Heath Evans slams Daboll hire

Really, bc:

was never a guy that I would have considered the brains of the operation"

Is the same way I think of Heath Evans.

Well hell, since Heath Evans says it, any chance they polled Henne's momma as well?

This is becoming sort of sad.

"slickj101 wrote:

Really, bc: Is the same way I think of Heath Evans.

A bit OT, but why do we as fans always go to this?

Like if a guy isn't a superstar, his opinion can't be taken seriously. What does skill level have to do with anything anyway?

If the opinion of a 10-year NFL veteran means nothing on the matter, what does that say about ours?

I hope he's wrong as much as the next Dolfan. But from a 10,000-foot view, whose opinion is more likely to be correct? The guy who spent 2 years with him, or some slug like me on an internet forum?

I'm not a fan of the Daboll hire, but Heath Evans' opinion has about as much value as the US dollar.

"Muck wrote:

A bit OT, but why do we as fans always go to this?

Like if a guy isn't a superstar, his opinion can't be taken seriously. What does skill level have to do with anything anyway?

If the opinion of a 10-year NFL veteran means nothing on the matter, what does that say about ours?

I hope he's wrong as much as the next Dolfan. But from a 10,000-foot view, whose opinion is more likely to be correct? The guy who spent 2 years with him, or some slug like me on an internet forum?

What bothers me about this Muck is not Heath Evans per se, it is this juvenile attempt to keep the disenchantment alive by the S Florida media.

Lebetard reading a email from Chad Henne's mother? Lavicka dredging up Heath Evans who knew Daboll 5 seasons ago?

At what point do they act like grownups?

Wouldn't it make more sense to bang the gong on Darren Rizzi whose unit performed as poorly as Bonamego's but apparently has been lost in the shuffle and retained by Sparano?

"padre31 wrote:

What bothers me about this Muck is not Heath Evans per se, it is this juvenile attempt to keep the disenchantment alive by the S Florida media.

Lebetard reading a email from Chad Henne's mother? Lavicka dredging up Heath Evans who knew Daboll 5 seasons ago?

At what point do they act like grownups?

Wouldn't it make more sense to bang the gong on Darren Rizzi whose unit performed as poorly as Bonamego's but apparently has been lost in the shuffle and retained by Sparano?

Evans is a local guy. He grew up a Dolphins fan in the area ESPN 760 serves (Wellington, WPB. I actually saw him play in high school at King's) and still lives there during the offseason. They're involved in the community and that's what he was promoting as I understand it. They didn't dredge up anything. He was asked a question and, as usual, shot straight. He was on the Jim Rome show not two weeks ago and gave a fantastic interview. So it's not like it's Joe Blow who had a cup of coffee in the league 15 years ago.

It's just like I always say (complain). Why do we get bent out of shape as if players come out and proclaim controversial things? The reporters ask them questions, and they answer them. Not the other way around. ;) We can not like what they say, but I don't subscribe to the automatic "he's an idiot" stuff.

LeBatard has douche like tendencies. I didn't hear him read the email, but I don't like it one bit.

And Evans could be wrong. I mean, could we get 'worse' than Dan Henning?

Probably not.

But the gains might not be all that great.

Solidify the QB situation and he'll become an improved coach immediately. Coach them up right and he's even better.

"Muck wrote:

After being cut midseason by Nick Saban, Evans and Daboll spent the rest of the '05 and '06 seasons together in New England.

http://www.espn760.com/blogs/dolphins.php?action=blog&post_id=2781

Ironically, Daboll has been lauded for his work with the receivers during his time with the Pats.

At any rate, this is an active player openly criticizing this coach. Evans, if you don't know, is a pretty straight shooter when asked a question. So it's no surprise to me that he would share this. And this is about as damning a criticism that a player can make against a coach.

I'm shocked. Not good.

Also, I can't say your post made me want to "pump my fist." More like it made me want to hang my head and cry.

I would rather just say thanks. But I guess fist pumps are what's on offer...

The thing is to me that it just looks like an attempt to posion the well before Daboll ever blows his whistle during a practice, he may be Henning Jr., he may not be, the slings and daggers are coming out a bit early for the man aren't they?

With Rizzi, his unit was demonstrably terrible, he was retained, and no one says a thing? My goodness it can be said for a fact the man did a poor job and yet the guy who has not done anything one way or another is the one already being hit up?

"Muck wrote:

A bit OT, but why do we as fans always go to this?

Like if a guy isn't a superstar, his opinion can't be taken seriously. What does skill level have to do with anything anyway?

If the opinion of a 10-year NFL veteran means nothing on the matter, what does that say about ours?

I hope he's wrong as much as the next Dolfan. But from a 10,000-foot view, whose opinion is more likely to be correct? The guy who spent 2 years with him, or some slug like me on an internet forum?

I'm not saying he's a scrub bc he's not, but why should anyone give a **** what Heath Evans thinks of our OC?

Evans could say he's the best OC ever and we're destined to win SBs with him and my reaction would still be :confused2:

"Muck wrote:

...Ironically, Daboll has been lauded for his work with the receivers during his time with the Pats...

As far as I'm concerned there's only one coach in NE worth having (as much as I hate the guy) everything else to come out of there has been (and will probably continue to be) rubbish. So far I've seen nothing to entice me to be in favour of this signing... I hope I'm wrong but I'm expecting another bumpy year.

You kind of get the impression that Ross is sabotaging this team in favour of the team he originally intended to purchase... :lol: (no wait, that's not funny – that's sad :()

That was over 4 years ago since they been on the same team. Alot might of changed since then. Pennington seems to hold Daboll in high regards and likes the hire. Brady Quinn said the QB's were always well prepared on gamedays under him.

Did Heath Evans even work directly with Heath Evans? Is this residual discontent for Daboll not incorporating Evans into whatever gameplanning he may have done with the Patriots? Is this another attempt by an ex-player to sabotage/demoralize his former team? It's not like we've never seen that before.

These are all questions that occur to me.

I hope to be proven wrong, but I think Daboll will be an unmitigated disaster. He might just have us clamoring for GASP Henning by midseason.

"DrAstroZoom wrote:

Did Heath Evans even work directly with Heath Evans? Is this residual discontent for Daboll not incorporating Evans into whatever gameplanning he may have done with the Patriots? Is this another attempt by an ex-player to sabotage/demoralize his former team? It's not like we've never seen that before.

These are all questions that occur to me.

This is exactly what this is. Evans is just taking another pot shot at us just like he did when we fired his ass.

Heath Evans can go f@ck himself.

"DrAstroZoom wrote:

Did Heath Evans even work directly with Heath Evans? Is this residual discontent for Daboll not incorporating Evans into whatever gameplanning he may have done with the Patriots? Is this another attempt by an ex-player to sabotage/demoralize his former team? It's not like we've never seen that before.

These are all questions that occur to me.

Dear lord! Your signature scares the hell out of me! I will give that hire some time but, that just makes me shiver when I see it.

"Muck" wrote:

A bit OT, but why do we as fans always go to this?

Like if a guy isn't a superstar, his opinion can't be taken seriously. What does skill level have to do with anything anyway?

If the opinion of a 10-year NFL veteran means nothing on the matter, what does that say about ours?

I hope he's wrong as much as the next Dolfan. But from a 10,000-foot view, whose opinion is more likely to be correct? The guy who spent 2 years with him, or some slug like me on an internet forum?

Would you take a students opinion of a teacher seriously? As a player, there could be plenty of reason why Evans may have a personal bias against any coach.

Evans' opinion is about as impartial as Chad Pennington's.

Heath Evans?

Really?

Are you sure it wasn't Dale Evans?

"smahtaz wrote:

Heath Evans?

Really?

Are you sure it wasn't Dale Evans?

I'm glad somebody pulled that Trigger.

Hah chachacha .... :groucho:

This just reeks of some type of personal grudge. Mangini was also with the Pats during that time and thought highly enough of Daboll that he hired him as his OC.

I think the most important question one should ask himself when pondering the Evans statement is "What did YOU personally learn in the past 5 years?" The dude probably started coaching as an unpaid intern charting tendancies from film. Why stop at opinions from 5 years ago? Let's get the opinion of the guy that smoked a doobie with him in high school....

I'm not judging Daboll until I see how his first few games here go.

Heath Evans is a local guy and he's on the radio quite a bit...... he's not just some bonehead player