Agree with everything except QB. I think Josh McCown beats out both Beck and Henne. But nothing at that position would surprise me.

 

Hopefully we won't have to be as "deep" in the secondary this year as last year.

 

QB: John Beck
RB: Ronnie Brown
FB: Reagen Mauia
TE: Anthony Fasano
LT: Jake Long
LG: Justin Smiley
C: Samson Satele
RG: Shawn Murphy
RT: Vernon Carey
WR: Ted Ginn Jr.
WR: Ernest Wilford

P: Brandon Fields
K: Jay Feeley

DE: Vonnie Holliday
DE: Randy Starks
DT: Jason Fergeson
OLB: Jason Taylor
ILB: Akin Ayodele
ILB: Channing Crowder
OLB: Joey Porter
CB: Will Allen
CB: Andre' Goodman
FS: Jason Allen
SS: Yeremiah Bell

 

I don't see anyway McCown doesn't start this season. Not only is he pretty good, but he's got year's of experience over the other guys

 

QB- McCown
RB: Brown
FB: Hilliard
TE: Fasano
LT: Long
LG: Smiley
C: Satele
RG: Murphy
RT: Carey
WR: Ginn Jr.
WR: Wilford

P: Fields
K: Carpenter

DE: Holliday
DE: Merling
DT: Fergeson
OLB: Taylor
ILB: Ayodele
ILB: Crowder
OLB: Porter
CB: Allen
CB: Daniels
FS: Allen
SS: Bell

KR: Ginn Jr.
PR: Jayson

 

QB: Josh McCown
RB: Ronnie Brown
FB: Reagan Mauia
TE: Anthony Fasano
LT: Jake Long
LG: Ikechuku Ndukwe
C: Samson Satele
RG: Justin Smiley
RT: Vernon Carey
WR: Ted Ginn Jr.
WR: Ernest Wilford

P: Brandon Fields
K: Jay Feely

DE: Vonnie Holliday
DE: Matt Roth
DT: Jason Ferguson
OLB: Jason Taylor
ILB: Akin Ayodele
ILB: Channing Crowder
OLB: Joey Porter
CB: Will Allen
CB: Travis Daniels
FS: Jason Allen
SS: Yeremiah Bell

 

Every one of you has Daniels at CB...I just dont see it..my money would be in Goodman probably with Lehan a very close second.

I take Silverphins lineup other than that.

 

week 1 starting roster
QB Josh McCown
FB Reagan Mauia
RB Ronnie Brown
WR Ted Ginn
WR Ernest Wilford
WR Tab Perry
TE Anthony Fasano
LOT Jake Long
LOG Justin Smiley
C Samson Satele
ROG Julius Wilson
ROT Vernon Carey
DE Vonnie Holliday
NT Jason Ferguson
DE Randy Starks
OLB Phillip Merling (JT traded)
ILB Akin Ayodele
ILB Reggie Torbor
OLB Joey Porter
CB Will Allen
CB Michael Lehan
FS Jason Allen
SS Yeremiah Bell
P Brandon Fields
K Jay Feely

Week 17 Starting Roster (with backups in case of injury)
QB Chad Henne/ Josh McCown
FB Reagan Mauia/ Lex Hilliard
RB Ronnie Brown/ Ricky Williams
WR Ted Ginn/ David Kircus
WR Ernest Wilford/
WR Tab Perry/ Greg Camarillo
TE Anthony Fasano/ Sean Ryan
LOT Jake Long/
LOG Justin Smiley/ Ikechuku Ndukwe
C Samson Satele/ Trey Darilek
ROG Shawn Murphy/ Shawn Murphy
ROT Vernon Carey/ Julius Wilson
DE Kendall Langford/ Rodrique Wright
NT Jason Ferguson/ Paul Soliai
DE Vonnie Holliday/ Randy Starks
OLB Phillip Merling/ Quentin Moses
ILB Reggie Torbor / Akin Ayodele
ILB Channing Crowder / Charlie Anderson
OLB Joey Porter/ Abraham Wright
CB Will Allen / Andre Goodman
CB Michael Lehan / Travis Daniels
FS Jason Allen / Chris Crocker
SS Yeremiah Bell / Renaldo Hill
K Jay Feely
P Brandon Fields

 

I hope Beck is the starter

 

i think i'm closest to what poco is suggesting.... my only idea is that Beck might be given an "opportunity" over McCown as the starter.... and i say this because i think Beck has more talent even though McCown has more experience.

We KNOW what we're going to get with McCown, but still have to give Beck a chance. :up:

 

I was listening to Sirius radio the other day and the two sports broadcasters were talking about McCown
and they both agreed that McCown was a good QB and should be a starter in the NFL in the right system. This was not my opinion because I haven't personally seen him play just thought I would mention what they said. I would love to see Beck come out and play great but I have high hopes for Henne too.

 

Yeah, come to think of it... I'm gonna change that....

Edit: The Daniels thing, that is.

 

i like Henne, and hope he has a future here... but i would like to think he won't really be a factor for competition until 2009...

 

Aqua, I will copy and paste your format if thats ok with you to insert my opinion on the depth this year.

QB
1.Josh McCown
2.John Beck
3. Chad Henne

RB
1. Ronnie Brown
2. Ricky Williams
3. Jalen Parmalee

FB
1. Boomer Grigsby
2. Lex Hilliard

WR
1. Ted Ginn Jr.
2. Ernest Wilford
3. Derek Hagan
4. Greg Camarillo
5. Tab Perry

TE
1. Anthony Fasano
2. Sean Ryan

LT
1. Jake Long
2. Julius Wilson

LG
1. Justin Smiley
2. Ike Ndukewe

C
1. Samson Satele
2. Drew Mormino

RG
1. Shawn Murphy
2. Donald Thomas

RT
1. Vernon Carey
2. Dan Gore

Defense

RE
1. Vonnie Holliday
2. Rod Wright

NT
1. Jason Ferguson
2. Randy Starks (work at DE as well)
3. Paul Soliai

LE
1. Randy Starks
2. Matt Roth

ROLB
1. Phillip Merling
2. Quentin Moses

ILB
1. Channing Crowder
2. Reggie Torbor


ILB
1. Akin Ayodele
2. Charlie Anderson
3. Kelvin Smith

LOLB
1. Joey Porter
2. Abe Wright

CB
1. Will Allen
2. Michael Lehan
3. Andre Goodman
4. Nathan Jones

FS
1. Jason Allen
2. Renaldo Hill

SS
1. Yeremiah Bell
2. Travis Daniels (serve as 5th corner as well)
3. Keith Davis

LS- John Denhey
K- Jay Feely
P- Brandon Fields

I agreed with most of yours.

 

:lol: Sorry bro, I am one of Beck's biggest supporters but I think McCown will be there for the start. :D.

 

QB-beck
RB: Ronnie Brown
FB: grigsby
TE: Anthony Fasano
LT: Jake Long
LG: Justin Smiley
C: Samson Satele
RG: Shawn Murphy
RT: Vernon Carey
WR: Ted Ginn Jr.
WR: Ernest Wilford

P: Brandon Fields
K: Jay Feeley

DE: Phil Merling
DE: Randy Starks
DT: Jason Fergeson
OLB: Jason Taylor
ILB: Akin Ayodele
ILB: Channing Crowder
OLB: Joey Porter
CB: Will Allen
CB: davis
FS: Jason Allen
SS: Yeremiah Bell
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Bro I think the same. I feel that he has all the tools to succeed in the NFL. He showed us in his rookie year that he can become accustomed to any gameplan thrown at him. For instance, we asked him to basically just dont throw the game away when he went out and sure he did mess up a few times but when we played the top defense at that time in Pittsburgh, he played VERY well imo. He went 14 for 23 with no picks that game. I know he has fumbling issues but hopefully we wont have to worry about that after the line is stabilized, which I think we will. The only problem lying is will he be given a fair chance here in Miami? I believe he may not because they want "their" guys.

 

Great post bro. I agree with the analysis. Like I said earlier, I feel like he has everything you need to be a successful QB but getting that chance is the question, especially after the new guys have been running everything in their sight out.

 

I agree:up:

 

He's a veteran. Parcells hates rookie QBs and Beck still hasnt had the game slow down for him.

Plus add in the fact that this may end up being the best offensive line he's ever played behind so there is a chance we will get the best play of his career

 

Personally I'd be happy if one turns out to be an NFL calibre QB. If we were lucky enough that two of the three turned out to be NFL calibre QBs, that wold be an unbelievable "problem" to have. Training Camp just took on a whole new level excitement and anticipation. Like Sparano said, "It's a clean slate, show me from Day 1." I'm not in anyone's camp personally, I just look forward to the best man winning out.

 

Here so we can see the whole roster.

Below is a list of Miami Dolphin players by position.
(Names in Italic were on the Dolphins 07' roster)

If i missed any new UDFA or some of these players have been cut I am sorry.


Offense

QB
John Beck
Josh McCown
Chad Henne


Running Backs
Ronnie Brown
Ricky Williams
Patrick Cobbs
Jalen Parmele

Full Backs
Regan Mauia
Boomer Grigsby
Lex Hilliard
Rolly Lumbala

Wide Receiver
Ted Ginn Jr.
Derek hagen
Greg Camarillo
Ernest Wilford
Tab Perry
David Kirkus
Davone Bess
Jayson Foster (can't see him as an NFL QB)

Tight Ends
Justin Peelle
David Martin
Anthony Fasano
Aaron Halterman
Sean Ryan
Matt Mulligan

Offensive Line
Vernon Carey
Samson Satele
Drew Mormino
Julius Wilson
Ickechuku Ndukwe
Jake Long
Trey Darelick
Justin Smiley
Ickechuku Ndukwe
Donald Thomas
Shuan Murphy
Mike Byrne
Dan Gore
Daren Heerspink


Defense

Line Backers
Joey Porter
Channing Crowder
Abraham Wright
Edmund Miles
Reggie Torbor
Aykin Ayodele
Kelvin Smith
Charlie Anderson
Junior Glymph
Kelly Poppinga

Defensive Ends
Jason Taylor
Matt Roth
Quinten moses
Phillip Merling
Kendall Langford
Lionel Dotson
Derrick Robinson
Rob Ninkovich

Defensive Tackles
Rodrique Wright
Steve Fifita
Vonnie Holliday
Paul Soliai
Jason Ferguson
Randy Starks


Defensive Backs
Will Allen
Travis Daniels
Jason Allen
Courtney Bryan
Yeremiah Bell
Renaldo Hill
Michael Lehan
Andre Goodman
Joey Thomas
Nathan Jones
Keith Davis
Will Billingsley
Chris Crocker
Scorpio Babers

Kickers / Punters
Jay Feeley
Brandon Fields
Dave Rayner
Dan Carpenter

 

To add, he also has a history of being able to manufacture points and move the ball down the field. He's already in tune with the speed of the NFL game and that's the hardest thing for a QB to figure out. If he can just eliminate some of the mistakes that have haunted him with other teams, we could turn out to have a pretty good QB on our hands.

 

Same reason you start Green last year. Same reason McCown started over Jamracus last year. One he's the best going into the season and two you want to establish a new offensive system. You dont do that with rookies or second year players who still dont have the game slowing down for them and are going to be prone to blowing games with ill timed turnovers or missed reads. I guarantee you McCown will be light years ahead of the other two in understanding how to run the offense come week one. Beck or Henne would have to have the training camps of their lives to bench McCown. All things being equal McCown will start. Only if Beck or Henne is lighting it up in preseason do they stand a chance to start and even then I'm not sure

 

Ok, I'll give it a shot at the 53. Top players at each position are starters.

Offense

QB
John Beck
Josh McCown
Chad Henne


Running Backs
Ronnie Brown
Ricky Williams
Jalen Parmele

Full Backs
Reagan Mauia
Lex Hilliard

Wide Receiver
Ted Ginn Jr.
Ernest Wilford
Derek Hagen
Marcell Reece
Tab Perry

Tight Ends
Anthony Fasano
David Martin
Sean Ryan

Offensive Line
Jake Long
Justin Smiley
Samson Satele
Sean Murphy
Vernon Carey
Drew Mormino
Trey Darilek
Donald Thomas


Defense

Line Backers
Joey Porter
Channing Crowder
Reggie Torbor
Jason Taylor
Abraham Wright
Aykin Ayodele
Quinten moses
Charlie Anderson
Kelly Poppinga

Defensive Ends
Phillip Merling
Vonnie Holliday
Kendall Langford
Rodrique Wright
Lionel Dotson

Defensive Tackles
Jason Ferguson
Randy Starks
Paul Soliai

Defensive Backs
Will Allen
Andre Goodman
Jason Allen
Yeremiah Bell
Renaldo Hill
Michael Lehan
Travis Daniels
Nathan Jones
Keith Davis


Kickers / Punters
Brandon Fields
Dan Carpenter

Long Snapper:
Denney

Practice Squad:
Davone Bess
Kory Robinson
Foster
Heerspink
Lane
Mulligan
Byrne

I guess no one really knows at this point, but it is fun to try.

:up:

 

Carpenter beats out Feely?

 

I think they brought the other 2 kickers in so they could trade Feeley, don't you? Why would the other 2 kickers be in camp, given how well Feeley kicked last year?

 

Competition? I dont think they brought them in to trade him, just for competition.

 

I thought he had the highest kicking % in the league last year, what would he need to do to prove himself? On the other hand, if you want to get value for him, this is the best time to get it...

I agree, if there is a competition Feely wins hands down.

 

Well he might have had the highest kicking percentage but that doesn't mean that it isn't an open position. IMO, any time you have a team that wins one game in a sixteen game season, every position is up for grabs (no matter the stats). I think they brought in the competition because if theres a guy like Carpenter for example that proves to Bill and co. that he can do the same as Feely at a base salary, you can let Feely go and get Carpenter.

 

I would think we would at least try to get something for Feely in trade if Carpenter shows us something...

 

My take on bringing in kickers in camp when you have a good one already is that you're scouting for the future in case o0f injury. Obviously if th guy starts hitting 30 for 30 40 yards and out he'll be inconsideration but I think Parcells is just figuring out who he brings in in case of an ijury to Feely

 

That makes a lot of sense.

 

Mine is pretty similar to Aqua4Ever04's...

QB
1. John Beck
2. Josh McCown
3. Chad Henne

RB
1. Ronnie Brown
2. Ricky Williams
3. Jalen Parmalee

FB
1. Boomer Grigsby
2. Lex Hilliard

WR
1. Ted Ginn Jr.
2. Ernest Wilford
3. Derek Hagan
4. Greg Camarillo
5. Tab Perry

TE
1. Anthony Fasano
2. David Martin
3. Sean Ryan

LT
1. Jake Long
2. Julius Wilson

LG
1. Justin Smiley
2. Ike Ndukewe

C
1. Samson Satele
2. Drew Mormino

RG
1. Donald Thomas
2. Shawn Murphy

RT
1. Vernon Carey
2. Dan Gore

Defense

RE
1. Vonnie Holliday
2. Rod Wright

NT
1. Jason Ferguson
2. Randy Starks
3. Paul Soliai

LE
1. Kendall Langford
2. Matt Roth

ROLB
1. Jason Taylor
2. Phillip Merling

ILB
1. Reggie Torbor
2. Channing Crowder

ILB
1. Akin Ayodele
2. Charlie Anderson

LOLB
1. Joey Porter
2. Quentin Moses

CB
1. Will Allen
2. Michael Lehan
3. Andre Goodman
4. Nathan Jones
5. Travis Daniels

FS
1. Jason Allen
2. Renaldo Hill

SS
1. Yeremiah Bell
2. Keith Davis

LS- John Denney
K- Jay Feely
P- Brandon Fields

 

feely is the man

 

Henne is not starting at QB this year. Beck gets a shot before Henne. Also Merling won't start over Holliday...or Langford for that matter. I see Merling and Langford in a rotation with the vets starting.

Daniels won't start over Lehan either in my opinion...and I don't see Bell healthy, but if he is I agree he starts

Torbor beats out Crowder too...I see Crowder getting traded or cut...yeah you heard it here first.