I'll worry about that IF/when it happens. No sense in trying to think about all of that before we've even played a pre-season game! This board!

 

if the Dolphins finish in the top 5 in defense...look for a promotion from within with Ireland keeping his job.

 

Uggh.

Ireland I guess I don't hate, but why promote Nolan? He was terrible in SF and Mike singletary, himself a terrible coach, actually did better than him.

If Ireland is retained he should lead a comprehensive search. If they are both canned then Cowher is Option A

 

If you're asking me to choose, give me Kirk Ferentz.

 

Since Shula, when has that actually worked?

 

yikes

 

Bill Belichick and Andy Reid handle it just fine. You just have to put that power in the hands of the right guy. Would Cowher work? I have no idea, but he's a guy I would definitely be happy to have coaching my team

 

Bill Belichick was a failure for the Browns, a retread if you will.

Who did Andy Reid win a superbowl with?

 

How is Belichick's Brown's failure relevant to what he's done with NE?

And are you honestly saying you don't think Reid is a good coach/personnell guy just because he hasn't won a SB? Sign me up for the Eagles last decade any day.

 

I could only imagine the game management threads we would have if Reid were our coach.

 

Ireland is a great GM. I don't like fist pump as much, but I feel like he still has a decent amount of potential. If fist pump sucks this year, I want Cowher.

Keep Ireland though.

 

No coach since Shula has won a superbowl with two different team. Parcells is the only one to take a team to a second superbowl.

Technically Belichick and Reid were not relevant to my question

 

I should have known better than to override my "Ignore" button.

 

If we're talking about the fact that a Super Bowl winning coach has never won a Super Bowl with a second team, I could see why you'd want to be careful there. Jimmy Johnson for instance didn't have the same appetite for stress with Miami that he did in Dallas. However, keep in mind that we're not exactly talking about a very big sample pool. It seems like one of those things that could be absolutely inconceivable until it happens, and then everyone is like, "Remind again me why we didn't think this could happen?"

I mean, Dick Vermeil went to the playoffs four years in a row, including a Super Bowl appearance, then won one later with the Rams. Did he win that Super Bowl with the Rams because he lost the one with the Eagles? Bill Parcells won a Super Bowl, then appeared in another Super Bowl with a second team, then appeared in an AFC Championship with a third team. Mike Holmgren won a Super Bowl, went to another Super Bowl. Tony Dungy took the Bucs to an NFC Championship Game, then later won the Super Bowl with the Colts. Jon Gruden took his Raiders to an AFC Championship Game, then later won the Super Bowl with the Bucs. Tom Coughlin went to an AFC Championship Game with the Jaguars, later won the Super Bowl with the Giants.

We're talking about such a small sample size it might be folly to conclude anything from it. I know in some cases it definitely appears a guy just doesn't have it in him anymore. But in other cases it's like...I don't think Bill Parcells LOST the Super Bowl to the Packers because he'd already won two with the Giants. And the other thing is, you know, there were were a good three seasons of frustration between Parcells' 1986 Super Bowl and his 1990 Super Bowl. If this theory about coaches getting fat and happy and having less appetite for stress and hard work after winning a Super Bowl held a lot of water, you wouldn't necessarily see all these multiple Super Bowl winning coaches that won them with the same team. Belichick hasn't won a Super Bowl since 2004. Does anyone think New England should move on because "when has that ever worked"?

 

No Head Coach has won a Super Bowl 7 years after winning his last Super Bowl. Should the Patriots fire Bill Belichick?

 

Belichick did a lot better in his 2nd go around as head coach. You can't just totally judge someone by one chance.

 

Shula never won a Super Bowl with another team. Just Miami. He lost SB III with the Colts.

 

So you want to hire Cowher?

 

You are right, my bad.

So it has never worked.

 

Id like to see a few games this season before lynching our HC and Gm.

 

I think Cowher would want all control.

 

Oh this is an easy one

Dave Pornestach and

Jimmy Johnston

no seriously...........

Mike Martz and Buddy Ryan/Mike Ditka

 

Who cares. One season at a time.

 

1. Bill Cowher
2. Jeff Fisher
3. Jon Gruden
4. Mike Nolan
5. Rob Ryan

 

Rob Ryan would be fun

 

You mean he's one of the most respected members here...who just happens to have as much if not more a negative view of the team right about now?


Is it to much to ask that we even play ONE PRESEASON GAME....JUST ONE....before we start trying to figure out who is gonna be our next HC?

I mean....for all that this team has done to ruin a franchise.......what are you all gonna say if.....yikes....we actually do WELL THIS YEAR. Are you gonna say...well...darn...I was wrong in just about everything I said about the Miami Dolphins this season.....

 

Didn''t Mike Holmgren win a SB as an assistant with the 49ers?

If something did happen; I'd wagar Chilly would be tops on the list.

 

Yeah because there is more important things to figure out, like which quarterback are they gonna draft next year:knucks:

 

I was thinking that earlier too fin but it is a long day. A day in which we signed Taylor and Colombo. That was some serious stench.
I now believe Abbi is onto something.

 

Here's where we are now:






Here's where we need to be:




Any questions? :tongue2:






The only worrying I'm doing until then is.........

do I drink this one





or do I splurge for

 

What am I gonna say?

Same thing I say every season.

Next year we are gonna win the Super Bowl!!!!

 

I just want a coach who knows how to manage a clock, has the desire to do more than settle for field goals, and just doesn't look totally and utterly lost out there.

 

These children...

 

Andy Reid doesn't have GM powers. The Eagles used a bizarre GM by committee approach between GM-in-name-only Tom Heckert, Jr., team president Joe Banner, and VP of Player Personnel Howie Roseman. When Heckert departed for Cleveland last year, Roseman became the full GM, and he is now in the process of faxing photos of his middle finger to the other 31 teams.

Belichick, on the other hand, has not been a very good drafter without Scott Pioli around. Nick Caserio is sort of learning on the job, and one day he'll have most if not all of the authority Pioli used to have.

Citing Andy Reid and Bill Belichick as proof that coaches can handle personnel decisions is misinformed. Generally, coaches have a terrible track record as personnel executives. Case in point: the Bengals. The Bengals don't have a scouting department or a traditional GM. They have the coaches act as scouts during the offseason, because Mike Brown is cheap.

 

Maybe we'll break out in a chant of we want Cowher during the season.