he molested his own children and many others. He finally admitted guilt when other kids talked. Do I think he should be castrated? You bet I do. But, no, he'll be out soon. His wife moved to another state to protect her kids. I think the justice system stinks if it lets these jerks out with a slap on the wrist. IMO, all child molesters are monsters and should be dealt with harshly. Don't know this child's parents or circumstances, so I can't speculate on what they should/would do. If it were either of my grandgirls, I would probably act first and pray later.
You know Pete, sometimes your potshot comments are just not funny, and are in bad taste. I understand what you are saying, I just think the timing really sucked. I know this won't make a bit a difference to you, but my respect for you is diminishing quickly.
while i'm sure stiches could have phrased it better, i do see what he's saying. while in this case there's a good chance the man is guilty, he does indeed deserve a trial. i remember that case in the pofo around election time with the girl who carved the b in her face and all, and it all turned out to be a lie. now, that girl was in college and these are 10 year olds, so that's a huge difference. but i wouldn't put it past a 10 year old these days to do something horrible like write something like that about a relative who they were mad at, especially if they watch all these shows like SVU and know what a simple letter like that can do. that said, the way the article was written, it seems like the police already have a bit more proof than just the letter, so the man is probably guilty, and if he is, should be punished (the death penalty thing is a different story here.. i won't go there now). i'm just saying, i know when i was 10 I did some stupid stuff because I didn't know what bad effects it might cause. not that i ever wrote a letter to santa claiming false abuse or anything, but i do see how it could be done
What debby said in no way undermines the system. People have a right to get upset, and as long as it doesn't leak into the justice system, there really is no need to go around correcting people and their emotional reactions. If she or someone else somehow wanted to circumvent the justice system then yes the argument would have merit. Otherwise it does not.
i didn't say debby shouldn't be allowed to voice her opinion. i was just trying to defend stitches who (unfortunately for him did it in a bad way) tried to make a statement defending the man who he believed people would jump all over. (and no, because i was defending stiches doesn't mean i was attacking debby, because i don't believe he was directly attacking debby either). i just felt stitches didn't deserve to be attacked for taking the oppposite side of the general opinion in the thread. edit: http://articles.latimes.com/2004/feb/23/local/me-girls23 and example of what i was talking about before. sadly, it does happen, and i believe that 99.9% of the time these girls are/would be telling the truth. it just stinks that we do have to be skeptical about everything to a point these days.
He's not being attacked just for playing devils advocate really, he is being attacked for taking a statement and trying to make an argument out of it of which had nothing to do with that argument IMO.And do people lie in these cases, yes, but does what debby said have any bearing on this dudes life or otherwise no. So there really is no need/point to trying to correct her.
Thanks guys, you're sweet for taking up for me. I just stated my opinion. I didn't want an argument or any cuts to anyone. I have always felt this way and I'm sure I always will. There was a man in Ohio when I was in high school who took a little 5 year old girl and did some truly horrible things to that child. Well, he was in jail for awhile, then let go. A girl had the audacity to want to bring him to our prom. We went to our principal and told him we'd rather cancel our prom than to have him there. He was told not to come, the prom went on, but the bleeding heart girl felt we were all horrible in not giving him a second chance. Did he go out and do it again? Yes!! He didn't spend much time in jail that time either. Do I believe in second chances? Depends on the crime. I do not believe these two little girls sat and planned to get this man in trouble. It's been on tv all day and they have him shackled etc., so there must be some merit to what the girls said.
I wasn't trying to be funny. Bad taste? Maybe, I thought wishing someone to be castrated and hung was in bad taste too is all, especially when very few facts were actually presented in the article.
I've got two young nieces and a young granddaughter and if any of them alleged anything of that nature to me the guy involved would never make it to trial.
As long as there is hard evidence as opposed to a circumstantial case then yes, absolutely. Thing about sexual predators is that the reform rate is abismally low. Once someone goes into that they almost never come out. If it gets to the point that they rape a young girl, are over 18, and can be convicted of it on more then just circumstantial evidence I say give them time to make their peace with life and send them on. Or at the very least give them life. There is just no point in letting them back out where chances are they will become repeat offenders.
I was originally speaking of predators, in general, never mentioned this guy in my original post. I said "these sickos". No punishment is in bad taste to me for a person who hurts an innocent child. As I said before, if it were my grandgirls, I would act and ask questions later. If we don't protect our kids who will?
I agree. Sexual predators have some of the lowest reform rates out there. Very few of them can break out of it and return to normalcy. Because of this, I just dont see how we can keep letting these people out of prison with the regularity they seem to "enjoy." Its disgusting. They are abusing and taking total advantage of people who have very little protection or ability to come out and let someone know whats going on. This kind of crime is about as low on the totem pole as you can get. Sometimes, Im just not sure at all if people should get, or deserve, another chance. Its one thing when you spill your milk as a kid, and mom says its ok heres another cup try and be more careful. Its another when you commit unspeakable acts of depravity on defenseless children in a "demographic" that is repeatedly shown to never really let go of the desire to continue.
I wonder what percentage of them 'reform'. And if that number is so low I wonder if the laws and sentences regarding these issues should be made harsher. I would rather have a small percentage of 'reformed' sexual predators behind bars (or castrated and hung, or whatever) than any percentage of children getting preyed upon by some pervert.
Well, I'm very sensitive about this subject. My first wife was extremely mentally and sexually abused by a close "family friend". You can try to be flippant about it but until you see the damage that it causes you should just keep you mouth shut. Until you experience having someone that you love wake up screaming in the middle of the night thinking that she is a little girl again and that those things were happening to her. Until you see them freak out at some little sight, or sound, or smell that triggers a memory you shouldn't say anything funny about this subject. And of course most of these type of people either get away with it or get very little punishment for the pain that they cause others. I was with her for five years until it finally tore us apart. There is nothing too nasty to do to these kind of people. By all means, make sure they are guilty first but then MAKE THE PUNISHMENT FIT THE CRIME AND THE DESTROYED LIVES!!!!!!!!! Sorry, rant over.
