[Grier Retained for 2025, this thread has been locked] Hell yea!Bye Grier!

I would agree, except for that guy in Kansas City…..

 

I don't know. You see guys like Marino, Brady, They have lots of wins under their belts with several different players. Do the Chiefs win without Mahomes? I doubt it. Probably not a HOF QB without a HOF coach too?

 

I would still take Burrow. Mahomes would be second.

 

Yes, there are generally multiple reasons why HoF QBs have wins. Liked at it's core, the QB needs another player to do his job, so that the QB can do his. The receiver has to run the route and catch the pass.

So in that regard, I don't believe that you can really claim that wins are a QB stat. I would agree, however, that QBs before the 2000s were probably more responsible for things on the field, I think that they may have impacted the games more than they do today.

 

Not only are there HoF QB’s with losing records, but there are HoF QB’s with 0 wins in the playoffs.

 

I mean, Namath and Jurgenson. Old school, when I already said, I think it was different for older era QBs than today.

 

Then we will agree to disagree on that point.

 

There MAY be an argument to take Burrow over Mahomes due to their ages, but a 1 year in age difference should not move the needle for any rational person. It’s true that Mahomes, over the last 2 seasons, hasn’t played up to his previous seasons, but I doubt we’d find anyone that thinks Mahomes has lost a step. He’s 29. Burrow is 28.

It’s of course subjective, but taking Burrow over Mahomes is a ridiculous take. In fact, I can’t think of something more ridiculous ever posted here. I’m sure there’s something, but I’m not remembering anything.

 

You would take Mahomes even though the Bengals have beaten his Chiefs twice and his stats were better then Mahones in those games? And even though Burrow today is on a worse team yet has way better stats then Mahomes?

It is interesting though that in head to head matchups against each other with playoff quality teams they both put up impressive numbers.

 

You still have guys like Burrow, Mahomes, Allen that would make almost any team better.

 

Wait, what? What are you saying here? You’re just wrong about nearly everything. Lmaooo

Burrow has a 93 passer rating in the playoffs while Mahomes has a 105. If you just want to compare each first 7 playoff games, Mahomes had a 107 or higher rating in 5 of those games. Again, Burrow has a 93 overall. KC is 3-1 over Cinci in the last 3 years. In those 4 games, Mahomes has 2 games with the higher passer rating and Burrow has 2. Cinci has missed the playoffs in 2 straight years.

But…I thought stats didn’t matter?

Lmao… The amount of absurd goalpost moving and fellating in this post is unbelievable.
Also, please learn the difference between “then” and “than”.

 

Yes to all. Mahomes may not have the numbers this year, yet every time KC needs a big play, he delivers. He hasn’t had an above average WR since they traded Hill away, and he still went 15-1 this year. JaMarr Chase is better than the entire WR room in KC - that’s a big reason why Burrow’s numbers are better than Mahomes’ are.

Put it this way, what qb do you want under center in the fourth quarter, down 5, with less than two minutes remaining? The answer gas to be Patrick Mahomes.

The defense rests, your honor.

 

Well.. clearly Burrow > Tua, but I think we need to give Grier props for NOT choosing Herbert. That guy is a pure choker. That's 2 years he choked in the playoffs. Only thing he has over Tua is availability which means nothing if you choke at the most important time.

Burrow > Tua > Herbert.

lol Herbert threw 4 INTs today including a pick 6.

 

Could Burrow win a Super Bowl with the Chiefs and Andy Reid? I would say yes.

 

I would without question take Burrow; he would have the team in the lead and would not need a 4th quarter comeback. Mahomes is close second.

 

I would go further and say any quarterback with Andy Reid and the Chiefs would have a much better chance of winning a Super Bowl than whomever they are with now.

 

Nah… he just doing “enough” to win games.

 

/checks Grier thread to see if any actual Grier news. Sees same old Tua talk.

This forum is broken.

 

Grier isn’t being fired.

 

Burrow would never be trailing in the fourth quarter of any game if he played for KC?

 

Right, which is part of the problem. I see this thread bumped and think maybe something changed, but it's just Tua talk. It spills into every single thread and the titles offer no value. It's gotten so bad I had to add Finheaven back to my bookmarks.

 

Burrow won 2 of three against them, so it seems he was trailing in one of them.

 

Not seeing any Tua talk. Most is Burrow Mahomes talk

 

No worries, everything must end in a Tua discussion on here.

 

Holy hell you’re just so bad at stats. What are you even talking about? Are you just going to use 2022 and throw out everything else to pretend that Burrow is better than Mahomes?Lmao

Burrow is 1-3 against KC in their last 4.

 

You said he would have the team in the lead in the fourth quarter, and wouldn’t need to stage a comeback. This was a “ Given the same team around the qb, who would you want in the fourth quarter” exercise, not a look back at what has happened between them thus far.

 

I'd take Burrow. I'd take Burrow. I'd take Burrow. Clear now?

 

Holy cow! Mark the date. You got me. I was wrong.
I forgot that Burrow was hurt as much as he was and missed a few games against KC. I was just looking at the games played.
Man, Burrow sure is injury prone.

 

That’s what I said. Just because I added context doesn’t mean you have to get so angry.