Ravens head coach fires up Dolphins with comments on Cameron Guys harbaugh has just dug his own grave. lol Its on now baby
I read that too.... Apparently John feels that: 25th in the league in total offense 30th in ypp 28th in ppg at 15.6, 1/10th lower than the 15.7 we were last year (i believe) 29th in total points 21st in total penalties 29th in passing ypg (although 7th in rushing ypg) is a very effective offense... Yup, Cams doing agreat job of failing forward fastly in Baltimore and looks like John appreciates and agrees with this vaunted theory as well.. Rich Camarillo seems pretty ticked off too
Well the funny thing is in Baltimore he's an OFFENSIVE CORDINATOR not a HEAD COACH. see the post directly above mine as well.
Can someone make a sign saying: "Cam Camoron=worst head coach ever" "Fail.. foward.. fast, Camoron" I wish i could go to the game, i would be holding it proudly...
Rich Camarillo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I thought we had a 26 year old WR, not a 49 year old punter... Wow, could have fooled me.
John Harbaugh is a pretty stand up guy and coach. I think that comment may have been more with front office issues vs players. More than likely, that comment was taken out of context.
Harbaugh also said Cameron "did a great job last year for what he had to work with." I would say it's the other way around. The players did a good job last year considering the coach they had to work with.
He really proved he knew how to manage a game last year too, when he had Cleo spike the ball on 1st down from (about) the NE (i think) ten with plenty of time left... and then calling a timeout after an incomplete pass
I agree Cam was not head coach material - but he also lost his starting RB, QB and I believe 4 OG's and 6 S's during last season. Lets not kid ourselves and say that last year was completely Cam's fault. It was the perfect storm.
Other players, including Joey Porter, shrugged it off. And after awhile, it became clear that latecomers to the locker room were being warned against saying anything inflammatory. Joey didn't talk??????????
Some of those injuries could've been due to his weak training camp and practices. And we were getting blown out by bad teams well before Trent Green and Ronnie Brown went down with injuries. Not totally his fault, but a head coach get's his team to rally around him and buy into what he's doing and Cam certainly didn't do that. He lost his team around week 3 of last year.
I was hard on Cam Cameron, 1st, he trades Wes Welker to the Patriots and nearly gave them the perfect season. 2ndly, he trades our best wide receiver as in Chris Chambers. 3rdly, he drafts Ted Ginn Jr. 4th - John Beck 5th - trades for Cleo Lemon - with endorsement from the Chargers. I could go on, but in 1 season, Cameron nearly took away 1 of the most proud records that still stands today, "The Perfect Season"..... and also nearly gave us the Un-Perfect season at the same time. In one season he accomplished something that is hard to do in 30 years....of coaching. d-1
in hindsight, if we still had chambers welker and teddy ginn...thats really not a bad receiving corps. then again, henne satele...i dunno.
Joey, who infamously called Cameron a spineless coward (or words to that effect) at a team meeting last year, is guaranteed to go out there with his Defense DETERMINED to strangle Cam's offense. I hope Joey plays the game of his life.
Well done Barry.. nice angle, I'm gunna embrace that one with you ! Damn, "his" defense.. you are the first I can recall to say that.. and it jazzes the crap outa me... make it so Joey!
lol. Yeah, well Joey has played his heart out this year. Most of his biggest plays come at critical points in the game too. He's more of a leader on the field than I expected. I also know he is very ego driven, and hates Cam Cameron. Therefore, he hates the Ravens offense. hopefully he sees Cam Cameron's head on Joe Flacco's body. Go DOLPHINS!!!!
Chambers contract was a killer we all have discussed our frustrations with him, he would make the great sideline catch and drop the easy pass, has he really been that stellar with the Chargers? Right move trading him maybe not for right now down the road, guys annual salary was way out of wack with his production.
True but the history was/is that Cameron basically said this guy was a stud when Lemon came here. For some reason we have some sort of relationship with the Chargers when it comes to trades. In other words, Cameron was responsible for selling him to us. We could have had Brady Quinn, instead we picked up Ginn Jr. who Cameron spoke very highly of. The bottom line is, Marty Shottenheimer was the guy who made the Chargers great and when all his assistants were hired by other team, the Chargers fired him. Thus far, Ginn hasn't really shown much.... d-1
thats hardly bulletin board material. he was just trying to say something nice about cameron. he didnt call out our players or anything like that. look at all the injuries we had. we basically played the second half of the season with our 2nd string. and if you look at what cameron had to work with, most of it was his own fault. they put together that team. we had just as high of a roster turnover last year as this year. After Ronnie got hurt, we were missing our entire offense from the previous season. Chambers, Welker, McMichael, Ronnie, Daunte, Joey Harrington, all gone. We could have won 5 games with Joey at QB. Lemon was absolutely horrible. Cameron has bad judgement. And apparantely so does Harbaugh. But I wouldnt hold his ignorance against him, as I dont think he was trying to insult our team.
Thats not fair. Noone knew Cam would have sucked as bad as he did otherwise why would the people say they wanted him. All i knew was SD was a top 5 offense for the 3 years Cam was OC there, and because of that, AND because of our offensive deficiency, I wanted him. Ill even go on record as thinking, and saying, when we hired Cam, that I thought our average ppg would increase by about 1 TD per game and raise into the low 20's. Much to my dismay, it decreased. I mean seriously, I bet even the people who DIDNT want him here didnt think we would go 1-15 under him... Anyways, I was wrong about him, but I wasnt wrong about wanting his *** canned.
I don't know if anyone WANTED him. I think we all realized that we had very slim pickings to choose from and it would be a toss up no matter who we picked that year. I'd venture to say that those that did want him out of what we had to choose from that year were simply thinking that this is probably the best we'll do with what's available to us rather than Cameron being someone people would have focused on to go out and get with some solid candidates available. Even is some did, what does it matter? Dosen't change anything. If the Phins brass are allowed to make such a mistake then why aren't posters who thought he might be a good HC at the time? There certainly was no mass consensus of who we all thought might do well.
Tomlin was one name tossed around quitea bit. Whisenhunt, Marty and Brian Schottenheimer were names that were also favorites of many as I recall. At one point the rallying call was around entincing Bill Cowher to come immediately out of retirement as well. So anyone saying Cameron was a popular choice by the majority on these boards are wrong IMO.
He was a punter back in the 80's...mostly with the Pats and then for the Cards, I think....played about 15 yrs tho...was a decent punter...
It doesn't matter if we hold it against him. All that matters is, lets hope his former players hold it against him and show it on the field. Bye the way, what happened to Ginn's family? I haven't seen them take one snap or make one play on the field.
agreed, i also wanted mike singletary as my 2nd choice, i think we all accepted the hiring because we figured because we had a decent defense he would be a nice compliment....now we know you dont hire someone who does one thing specificly well in the x's and o's, a coach needs to be respected and have the ability to unify a team and motivate.
