Good news..''Put the toothpaste back in the tube''

That's great news.

Great to hear, Deej. I look forward to the day this all finally comes to fruition. Good riddance, Marlins. lol.

Mentioning the seats being moved in for the Canes makes sense b/c currently they're like a little kid's dinner plate that has his veggies scattered to give the impression it's empty. This way UM can clump all the vegetables together and utilize a little camera magic to make it seem like the plate's full again. :shifty:

:tongue2: to all you Canes fans.

.....aaaaaaaaaaaaand they're not raising ticket prices this year and might even lower some.

Honestly, it just sounds like he's rehashing the blueprint they had for the stadium a few years ago.

They'll add rows of seats to the lower bowl and extend it out. The seats will be all aqua instead of orange. The canopy will be put over the seating areas to help prevent another rainy super bowl for the patrons. Seats will be removed from the 4 corners of the upper deck of the stadium, and scoreboards placed there in the same manner as in Metlife Stadium. This would be done to accommodate the canopy.

That they have a plan is all well and good, but they've had it for a few years now. They still need the financing, which is the difficult part. Until they get that, it's just nothing but a plan.

The interesting thing is that the Chargers' stadium's lower bowl seats seem to be just as far from the field. Check this out:

I wonder if their fans feel similarly about how the structure of the stadium may interfere with home-field advantage.

BTW, if you look at the corners of the lower bowl on the right-hand side of the pic, I think you see the kind of "add-on" construction we're talking about here. Wonder why they didn't do that along the sidelines, as well.

The canopy is the best item to make the stadium livable. If you have ever sat in the visitors' side upper deck for a one o'clock start, you know what I mean. To say the sun is brutal is an understatement; somewhat like saying Benedict Arnold was a bit disloyal.

Every halftime there's an exodus from the sun's anvil to the empty seats on the home side, which have shade. Everyone on the home side is then disturbed when folks come back to their seemingly empty seats that the migrators have now occupied, and a game of musical chairs ensues.

If the ancient Romans had the technology to put an awning over the Colosseum, certainly we have the ability to put a canopy over the stadium. Just a matter of money.

Here's an idea. How about paying for it by yourselves. An NFL franchise is the least risky investment there is besides gold or silver. Relying on socialism when it's convenient really chaps my hide. Goldman Sachs pay for their buildings, don't they?

Good for Broward County..."They turned their backs on us", pffft! STFU Dee...

They should put the seats in the endzone /end djphinphan

Their plan is to add seats to make them a little closer. The stadium does not need more seats though. What it needs is to bring the entire lower bowl closer with a steeper incline. That would mean a few thousand LESS seats.

What they're doing is thinking they will make more money down the road.

"cdz12250 wrote:

The canopy is the best item to make the stadium livable. If you have ever sat in the visitors' side upper deck for a one o'clock start, you know what I mean. To say the sun is brutal is an understatement; somewhat like saying Benedict Arnold was a bit disloyal.

Every halftime there's an exodus from the sun's anvil to the empty seats on the home side, which have shade. Everyone on the home side is then disturbed when folks come back to their seemingly empty seats that the migrators have now occupied, and a game of musical chairs ensues.

If the ancient Romans had the technology to put an awning over the Colosseum, certainly we have the ability to put a canopy over the stadium. Just a matter of money.

and this is why they tried more 4 oclock start times..The fans were not handling the 1 oclock times, leaving an empty stadium because of people coppin out.

"unluckyluciano wrote:

They should put the seats in the endzone /end djphinphan

right over my head?

"PhinGeneral wrote:

Honestly, it just sounds like he's rehashing the blueprint they had for the stadium a few years ago.

They'll add rows of seats to the lower bowl and extend it out. The seats will be all aqua instead of orange. The canopy will be put over the seating areas to help prevent another rainy super bowl for the patrons. Seats will be removed from the 4 corners of the upper deck of the stadium, and scoreboards placed there in the same manner as in Metlife Stadium. This would be done to accommodate the canopy.

That they have a plan is all well and good, but they've had it for a few years now. They still need the financing, which is the difficult part. Until they get that, it's just nothing but a plan.

True, and let me tell ya, those blueprints looked beautiful, but they couldn't do anything structurally til the Marlins left.

Ur right though, we knew the marlins were out this year., we should of already started the process..

Whats the deal Mike Dee, You gonna be all talk in this case???

"Pandarilla wrote:

Here's an idea. How about paying for it by yourselves. An NFL franchise is the least risky investment there is besides gold or silver. Relying on socialism when it's convenient really chaps my hide. Goldman Sachs pay for their buildings, don't they?

Good for Broward County..."They turned their backs on us", pffft! STFU Dee...

This is not my area Rilla, but I understand what your saying, however, if the improvements means superbowls to our area then its just a loan with serious interest..The counties will make that money back..

Shoot If I was Ross, I would privately fund my own stadium, build it correctly, and reap the benefits.

"Pandarilla wrote:

Here's an idea. How about paying for it by yourselves. An NFL franchise is the least risky investment there is besides gold or silver. Relying on socialism when it's convenient really chaps my hide. Goldman Sachs pay for their buildings, don't they?

Good for Broward County..."They turned their backs on us", pffft! STFU Dee...

They should absolutely be paying for it themselves but you clearly don't understand what "socialism" means from even a high school social science program standpoint.

"Pandarilla wrote:

Here's an idea. How about paying for it by yourselves. An NFL franchise is the least risky investment there is besides gold or silver. Relying on socialism when it's convenient really chaps my hide. Goldman Sachs pay for their buildings, don't they?

Good for Broward County..."They turned their backs on us", pffft! STFU Dee...

Not necessarily. For big companies, they tend to get huge tax breaks for real estate to attract them or retain them in the city. For example, my company is building a big couple of buildings in South Boston (a stupid as hell location to build a pharma company) but the city of Boston is practically giving it to them with no taxes.

But I do agree that the franchise should be footing most of the bill. or the city could at least provide some incentive for them to do so.

well if you change the name to Don Shula Stadium and dedicate it our favorite coach then I'M siked . I think the taxpayers should never pay for a stadium for any sport.

if only Miami would bring in some more big name players to help sell tickets and merchandize then the team can keep making improvements.

"djphinfan wrote:

True, and let me tell ya, those blueprints looked beautiful, but they couldn't do anything structurally til the Marlins left.

Ur right though, we knew the marlins were out this year., we should of already started the process..

Whats the deal Mike Dee, You gonna be all talk in this case???

I think they'd do it in a NY minute if they had the financing. They may be trying to use the loss of Super Bowl revenue to get Broward and Miami-Dade to agree to some type of Hotel tax increase.

State of the art. 100% retractable.

"shouright wrote:

The interesting thing is that the Chargers' stadium's lower bowl seats seem to be just as far from the field. Check this out:

I wonder if their fans feel similarly about how the structure of the stadium may interfere with home-field advantage.

BTW, if you look at the corners of the lower bowl on the right-hand side of the pic, I think you see the kind of "add-on" construction we're talking about here. Wonder why they didn't do that along the sidelines, as well.

What's up, Shou. Long time no see, buddy. :tongue2:

The playing dimension of a football field is 57,600 square feet.

Sun Life Stadium: 115,000 sq ft of field space (to accommodate its large baseball dimensions). It's 6,000 sq ft larger than the San Diego's.

For comparison,
Lambeau Field (Packers): 85,000
Soldier Field (Bears): 85,000
Lincoln Financial Field (Eagles): 87,000
Invesco Field (Broncos): 89,000
Lucas Oil Stadium (Colts): 92,000
Reliant Stadium (Texans): 97,000
Superdome (Saints): 90,000
Gilette Stadium (Pats): 94,000
Heinz Field (Steelers): 96,000

**Not only is Sun Life twice as large as a normal football field, but it represents 20,000-30,000 sq ft of "further distance" from the field than the above stadiums.

IMO it's not just about the distance but also about the fan base that shows up.

As DJ has pointed out, the extreme distance from the field does no favors for the Dolphins b/c:
1. the fan base is consistently late to games/filling the stadium.
2. we procrastinate at filling seats after half time.
3. unless it's a big game (typically vs NE or NY), our fan participation, spirit, and noise level is spotty.

IMO it's imperative to move the stands closer to the field to get fans feeling more involved in the action.

"ToddsPhins wrote:

What's up, Shou. Long time no see, buddy. :tongue2:

The playing dimension of a football field is 57,600 square feet.

Sun Life Stadium: 115,000 sq ft of field space (to accommodate its large baseball dimensions). It's 6,000 sq ft larger than the San Diego's.

For comparison,
Lambeau Field (Packers): 85,000
Soldier Field (Bears): 85,000
Lincoln Financial Field (Eagles): 87,000
Invesco Field (Broncos): 89,000
Lucas Oil Stadium (Colts): 92,000
Reliant Stadium (Texans): 97,000
Superdome (Saints): 90,000
Gilette Stadium (Pats): 94,000
Heinz Field (Steelers): 96,000

**Not only is Sun Life twice as large as a normal football field, but it represents 20,000-30,000 sq ft of "further distance" from the field than the above stadiums.

IMO it's not just about the distance but also about the fan base that shows up.

As DJ has pointed out, the extreme distance from the field does no favors for the Dolphins b/c:
1. the fan base is consistently late to games/filling the stadium.
2. we procrastinate at filling seats after half time.
3. unless it's a big game (typically vs NE or NY), our fan participation, spirit, and noise level is spotty.

IMO it's imperative to move the stands closer to the field to get fans feeling more involved in the action.

seems logical to me..The further away from the action, the more passive you become, were furthest away from everyone....Not good for the home team...I believe it has an impact on football players, a really negative one that turns into flat performances and underachieving...and unemotional, passionless play.

You ever see a game at raven stadium?

I have mockups for a new Dolphins stadium. Given an opportunity, I'll try to render it out for y'all at some point :P

thank god the marlins are out

But where is the sense of urgency??, we have known the Marlins to be out for a long time, why isn't the process further along??

The whole seat thing will probably be swept under the rug, deemed to expensive or something.

Why have we started the process of borrowing the money, at least close to the voting process if we want to get the 2015 superbowl.??

"djphinfan wrote:

But where is the sense of urgency??, we have known the Marlins to be out for a long time, why isn't the process further along??

The whole seat thing will probably be swept under the rug, deemed to expensive or something.

Why have we started the process of borrowing the money, at least close to the voting process if we want to get the 2015 superbowl.??

Adding seats was supposed to begin right after the season ended. What the plan was will not help though. Adding seats mean absolutely nothing if the team does not improve. Nothing will....