Heath Evans thinks EVERY one of our draft picks will fail! What!?!

This is probably closer to truth than it is hyperbole, though.

 

His rational is based upon a weight number, and I think the ignorance that he will be playing defensive end all three downs.

 

If he does get 18 sacks, theres a great chance that he will be helping us then hurting us.

 

Regardless, him stating on the record that a rookie could get 18 sacks and be a reach is about the dumbest thing ive ever heard from a media hack.

 

So he's admitted he's never watched Dion Jordan on film?

 

But that's implying that his opinion is worth something. Let the peons throw their marshmallows.

Personally, I don't believe that he believes the majority of the things he says. Whoever called him the Skip Bayless of the NFLN, is spot on. Contrary to popular belief, it's not these media personalities' jobs to educate their viewers with good analysis. It's their job to drive ratings, and it's far easier to be a clown than it is to be intelligent.

 

Both of those things can be true, IMO.

 

Grew up in South Florida, played little league same place I did at Lake Lytal near PBIA....went to Kings Academy......played for Miami Dolphins......I really don't understand his blind hate for this franchise. It's odd.

 

Well, he surely didnt talk about the versatility of the player, and that he might be an outside linebacker, so 18 sacks for a versatile hybrid payer that lines up at multiple positions for the defense would be special..I mean if we know anything about Dion is that he can do it all moving forward and backwards, none of that reflected in his commentary about 18 sacks and the insinuation that he can't play the run..

His comments were so bias, and he was so angry, that he couldn't think about what the player really is.

His commentary about the topic was completely incomplete..he deserves to get ridiculed.

 

heath evans never fails to disappoint, the guy is the master of talking out his ***. he puts ace ventura to shame.

 

How's that if we're taking into account this specific players skillset.?

 

It's just a semantics argument. I'd rather not get into it and take away from actual football discussion.

 

my other question is... would be..... is jordan not capable of gainkng weight? or.is he going to be at 240 for the rest.of his life?

 

In other words he didn't agree with you so he must be basing his opinion purely on a weight listing.

 

Decent STer.

 

IDK if there has ever been a player who has got 18+ sacks in a season, and not been an effective player on their respected team, Why would Jordan be the first?

 

He makes comments to get people upset and talking about him. That is how he stays relevant and on TV. Based on all the comments on this thread, he seems to be a success at getting people to pay attention to him and write about his thoughtless comments. Perhaps if we just ignore him, he will just go away for good.

 

Of course he does, his frame will accept weight with grace and balance, if the hack had any real evaluation talent he would of had many caveats in his bias commentary.

 

Thing is CK, he is just pick and choosing what to rip about Jordan. This time he says he might be a good rusher and get 18 sacks, but he'll be a liability on run cover. However, i also remember him saying in the NFLN that Jordan would not be a good rusher either because, among other nonsense, he did not have a big butt (truly).

So yeah, don't take what he's saying as being blown or being misunderstood. He is being a full-fledged-grade-A dou.chebag towards the Dolphins.

 

He's the one that said it four times as the reason why he couldn't match up with the patriots third down package, he gave no other reason why he couldn't play the run..to insinuate because a man is a certain weight he automatically can't play the run is ignorant no?...see JT

 

This guy is a real tool. If all we get is 18 sacks from Jordan, it's pretty likely that at least 2-3 of them are against NE... Not too many gms, including Evans beloved BB would consider that a boon, not a bust...

We know ever since the fins let him walk in fa, he's disliked us, but that's a bit over the top. Well, it takes all kinds, but the wheels would really have to fall off the wagon for every pick to bust out as he predicts...

 

If Dion Jordan got 18 sacks....

First of all..he is a lock for Defensive Rookie of the Year.

He will in all likelihood be a finalist for DPOY.

He will be a lock Pro Bowler.

SO yeah..I could see how that would be a failure.

Heath Evans is an idiot, and I purposely ignored watching or Listening to the video because of it.

 

I always thought it was funny when they pair him up with Jamie Dukes.
That combo can kill more brain cells than alcohol.

 

He's a pric because he thinks that because he played pro ball that he has the superior opinion on all topics football related..

Evaluation is a different game..the guy is a hack making money by acting like a tv bully.

 

That is highly unrealistic. It is something that I would expect someone who knows little about football to say.

Even if Heath Evans isn't stupid, I still think what he said was extremely dumb.

 

I guess i'd be a bit more receptive to his criticism if he didn't bash each and every move that we made. His credibility goes out the window if one of our moves turns out to be a good one... He admitted he's been wrong before, has he ever been right ?? hehehe

 

Indeed, like Von Miller and Aldon Smith were known for run stuffing prowess and just happened to be good passrushers in a passing league.

"..yeah that Aldon Smith had a dozen sacks, but look at his play against the run..!"



Suspect he thinks Jordan will play traditional 4-3 strongside DE, reality is it will be more of a Tiger or Jack role w/he and Wake flopping when their hand is on the ground, or from a standing position from the Will etc.

 

The good ol' "He's an undersized pass rush specialist so he has to be a liability in run support" argument. And by Evan's definition of liability, Miami projects to give up 8+ YPC when Jordan is on the field

It gets lamer every passing year.

There's 10 other guys on the field, and Miami is stout enough against the run and has the other components well put together on Defense to compensate for one man's supposed inability in that aspect of the game

 

BTW, do people(non-Dolphin fans) still think because Wake is such a good pass rusher that he's a liability in run support?

I'd bet majority think yes.

 

Well I'll just say I listened to the interview, and I have three observations:

1. Heath Evans is an intelligent man with focused, extremely well-researched opinions, a few of which I happen to disagree with.

2. Jesse Agler was clearly the only guy there that could keep up with Evans on a point for point basis, and every time I listen to Jesse get more respect for what he brings to the table.

3. There's a lot of butthurt going on in Dolfandom about this interview. But 95% of the reactions are not very intelligent.

I had a rather sizable review of the interview written out, and I've chosen to delete it.

 

rather 95% what he said was not very intelligent, he basically bashed every move we made....free agency or draft....what a douche and the reasoning behind it was stupid as well

 

Same thing was said about a 3rd round draft pick a few years back...how'd that work out ??? Don't know that Jordan will match that guy's career but assuming that he can't cover the run and therefore will be a liability anytime he's on the field is as dumb as some of the critics of that other guy was....

 

Suddenly, all the pitchfork-carrying, torch-raised fans make a slow ominous head-turn toward CK like a group of zombies smelling fresh blood. Run Chris! RUN!!!

 

You're getting way too caught up in the number itself and not allowing yourself to appreciate the intelligent point he was trying to make.

Yes if Dion Jordan got 18 sacks he would be hailed as a hero by most of the NFL. Just as Mark Anderson was hailed as a hero and the defensive rookie of the year when he got 12 sacks.

Heath Evans sin was that he picked the wrong number out of thin air to make a point. Hyperbole? God, who uses THAT? His sin wasn't that he was making a poor point. Everyone else's sin in totally ignoring his point and regarding him as an idiot and/or guy that doesn't know what he's talking about is a much GREATER sin than his picking the wrong number out of thin air. A number which, if you pay attention, is clearly NOT a number that he thinks Dion Jordan can/will actually get to.

A lot of SMART people are coming off a hell of a lot less intelligent to me right now than Heath Evans and I think it's because they're getting too emotionally wrapped up in this. I disagree with the man. Hell I've been saying forever that people that think Dion Jordan can't defend the run probably haven't watched the guy on film. But the fact of the matter is you could run down point for point, observation after observation, and his entire interview was well-researched, well thought out, and intelligent.

 

LOL I feel like I'm in Resident Evil 4.

 

Didn't think it was that bad.

IIRC, Evans usually says he thinks Tannehill will be a great QB, so I'm not sure how much he's biased, or just a case of differing opinion.

 

A bit like the nonsense about the offensive line, add Clabo and Louis, draft Thomas, however since we took Jordan over Johnson with the thinking Martin will develop our OL will be terrible?

2 yrs from now when the league realizes "gosh Rb's matter, and a power running game can wear down these light defenders meant to stop the passing game" they may have a point.

Right now imo they are stuck in the sort of Lawerance Taylor whipping the poor LT and chasing plays down the line or crushing helpless Qb's thinking, offenses have changed so much since then it's like a Maginot Line/fight the last war approach.

They are behind the curve, imo they appear to speak from vacuums of prior experience not foresight.

 

He's not biased, IMO. If anything I think he wants to like the Dolphins and what they're doing because he's a local.

He made some points I disagree with. I'd have loved this to turn into a one-on-one interview with Evans and Agler because Agler was definitely coming back at him with good points and good follow up questions. And Evans was coming back at Agler with great rebuttals to the follow up questions.

A really good interview is being flushed down the toilet right now because of some butthurt, IMO.